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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 12 2013 18:10 GMT
#7781
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 12 2013 18:11 GMT
#7782
On July 13 2013 03:09 Kaitlin wrote:
They didn't mention it much during the course of the trial, but his usage of deadly force is justified to stop a (2nd degree?) felony against him ? Would beating the shit out of him meet this standard ?

Felony assault I'd say.

Also it could be justified as heat of passion with reasonable circumstances.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 12 2013 18:11 GMT
#7783
On July 13 2013 03:04 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:03 nihlon wrote:
I heard one of the jury was doing the Macarena, I wonder what it means.

a spanish dance?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macarena_(song) ?

Just a joke for my generation. Ignore me.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 12 2013 18:11 GMT
#7784
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

Jury instructions, closing statements are done.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 18:13:12
July 12 2013 18:12 GMT
#7785
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic closing statement. They actually brought a piece of concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 12 2013 18:13 GMT
#7786
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 18:14:30
July 12 2013 18:14 GMT
#7787
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!

haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 12 2013 18:14 GMT
#7788
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!

Tried to disprove the notion that Trayvon was unarmed.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
July 12 2013 18:15 GMT
#7789
Listening to the instructions for manslaughter, I don't know how the Prosecution has provided a persuasive story that zimmerman went out to create a situation that would kill Martin. Gonna go back and listen to the defense closing.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 12 2013 18:17 GMT
#7790
On July 13 2013 03:14 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!

haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD

that sounds incredibly stupid (he was armed with concrete), but depends on how presented. was it an effective argument?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 18:20:22
July 12 2013 18:19 GMT
#7791
On July 13 2013 03:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:14 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!

haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD

that sounds incredibly stupid (he was armed with concrete), but depends on how presented. was it an effective argument?

I would say so. It does sound stupid but he made it seem pretty reasonable just from his approach. I would recommend you watch the defense closing statement. O'Mara was spot on for most of it and he even swore to mimic the prosecution to make it obvious to the jury what they are doing. I'm sure you know but keep in mind that the prosecutor keeps painting Trayvon as unarmed with a bag of skittles and a can of arizona. He was attacking that point.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
July 12 2013 18:29 GMT
#7792
Scary moment; when the judge said "if you found Zimmer guilty of murder" Zimmerman closed his eyes and let out a small sigh/breath. He looks very indifferent but his Heart must be beating like a Hummingbirds...
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 12 2013 18:29 GMT
#7793
I'm a noob at the american legal system. What if the jurors don't reach an agreement?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 12 2013 18:30 GMT
#7794
On July 13 2013 03:29 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Scary moment; when the judge said "if you found Zimmer guilty of murder" Zimmerman closed his eyes and let out a small sigh/breath. He looks very indifferent but his Heart must be beating like a Hummingbirds...

if he's guilt, looking at life in prison or 25 years or something as I recall(for 2nd degree). I think I read 20 years for manslaughter. That's a long long time.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 12 2013 18:31 GMT
#7795
On July 13 2013 03:29 Roxor9999 wrote:
I'm a noob at the american legal system. What if the jurors don't reach an agreement?

Then it's considered a hung jury and there may be a retrial.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 12 2013 18:31 GMT
#7796
On July 13 2013 03:30 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:29 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Scary moment; when the judge said "if you found Zimmer guilty of murder" Zimmerman closed his eyes and let out a small sigh/breath. He looks very indifferent but his Heart must be beating like a Hummingbirds...

if he's guilt, looking at life in prison or 25 years or something as I recall(for 2nd degree). I think I read 20 years for manslaughter. That's a long long time.

He wouldn't last that long anyway. He killed a black "kid".
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
July 12 2013 18:32 GMT
#7797
Any idea on what the timespan is of the Jury's final decision?
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 18:33:25
July 12 2013 18:33 GMT
#7798
^ no one knows, could be tonight, next week etc...

On July 13 2013 03:31 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:30 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:29 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Scary moment; when the judge said "if you found Zimmer guilty of murder" Zimmerman closed his eyes and let out a small sigh/breath. He looks very indifferent but his Heart must be beating like a Hummingbirds...

if he's guilt, looking at life in prison or 25 years or something as I recall(for 2nd degree). I think I read 20 years for manslaughter. That's a long long time.

He wouldn't last that long anyway. He killed a black "kid".

ya, he definitely wouldn't last. I figure they'll give him protection or something if that's the case.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 12 2013 18:33 GMT
#7799
On July 13 2013 03:19 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:14 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!

haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD

that sounds incredibly stupid (he was armed with concrete), but depends on how presented. was it an effective argument?

I would say so. It does sound stupid but he made it seem pretty reasonable just from his approach. I would recommend you watch the defense closing statement. O'Mara was spot on for most of it and he even swore to mimic the prosecution to make it obvious to the jury what they are doing. I'm sure you know but keep in mind that the prosecutor keeps painting Trayvon as unarmed with a bag of skittles and a can of arizona. He was attacking that point.

yep. ill probably watch it tonight unless we have a jury verdict before then. closing arguments so long though....
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#7800
On July 13 2013 03:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:19 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:14 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks.

now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new.

interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch!

haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD

that sounds incredibly stupid (he was armed with concrete), but depends on how presented. was it an effective argument?

I would say so. It does sound stupid but he made it seem pretty reasonable just from his approach. I would recommend you watch the defense closing statement. O'Mara was spot on for most of it and he even swore to mimic the prosecution to make it obvious to the jury what they are doing. I'm sure you know but keep in mind that the prosecutor keeps painting Trayvon as unarmed with a bag of skittles and a can of arizona. He was attacking that point.

yep. ill probably watch it tonight unless we have a jury verdict before then. closing arguments so long though....

ya but just do work as you watch it. It's only 3 hours
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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