EPTShooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 390
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dAPhREAk
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LegalLord
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On July 13 2013 03:09 Kaitlin wrote: They didn't mention it much during the course of the trial, but his usage of deadly force is justified to stop a (2nd degree?) felony against him ? Would beating the shit out of him meet this standard ? Felony assault I'd say. Also it could be justified as heat of passion with reasonable circumstances. | ||
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nihlon
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LegalLord
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On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote: whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks. Jury instructions, closing statements are done. | ||
BigFan
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On July 13 2013 03:10 dAPhREAk wrote: whats the current status? havent been able to watch this morning. thanks. now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic closing statement. They actually brought a piece of concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:12 BigFan wrote: now jury instructions. Defense had a fantastic defense closing statement. They actually brought a concrete into the courtroom lol. O'Mara also mentioned the raising of the voice of the prosecution, using emotions etc... Prosecution went the emotional room, use the heart, common sense, etc... nothing new. interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch! | ||
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BigFan
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On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote: interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch! haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:13 dAPhREAk wrote: interesting. what did he do with the concrete? bash West's head against it--see what happens when you make stupid jokes, bitch! Tried to disprove the notion that Trayvon was unarmed. | ||
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Sabu113
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:14 BigFan wrote: haha would've been interesting but he placed it on the ground then remarked how saying that Trayvon is unarmed with the concrete sidewalk is disgusting while looking at it XD that sounds incredibly stupid (he was armed with concrete), but depends on how presented. was it an effective argument? | ||
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BigFan
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On July 13 2013 03:17 dAPhREAk wrote: that sounds incredibly stupid (he was armed with concrete), but depends on how presented. was it an effective argument? I would say so. It does sound stupid but he made it seem pretty reasonable just from his approach. I would recommend you watch the defense closing statement. O'Mara was spot on for most of it and he even swore to mimic the prosecution to make it obvious to the jury what they are doing. I'm sure you know but keep in mind that the prosecutor keeps painting Trayvon as unarmed with a bag of skittles and a can of arizona. He was attacking that point. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
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Roxor9999
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BigFan
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On July 13 2013 03:29 TheRealArtemis wrote: Scary moment; when the judge said "if you found Zimmer guilty of murder" Zimmerman closed his eyes and let out a small sigh/breath. He looks very indifferent but his Heart must be beating like a Hummingbirds... if he's guilt, looking at life in prison or 25 years or something as I recall(for 2nd degree). I think I read 20 years for manslaughter. That's a long long time. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:29 Roxor9999 wrote: I'm a noob at the american legal system. What if the jurors don't reach an agreement? Then it's considered a hung jury and there may be a retrial. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:30 BigFan wrote: if he's guilt, looking at life in prison or 25 years or something as I recall(for 2nd degree). I think I read 20 years for manslaughter. That's a long long time. He wouldn't last that long anyway. He killed a black "kid". | ||
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Thalandros
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BigFan
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On July 13 2013 03:31 Dosey wrote: He wouldn't last that long anyway. He killed a black "kid". ya, he definitely wouldn't last. I figure they'll give him protection or something if that's the case. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:19 BigFan wrote: I would say so. It does sound stupid but he made it seem pretty reasonable just from his approach. I would recommend you watch the defense closing statement. O'Mara was spot on for most of it and he even swore to mimic the prosecution to make it obvious to the jury what they are doing. I'm sure you know but keep in mind that the prosecutor keeps painting Trayvon as unarmed with a bag of skittles and a can of arizona. He was attacking that point. yep. ill probably watch it tonight unless we have a jury verdict before then. closing arguments so long though.... | ||
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BigFan
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On July 13 2013 03:33 dAPhREAk wrote: yep. ill probably watch it tonight unless we have a jury verdict before then. closing arguments so long though.... ya but just do work as you watch it. It's only 3 hours | ||
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