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1 month in Poland as CZ / HU / RU game tester :)

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kimchiterran
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland81 Posts
July 03 2008 13:54 GMT
#1
Hello all,

This is a call to all Hungarian, Russian and Czech members in the forums!

Some of you know me as (ex)MYM.Raven, I used to play pretty actively till the end of 2007.
Today, I'm working in the game industry as a Localization Coordinator for Cenega Service Team (http://www.cenega.com), which means I'm managing preparation of the various language versions of the new game for Europe market.

So what is it all about? We just received new project to prepare localized version of some top-tier game (FPS team shooter) into several languages, including Hungarian, Russian and Czech. The problem is that we need 1 Linguistic Tester for each of these languages to test the game, here in Poland (Warsaw, capital), on-site, ready to test our game for 1 month.

I think this is a nice opportunity to try it out in the game industry (also you can try the game before its official release) and have a trip to Poland this summer. And having QA Tester experience, I think people from our gaming community fit really well to this sort of job, that's why I'm posting it here.

Some details about the contract:
- we offer 1-month contract, starting next week (if tester is able come, he can start the job on Monday)
- we pay all travel costs to Warsaw and back to the home
- we pay all city communication costs
- we arrange and pay the quarters (most likely one room for Russian, Hungarian and Czech testers)
- we offer a salary of 1000€ for 1 month of job (9.00 AM to 5.00 PM, Monday-Friday, in Cenega Localization Centre, in our QA Lab - I'm working here too)

Don't hesitate to contact me, if you would like to know more about this job

Contact details:
mail: mp at cenega dot com or raven at cenega dot com
MSN: qiangduo47 at hotmail dot com
or via PM here at TL.net

To the admins: I hope this sort of announcement is not really against the rules - if it is, please let me know / close it

All the best,
Maciej "Raven" Polak
Localization Coordinator
Cenega Service Team
kimchi makes perfect~
Sanity.
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States704 Posts
July 03 2008 13:58 GMT
#2
wow i wish i lived in one of those countries, i would totally do it. good luck raven.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 03 2008 13:59 GMT
#3
wow that sounds nice
fuck me and my american status!
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
July 03 2008 14:00 GMT
#4
damn that sounds like a great opportunity, too bad I don't speak either of these languages
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
July 03 2008 14:10 GMT
#5
No need for an Australian translation? gtfo :@

jk good luck and well done.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 03 2008 14:13 GMT
#6
Awesome opportunity to get a feel for gaming industry and talk to pple in the know.

^^
kimchiterran
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland81 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-03 14:18:52
July 03 2008 14:18 GMT
#7
On July 03 2008 23:10 Spenguin wrote:
No need for an Australian translation? gtfo :@

jk good luck and well done.



Hehe, no need at the moment, but actually we are developing very, very fast lately so if there is native English (UK or US) / French / Italian / German / Spanish (Europe continental Spanish) interested in getting pernament job here in Warsaw Poland in our Localization Centre, feel free to contact me as well :-)

Ah, and I've just got the information that most likely this CZ / RU / HU testing project will delay a little bit, so it won't start this Monday (still it gonna be next week most likely).

Cheers,
Raven
kimchi makes perfect~
sephiroth85
Profile Joined January 2007
New Zealand87 Posts
July 03 2008 14:52 GMT
#8
mym.raven gosu
What is difference between ignorance and apathy?? i dont know and i dont care..
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
July 03 2008 14:54 GMT
#9
good luck dude

ps: i LOVED your tvz.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
July 03 2008 14:56 GMT
#10
You are really good at starcraft.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 03 2008 15:09 GMT
#11
Good luck getting invitations and visa (and financial documents) and a plane ticket in a week.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Holylight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Korea (South)460 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-03 15:21:16
July 03 2008 15:21 GMT
#12
On July 04 2008 00:09 BluzMan wrote:
Good luck getting invitations and visa (and financial documents) and a plane ticket in a week.


only russians need Visa lol

the rest of europe can travel around without visas. seriously
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
July 03 2008 15:35 GMT
#13
On July 03 2008 23:18 kimchiterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2008 23:10 Spenguin wrote:
No need for an Australian translation? gtfo :@

jk good luck and well done.



Hehe, no need at the moment, but actually we are developing very, very fast lately so if there is native English (UK or US) / French / Italian / German / Spanish (Europe continental Spanish) interested in getting pernament job here in Warsaw Poland in our Localization Centre, feel free to contact me as well :-)

Ah, and I've just got the information that most likely this CZ / RU / HU testing project will delay a little bit, so it won't start this Monday (still it gonna be next week most likely).

Cheers,
Raven


booo is it europe-only? or can i at least try even if im mexican?
Teamliquidian townie
kimchiterran
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland81 Posts
July 03 2008 17:20 GMT
#14
On July 04 2008 00:35 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2008 23:18 kimchiterran wrote:
On July 03 2008 23:10 Spenguin wrote:
No need for an Australian translation? gtfo :@

jk good luck and well done.



Hehe, no need at the moment, but actually we are developing very, very fast lately so if there is native English (UK or US) / French / Italian / German / Spanish (Europe continental Spanish) interested in getting pernament job here in Warsaw Poland in our Localization Centre, feel free to contact me as well :-)

Ah, and I've just got the information that most likely this CZ / RU / HU testing project will delay a little bit, so it won't start this Monday (still it gonna be next week most likely).

Cheers,
Raven


booo is it europe-only? or can i at least try even if im mexican?


Well, it is about job in Europe - Poland - Warsaw only (Cenega office is here) but for Mexico as well as the other Latin America countries I think there could be a problem with all the differences between the Latin Spanish and continental (European) Spanish. Since we are working on the Spanish games for European game market, it is extremely important to correct all the linguistic bugs according to continental Spanish grammar/vocabulary. Assuming, that you've never been in Spain, I think that would be an issue for you, right?

