EPTBritish national executed in China - Page 3
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On December 31 2009 15:29 Biochemist wrote: If someone brought 4kg heroin into the USA nobody would talk about how many Americans he was killing, but people keep saying that about this incident. How does 4030g of heroin kill 26,800 chinese people? How is bringing heroin into the country directly impacting the viability of chinese citizens? This seems to be the most relevant and contestable crux of argument that this thread can offer. Is the act of transporting this amount of these drugs likely to inflict peril on thousands of lives? Few on TL would be qualified to speak authoritatively on the issues this issue involves (and it involves more than medicine), but here are some simple reasons that Asian governments may hold to: (These are reasons why they may feel that trafficking is a grave offense.) Heroin on Chinese soil is more likely to be sold in China than elsewhere, since trafficking it elsewhere entails added risks, costs, and forgoes profits in China. Thus bringing heroin into China increases the likelihood of said heroin being sold. I assume China is a profitable market, not some sort of juncture where people take drugs then take them elsewhere. Heroin has high potential for addiction. Heroin is expensive. Addicted customers are far more likely to continue purchasing regardless of their financial situation. Families whose finances are imperiled by inextricable drug costs may become unable to feed themselves, and thus become inviable. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On December 31 2009 15:48 iloahz wrote: that's kinda like saying a nuclear bomb is enough to kill millions, or zero, depending on where throw the bomb. How so? | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On December 31 2009 14:49 Whiplash wrote: It's China, what do you expect? They don't operate like the rest of the world and they can get away with it so they do it. Fairly ironic for an American to say in a capital punishment thread  | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On December 31 2009 15:59 EchOne wrote: This seems to be the most relevant and contestable crux of argument that this thread can offer. Is the act of transporting this amount of these drugs likely to inflict peril on thousands of lives? Few on TL would be qualified to speak authoritatively on the issues this issue involves (and it involves more than medicine), but here are some simple reasons that Asian governments may hold to: (These are reasons why they may feel that trafficking is a grave offense.) Heroin on Chinese soil is more likely to be sold in China than elsewhere, since trafficking it elsewhere entails added risks, costs, and forgoes profits in China. Thus bringing heroin into China increases the likelihood of said heroin being sold. I assume China is a profitable market, not some sort of juncture where people take drugs then take them elsewhere. Heroin has high potential for addiction. Heroin is expensive. Addicted customers are far more likely to continue purchasing regardless of their financial situation. Families whose finances are imperiled by inextricable drug costs may become unable to feed themselves, and thus become inviable. While heroin is addictive, and we all know that the chinese are sensitive about opiates, the fact is that the chinese officials refused to even further examine the guy's case, and that's what the whole human rights hubbub is about. | ||
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Sad[Panda]
United States458 Posts
EDIT: who lets someone who had mental problems goto fucking china ALONE >.> | ||
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keepITup
251 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7475 Posts
I mean its like ... I jack off with a sock puppet everyday and then go murder the cast of sesame street ..... brb | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On December 31 2009 17:49 AttackZerg wrote: Sorry but as an avid green drug user I think anybody with anything white deserves the most severe punishments govts are willing to dish out. I mean its like ... I jack off with a sock puppet everyday and then go murder the cast of sesame street ..... brb Wat Being a "green drug user" just means you're full of hypocrisy and use idiotic double standards when allowing which chemicals to effect your brain. Obviously nobody controls your choices on what you choose to put inside you, but just saying you only use "natural" drugs makes about as much sense to me as someone saying that they only drink alcohol, and then claiming that it isn't a drug either. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On December 31 2009 15:08 ProbeSaturation wrote: I'd make a discriminating comment about China and chinese people, you know....one that would really stand out and make peoples' blood boil over. but i won't because.....i'd probably get banned hahahaha because making racist comments against black people is wrong hahaha i found this really funny for some reason and also found myself agreeing with it | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 31 2009 14:47 Superiorwolf wrote: well if something like the british and their opium could do what it did to china every country has to make stringent laws - get the fuck out or you'll die anything less and an invasion of drugs could result if the circumstances became conducive enough I'm so glad your parents probably beat you. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On December 31 2009 17:49 AttackZerg wrote: Sorry but as an avid green drug user I think anybody with anything white deserves the most severe punishments govts are willing to dish out. I mean its like ... I jack off with a sock puppet everyday and then go murder the cast of sesame street ..... brb i think this statement is retarded. you aren't on some superior moral pedestal because you only do "green" drugs. sure cocaine and heroin are far worse than weed, but users of them do drugs for the same reason you do (it makes them feel good). ugh this is the type of mentality which keeps support for the "war on drugs" up | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
ANOTHER China thread? ANOTHER COMMUNIST CHINA has NO HUMAN RIGHTS thread? CHINA RED COMMUNIST MAO ZE DONG WAS AN IDIOT ALL CHINESE ARE RUDE AND EAT DOG MEAT NO ONE IN CHINA CAN VOTE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH NEWS IS CENSORED BOOKS ARE BANNED SECRET NUKES SELLING WEAPONS TO SUDAN LEAD PAINT CHILD LABOUR SWEAT SHOPS LAZER BEAMS FLASHING LIGHTS FAKE ROLEXES ANIMAL CRUELTY BIGGEST POLLUTION CAUSE LONG WORKING HOURS MORE CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS THAN THE UNITED STATES pm me if I forgot anything. | ||
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ProbeSaturation
Canada292 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1694 Posts
Yeahh smuggling drugs is such a mental problem  | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On December 31 2009 18:33 pyrogenetix wrote: What's This? ANOTHER China thread? ANOTHER COMMUNIST CHINA has NO HUMAN RIGHTS thread? CHINA RED COMMUNIST MAO ZE DONG WAS AN IDIOT ALL CHINESE ARE RUDE AND EAT DOG MEAT NO ONE IN CHINA CAN VOTE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH NEWS IS CENSORED BOOKS ARE BANNED SECRET NUKES SELLING WEAPONS TO SUDAN LEAD PAINT CHILD LABOUR SWEAT SHOPS LAZER BEAMS FLASHING LIGHTS FAKE ROLEXES ANIMAL CRUELTY BIGGEST POLLUTION CAUSE LONG WORKING HOURS MORE CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS THAN THE UNITED STATES pm me if I forgot anything. wow that was like a really decent list | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
DIE DRUG TRAFFICKERS! | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On December 31 2009 18:33 pyrogenetix wrote: What's This? ANOTHER China thread? ANOTHER COMMUNIST CHINA has NO HUMAN RIGHTS thread? CHINA RED COMMUNIST MAO ZE DONG WAS AN IDIOT ALL CHINESE ARE RUDE AND EAT DOG MEAT NO ONE IN CHINA CAN VOTE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH NEWS IS CENSORED BOOKS ARE BANNED SECRET NUKES SELLING WEAPONS TO SUDAN LEAD PAINT CHILD LABOUR SWEAT SHOPS LAZER BEAMS FLASHING LIGHTS FAKE ROLEXES ANIMAL CRUELTY BIGGEST POLLUTION CAUSE LONG WORKING HOURS MORE CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS THAN THE UNITED STATES pm me if I forgot anything. You forget that we also eat cat meat~! | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
Really??? THIS HAS NEVER EVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND CLEARLY DESERVES IT'S OWN THREAD. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
It took ~3 pages for the thread to degenerate into brainless idiots praising China's totalitarianism. Sigh. | ||
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