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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 02:47:23
July 18 2011 02:46 GMT
#21561
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 18 2011 02:48 GMT
#21562
lol, nice passive aggressive jab at whoever, 2d ;p
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 02:55:29
July 18 2011 02:50 GMT
#21563
CLG members in a tourny setting are usually very blunt. Like they usually do just say "we played like shit" and don't simply blame one another if they lost. (they don't practice so, obviously they're going to play bad) And they often simply play for fun. Even at dreamhack they just told each other "play what you want" and just wanted to have fun with it, because they have trouble vsing practiced teams. And when they aren't having fun while playing they don't see the point in playing, so might as well fuck around when you know you lost lol.

Wow two down lol, beat me to it.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 02:54:20
July 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#21564
On July 18 2011 11:50 BlackPaladin wrote:
CLG members in a tourny setting are usually very blunt. Like they usually do just say "we played like shit" and don't simply blame one another if they lost. And they often simply play for fun. Even at dreamhack they just told each other "play what you want" and just wanted to have fun with it, because when they aren't having fun while playing they don't see the point in playing.


This mindset works and is the best until winning is your job, but by then trying to be the best should be challenging and fun.
FADC
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 18 2011 02:57 GMT
#21565
On July 18 2011 11:54 rwrzr wrote:
This mindset works and is the best until winning is your job, but by then trying to be the best should be challenging and fun.


But then again, CLG was only the best when all other teams sucked cock lol. Now there are actual decent teams who practice together. They're simply not the best anymore and they know it.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
July 18 2011 02:58 GMT
#21566
Can this match we watched anywhere online? Sounds pretty decent. ^_^
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 18 2011 03:00 GMT
#21567
On July 18 2011 11:58 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Can this match we watched anywhere online? Sounds pretty decent. ^_^


Check Colbycheeze's youtube account in a few days.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
July 18 2011 03:02 GMT
#21568
loss forgiven lol
finally -_-
game took ilke 10 minutes to start up too
:)
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#21569
NI promoted to TL mod? if so, congrats
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 18 2011 03:05 GMT
#21570
On July 18 2011 12:03 broz0rs wrote:
NI promoted to TL mod? if so, congrats



oh yeah look at that, hes a banling
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 18 2011 03:06 GMT
#21571
Sigh I get GP in ranked, go 7-0-10 and then the whole fucking game DCs.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
July 18 2011 03:07 GMT
#21572
On July 18 2011 11:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.


But they got second place, didn't they? And I missed the last two games, but I saw them beat TSM pretty convincingly in the first game they played against them, so... it definitely doesn't seem to me like they think they can't win against a decent team, because they've shown they can.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:08:48
July 18 2011 03:07 GMT
#21573
On July 18 2011 12:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:58 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Can this match we watched anywhere online? Sounds pretty decent. ^_^


Check Colbycheeze's youtube account in a few days.



He was uploading simultaneously while casting so they should be up within a day.

http://www.youtube.com/user/colbycheeze
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:18:11
July 18 2011 03:07 GMT
#21574
On July 18 2011 11:50 BlackPaladin wrote:
CLG members in a tourny setting are usually very blunt. Like they usually do just say "we played like shit" and don't simply blame one another if they lost. (they don't practice so, obviously they're going to play bad) And they often simply play for fun. Even at dreamhack they just told each other "play what you want" and just wanted to have fun with it, because they have trouble vsing practiced teams. And when they aren't having fun while playing they don't see the point in playing, so might as well fuck around when you know you lost lol.

Wow two down lol, beat me to it.


CLG actually practiced a lot before DreamHack. As in, they were scrimming EU teams every other day or so. Probably not as much as real teams but they still scrimmed quite a bit. The problem with them getting practice is that none of the US teams want to scrim with them. For reasons varying from not wanting CLG to be good again and also because of how CLG refused to scrim with anyone when they were on top for so long (out of fear of people figuring out how to "beat CLG").

I really don't know what goes on with them at tourneys though. They run the craziest and sometimes dumbest shit. Maybe they just don't care or maybe they honestly think the decisions they're making are sound and good. At this point in the game they make a fuck ton of money from coaching, streaming, and the various tournies they win without having to devote as much time as any of the other teams so it wouldn't surprise me if they're fine with how they are right now.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:25:47
July 18 2011 03:25 GMT
#21575
I used to get extremely tryhard normals with all high rated players, then I tanked my normal elo intensive duo queueing for a week with an unskilled friend, now all the players are absolutely terrible. Games are still three times as skilled as 1400 ranked wtf
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:41:59
July 18 2011 03:40 GMT
#21576
On July 18 2011 11:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.


I don't think it's that they're not that good every time, it's more like that without Hotshot on his main two they're just not good enough to win games because he goes from better than everyone on TSM to below average tourney play. If he got Nidalee/Cho'Gath every time I don't think there's a team that can beat CLG.


Edit: Though the one promising thing for CLG right now is that they seem to have better chemistry past few days. Saint's actually getting along with Hotshot and not just outright trolling him. They just need to find some way to make him grind up a third champ.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:45:25
July 18 2011 03:44 GMT
#21577
http://pastebin.com/RKPJdmuk

[02:53:08] ([2337]w): doesnt matter
[02:53:27] ([2337]w): its still off by a lot
[02:53:40] (NESL|Jaden): Exactly.
[02:53:42] (NESL|Jaden): It doesnt matter.
[02:54:06] ([2337]w): nope, u being not in the mood doesnt matter

More drama!

Also, Chrispy/Shake Duo queue on Saintvicious' stream.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:55:55
July 18 2011 03:55 GMT
#21578
On July 18 2011 12:44 Niton wrote:
http://pastebin.com/RKPJdmuk

Show nested quote +
[02:53:08] ([2337]w): doesnt matter
[02:53:27] ([2337]w): its still off by a lot
[02:53:40] (NESL|Jaden): Exactly.
[02:53:42] (NESL|Jaden): It doesnt matter.
[02:54:06] ([2337]w): nope, u being not in the mood doesnt matter

More drama!

Also, Chrispy/Shake Duo queue on Saintvicious' stream.


Jaden and the other NESL admins have proven themselves unprofessional on many separate occasions (and endorsed Grackis for commentator....sigh).
Full post here:

http://www.clgaming.net/board/board39-reign-of-gaming/board40-blogs/board55-clgaming/2596-nesl-fiasco/#post20301

Also about TwoDown and BlackPaladin's feelings about TL LoL....I wish I could somehow be good enough at this game to justify organizing an official team....hurts me so bad to know we have the talent but not the drive.
Edit: Grats Neo!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
July 18 2011 04:00 GMT
#21579
Yeah, it's pretty well established that NESL is run by a bunch of full-retards. Arbitrarily changing rules and falsely enforcing them with great bias is only the latest in a long string of offenses.
twitch.tv/cratonz
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 18 2011 04:07 GMT
#21580
On July 18 2011 12:44 Niton wrote:
http://pastebin.com/RKPJdmuk

Show nested quote +
[02:53:08] ([2337]w): doesnt matter
[02:53:27] ([2337]w): its still off by a lot
[02:53:40] (NESL|Jaden): Exactly.
[02:53:42] (NESL|Jaden): It doesnt matter.
[02:54:06] ([2337]w): nope, u being not in the mood doesnt matter

More drama!

Also, Chrispy/Shake Duo queue on Saintvicious' stream.

Haha. Competetive LoL being driven by Marcou and NESL admins, #1.

Also, how bout dat Ez.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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