Cheers,
Raven
kimchi makes perfect~
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
July 03 2008 17:37 GMT
#15
On July 03 2008 23:18 kimchiterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2008 23:10 Spenguin wrote:
No need for an Australian translation? gtfo :@

jk good luck and well done.



Hehe, no need at the moment, but actually we are developing very, very fast lately so if there is native English (UK or US) / French / Italian / German / Spanish (Europe continental Spanish) interested in getting pernament job here in Warsaw Poland in our Localization Centre, feel free to contact me as well :-)

Ah, and I've just got the information that most likely this CZ / RU / HU testing project will delay a little bit, so it won't start this Monday (still it gonna be next week most likely).

Cheers,
Raven


F the job...

more sc plz

MYM.Raven the movie # 2
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 03 2008 17:48 GMT
#16
Hi raven
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
July 03 2008 18:08 GMT
#17
I'd do it for a month or so (native German speaker) but for a permanent job: No chance
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
July 03 2008 18:15 GMT
#18
Hehe, I'm Russian, live in Hungary, speak both fluently, and wouldn't even need a visa to go to Poland.

But the suggested salary would actually make me lose a lot more by abandoning my current job, so I can't go. Would it have been exactly 1 year ago, I would have jumped at the opportunity in a heartbeat, but alas... :/
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-03 18:16:50
July 03 2008 18:16 GMT
#19
What is exactly the job ?

Play the game ? I dont understand why you need different native speakers. ( to make some translations corrections ? )

Sorry for my noobish question.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
kimchiterran
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland81 Posts
July 03 2008 18:40 GMT
#20
On July 04 2008 03:16 Boblion wrote:
What is exactly the job ?

Play the game ? I dont understand why you need different native speakers. ( to make some translations corrections ? )

Sorry for my noobish question.



No problem mate, let me explain it to you:

In QA (for Quality Assurance) Lab, there is a lot of different tests to do, depending on the game and stage of the project:

1. Functionality tests - these are done in the very early stage of the game development, to find all the errors in overall functionality of the game. Testers have to follow and repeat a lot of bug-cases (scenarios) in order to find bugs crashing the game, engine, graphics, mechanics, etc.

2. Focus tests - this stage is to balance the game difficulty wise, so you know, game is playable (not too hard in the beginning / on the easy levels, not too easy at the other hand, etc.)

3. Balance tests - this is the main reason for Blizzard to delay our beloved title release for another year So yes, basically balance tests are for multiplayer mode of the game, to make it as balanced as it is possible.

4. Linguistic tests - for each language version of the game, there are always linguistic tests to look for following bugs: grammar, mispelling, too long strings, font problems, subtitles/audio consistency, wrong context, etc. etc. So this is all about the text/audio content in game (as well as in manual, readme, additional tools attached for the game, etc.) - developer wants to check it before the release.

For the job I mentioned, it would be no.4 (linguistic tests), that's why we require the native language skills from our testers for each language.

Few words about the testers workflow: For each sort of the tests, job is divided into testing rounds. Each testing round is like playing the whole game (current build version of the game), checking all the content or repeating all the scenarios and report them (with bugtracker client) in order to prepare so called Bug Report. Then developer is trying to fix all the bugs and prepares new build (version) of the game. Then another testing round comes, this time you have to reproduce all the old bugs and see if they are fixed and look for the new bugs eventually. Finally, after several testing rounds (usually 3), so-called Master Candidate comes and testers have to check if it is ready for release (if there is still some major bug to fix). This is where QA Lab's job finishes in the development / localization project.

I hope it was any helpful and now you have an idea how this job looks like :-)

Cheers,
Raven
kimchi makes perfect~
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-03 18:54:37
July 03 2008 18:50 GMT
#21
Thanks for the info. I'm less ignorant now, although i still lack of knowlege in game testing ^^.
Nevertheless i think that the wage is a bit low for Western Europeans.

btw you had a cool terran .
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 03 2008 18:51 GMT
#22
wish you still played sc, I liked your style
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
July 03 2008 18:55 GMT
#23
Ahhhhhh, so this is what you told us about on Saturday
GL with it man and best of luck with what's to come ;p
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
July 03 2008 19:06 GMT
#24
keke nice opportunity
And all is illuminated.
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
July 03 2008 19:13 GMT
#25
On July 04 2008 03:50 Boblion wrote:
Thanks for the info. I'm less ignorant now, although i still lack of knowlege in game testing ^^.
Nevertheless i think that the wage is a bit low for Western Europeans.

btw you had a cool terran .


oh so the pay is low?

i was just about to ask that.
kimchiterran
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland81 Posts
July 03 2008 19:50 GMT
#26
On July 04 2008 04:13 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2008 03:50 Boblion wrote:
Thanks for the info. I'm less ignorant now, although i still lack of knowlege in game testing ^^.
Nevertheless i think that the wage is a bit low for Western Europeans.

btw you had a cool terran .


oh so the pay is low?

i was just about to ask that.


Well, the wage in QA always depends on native language. 1000€ is not really small wage in Poland - Junior Polish linguistic testers receive like 400-500€ / month I think average in the market... And keeping in mind that you will have your trip, communication and quarters paid, this is not small money :-) At the other hand, the EFIGS (English, French, Italian, German, Spanish) natives have higher salaries for sure.

Cheers,
Raven

P.S. Thanks all you guys for memory about my Terran :-) Who knows, maybe kimchi power awakes one more time before SC2 release ^^.
kimchi makes perfect~
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