Great train of thought. However, I've been doing so many practice LSATs that when I saw this paragraph:
"The human IQ scale is based on an average of 100 by definition. Also, by definition, out of 10 people, the smartest will have IQ 115. Out of 100, the smartest will have IQ 130. out of 1000, the smartest will have IQ 145, and so on. That means that for monkeys (avg IQ = 60), out of 10 monkeys, one will have IQ 75. Out of 100, one will have IQ 90. out of 1000, one will have IQ roughly equal to 100."

I immediately thought of:

1. The author assumes which one of the following in order to establish the conclusion of his argument?

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Monkeys exhibit similar patterns of IQ variance as that of humans.

2. The flawed reasoning displayed in the authors argument is that:

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the author takes for granted that monkeys exhibit similar patterns of IQ variance as that of humans

or

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the author fails to establish what is true by definition is in fact true in practicality

hehe, not trying to make fun of what you wrote or anything but it just popped into my mind and I had to type it down..

Interesting read.

5HITCOMBO

Japan2239 Posts

May 07 2007 20:06 GMT

#43

The OP's main goal is to breed monkeys to do tasks that illegal immigrants already do for less than minimum wage?

polarwolf

924 Posts

May 07 2007 20:30 GMT

#44

haha, ok, monkey have an average IQ of 60, so if you take so and so many monkeys, you will find one with IQ 100, right?

can we proceed with this? How about ants? if the average IQ of and ant is 6, so if you take enough ants, (there are lots of them) you will also find an ant with an IQ of 100 right?

What about a bacterium? if an bacterium has an average IQ of 0.1 just take enough...

IQ is a subject for Human beings, you cannot say a monkey has an IQ at all because he is an animal, animals are controlled by instincts, their brain doesn't work our way, so this whole idea is BS imo. Animals are not mentaly retarded humans.

Maenander

Germany4927 Posts

May 07 2007 20:40 GMT

#45

On May 08 2007 05:30 polarwolf wrote:
haha, ok, monkey have an average IQ of 60, so if you take so and so many monkeys, you will find one with IQ 100, right?

can we proceed with this? How about ants? if the average IQ of and ant is 6, so if you take enough ants, (there are lots of them) you will also find an ant with an IQ of 100 right?

What about a bacterium? if an bacterium has an average IQ of 0.1 just take enough...

IQ is a subject for Human beings, you cannot say a monkey has an IQ at all because he is an animal, animals are controlled by instincts, their brain doesn't work our way, so this whole idea is BS imo. Animals are not mentaly retarded humans.

I agree to a certain point. But you draw a line between us humans and animals which does not exist.

In my opinion a lot of our intellectual capacity is preprinted in animals and their DNA. (especially in those more closely related to us) Animals just can´t use it to the same extent.

DrainX

Sweden3187 Posts

May 07 2007 21:03 GMT

#46

It has not only got to do with pure intelligence. There is an actual difference in the way our brains work and the way chimps brains work. They dont have the same kind of speech-centre in their brain, one that is hardcoded into ours and almost non existant in theirs. Even if you got a chimp to 100 IQ that doesnt mean you would even be able to comunicate with it about with more complex things than "ook ook oov banana oov macro".

Maenander

Germany4927 Posts

May 07 2007 21:31 GMT

#47

True. Intelligence as we define it is a conglomeration of many different things. Language plays a major role in it and is a catalyst for other abilities. A lot of animals can count for example, even "primitive" ones, but they can´t enhance that ability like we can by communicating.

Tarte

Canada933 Posts

May 07 2007 22:54 GMT

#48

This logic doesn't make ANY sense. if this was true, then some monkeys and humans would have some UBER big IQ, following your rules of +10 per 100 peaples.

KaasZerg

Netherlands927 Posts

May 08 2007 02:57 GMT

#49

It is not the brainmass that makes the human brain different. The brainstrucure is different. Our brains are smaller than those of the homo Neanderthalis. They got extinct we moved on. Somewhere in evolution our brain took a turn beyond braingrowth. Something else then just size distinguises our brain from animals.

Tusk

Canada427 Posts

May 08 2007 03:05 GMT

#50

On May 07 2007 23:18 XCetron wrote:
Why would there be a monkey with IQ of 75 out of 10? Just because human has the same ratio doesnt mean they do, I mean if you follow by that logic there must be a monkey with IQ 120+ out there all these years and monkeys havent even passed the stone age equivalent of human yet.

their society works for them. they dont need to be humans junior.

[angst]chraej

1445 Posts

May 08 2007 03:14 GMT

#51

great, once you raise the perfect monkey gene to breed a high enough iq then the monkies (as im sure has been said before this) will rise up and have a monkey's rights movement...then what? then you get home from work everyday to what? an unkempt house and un cleaned laundry! then you'll have to make your own food and pick up the kids since the monkey still hasnt gotten home from its job, or even if it has, maybe all it wants to do is "relax" ...lazy apes.

anyway...i'd rather rely on computers.

rpf

United States2705 Posts

May 08 2007 03:20 GMT

#52

Link me to the study. I wonder if it's even valid or reliable.

Locke.

Israel562 Posts

May 08 2007 03:21 GMT

#53

On May 08 2007 05:06 5HITCOMBO wrote:
The OP's main goal is to breed monkeys to do tasks that illegal immigrants already do for less than minimum wage?

Practical attitude lol

gameguard

Korea (South)2132 Posts

May 08 2007 03:22 GMT

#54

god the ignorance in OP is beyond belief.

DwmC_Foefen

Belgium2186 Posts

May 08 2007 03:27 GMT

#55

Lol it doesnt work that way ^^ btw DONT mess with nature

gameguard

Korea (South)2132 Posts

May 08 2007 03:31 GMT

#56

Perhaps we should come up with a SQ (sexy quota), then apply it to monkeys. After some generations we would get uber sexy monkey pornstars.

MyLovelyLurker

France756 Posts

May 08 2007 03:38 GMT

#57

On May 08 2007 12:31 gameguard wrote:
Perhaps we should come up with a SQ (sexy quota), then apply it to monkeys. After some generations we would get uber sexy monkey pornstars.

double u tee eff man, really.

@OP : get yourself some education in probability 101, you retard. And while you're at it, please link the source to your IQ study.

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

May 08 2007 03:42 GMT

#58

lol mani, i was going to post "omg monkey revolution"!!

sith

United States2474 Posts

May 08 2007 05:28 GMT

#59

First of all...I just want to say this is the most fucking awesome thread I have seen in the last month.

Now....assuming this all works out (which it won't probably), why don't we breed something other than monkeys. I mean who the fuck wants a monkey friend? You want him to eat all your bananas and scratch his butt? Go ahead! Me, I'm gonna be breeding dogs/wolves and eagles with super intelligence. Think about it...a pack of wolves and eagles to scout for them flying around the wilderness, me as the beast king.

Hell, you breed monkeys too, and we can have a war! That would be AWESOME. I could breed some penguins too, and they could be my heavy soldiers, ready to take hits for the fast wolves.
I will have the battle plans drawn up in the second hold on....

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

May 08 2007 07:43 GMT

#60

On May 07 2007 23:25 MaZza[KIS] wrote:

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pwned.. I was first LOL! My life < yours.

was that supposed to be a less than sign?