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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-07 14:42:51
May 07 2007 14:40 GMT
#21
115+ = 13.6% of population
130+ = 2.1% of population
145+ = 0.1% of population

the test is supposed to be standardized that way at least
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
May 07 2007 14:43 GMT
#22
On May 07 2007 23:36 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 23:33 Aphelion02 wrote:
Dude. Skip the monkey business and just start using humans. Take a bunch of high IQ humans in the 150 range, and start breeding. When monkeys get to that level they will have the same sentience and understanding anyways, so the morality is the same. Humans are just a lot easier to train, breed, communicate with, and the process would be faster as the base IQ is so high.

And for those that don't make the cut we can just use them for food, like Jonathan Swift suggested. Just make sure that experimental humans are marked early on with birth, such as a number tattoo or a Star of David.


more ethical issues involved with humans -_-. if i had to breed humans, i'd breed for attractiveness and cup size, and the INVERSE of intelligence.

oh, and wtf. how come the human race has been breeding for hot women for thousands of years, and we still got fucking trolls wandering around!?


I contend the morality issues involved are the same once you get a Monkey with an IQ or 120 and are making him do human work. Exactly the same.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 07 2007 14:44 GMT
#23
I have a really racist joke here but I won't use it.


..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
May 07 2007 14:44 GMT
#24
On May 07 2007 23:36 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
oh, and wtf. how come the human race has been breeding for hot women for thousands of years, and we still got fucking trolls wandering around!?


I forget my source, but I remember coming across something somewhat reputable speculating (with some backing) that humans these days are way more attractive than in prehistoric times based on some semi-objective measures of attractiveness like waist-hip ratio and symmetry. It may have been either The Blank Slate or How The Mind Works by Steven Pinker.

Plus, attractiveness is mostly relative. There will always be people well below average. If you're surrounded by hotties all the time your standards will go up. Or some of my friends in engineering talk about this effect in reverse...

(Yes, I know you're mostly joking)
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 07 2007 14:48 GMT
#25
Hmm. A plan to create massive horde of super intelligent apes breeding as fast as possible then work them as slaves. I don't see how that plan could possibly fail.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 07 2007 14:49 GMT
#26
On May 07 2007 23:48 Luddite wrote:
Hmm. A plan to create massive horde of super intelligent apes breeding as fast as possible then work them as slaves. I don't see how that plan could possibly fail.


I think the animal beats us on that since now we have to build places just to take care of them. Even fighting for their rights and stuff.
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
May 07 2007 14:53 GMT
#27
[image loading]

Poll: What would I prefer as a pet
(Vote): 200 generations bred super hot chick to be my pillow/bed/@!#$/slave
(Vote): 200 generations bred 160 IQ monkey to do my homework/job/brain/slave
(Vote): inhumane. it's inhuman. I dream of matha stewart

Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 07 2007 14:55 GMT
#28
There should be an option for a 200 generations bred super martha stewart to make my house incredibly clean and and my food unbelievably delicious.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
May 07 2007 14:57 GMT
#29
I dunno about the others here, but when I say it's a bad idea to do this, I don't mean that it couldn't turn out in something really good, such as a hot chick or really smart monkey. What I'm talking about is the other 99.99999% probability that something will go horribly wrong along the way to make you dread the day you came up with the idea.
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 07 2007 14:58 GMT
#30
can we breed progamers too?

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IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
May 07 2007 15:02 GMT
#31
On May 07 2007 23:40 azndsh wrote:
115+ = 13.6% of population
130+ = 2.1% of population
145+ = 0.1% of population

the test is supposed to be standardized that way at least


here's a nice table i found.

[image loading]


standard deviation means that

68% of people fall within the mean +/- one SD
96% of people fall within the mean +/- two SD
99.8% of people fall within the mean +/- three SD

This means that you were in Italy, 4% of people will have IQ more than 160 or less than 160, which means that 2% will have IQ more than 160, or 1 out of 50. That means that out of your standard quiz section in college, there is probably either someone with IQ 160, or someone with 40. cool!
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
May 07 2007 15:08 GMT
#32
This thread is not so much a discussion on animal intelligence as it is exposing the consequences of human intelligence coupled with animal morality.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-07 15:10:36
May 07 2007 15:08 GMT
#33
On May 08 2007 00:02 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2007 23:40 azndsh wrote:
115+ = 13.6% of population
130+ = 2.1% of population
145+ = 0.1% of population

the test is supposed to be standardized that way at least


here's a nice table i found.

[image loading]


standard deviation means that

68% of people fall within the mean +/- one SD
96% of people fall within the mean +/- two SD
99.8% of people fall within the mean +/- three SD

This means that you were in Italy, 4% of people will have IQ more than 160 or less than 160, which means that 2% will have IQ more than 160, or 1 out of 50. That means that out of your standard quiz section in college, there is probably either someone with IQ 160, or someone with 40. cool!



lol if you have an IQ of 40 you're struggling with just staying alive (not an exaggeration)


edit: and this idea is stupid
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 07 2007 15:09 GMT
#34
IQ tests probably aren't standardized enough or inherently accurate in the first place to make any of those claims. Studies use all sorts of different scalings, some of which aren't normalized.
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
May 07 2007 15:20 GMT
#35
also, not that this really matters, but I think the ACTUAL average IQ. is lower then 100 if you include africa and most other less developed countries. I believe the average is in the 80s,not sure though:o
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
May 07 2007 15:21 GMT
#36
On May 07 2007 23:36 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote:
oh, and wtf. how come the human race has been breeding for hot women for thousands of years, and we still got fucking trolls wandering around!?


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mistapooh
Profile Joined March 2007
United States376 Posts
May 07 2007 15:22 GMT
#37
Maybe potential for higher intelligence, but intelligence is a combination of biological factors and environmental. So twin monkeys in separate cages, one with toys and one without, the one with toys should be the smarter one. Eh, it's late, just trying to make a point.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
May 07 2007 15:31 GMT
#38
i believe that humans are genetically engineered;
you can olny raise an ape iq artificially, it will only work for it allone.
when the apes dies so does your hopes for iq inheritage; people are born with a posibility of an iq range from 40 to 160+, the monkeys do not.
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defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
May 07 2007 15:42 GMT
#39
I think it would be easier, more ethical, and far more lucrative to create a Jurassic Park-style Starcraft theme park with genetically engineered Zerg. Ride the friendly ultralisk! Pet the (defanged) defiler! Feed retarded experimental monkeys to the cute little zerglings!

Then again, Ma Jae Yoon would use them to take over the world. Maybe not such a good idea.
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KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
May 07 2007 19:40 GMT
#40
Wow wow wow. According to your reasoning of a species with average IQ of 10, 1 out of 10 has an IQ simular to -5 or 25. See where you went wrong. And IQ is a arbitairy statistic construct. You cannot extrapolate it is in no way linear as a measure in phisics.
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