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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
March 16 2009 08:03 GMT
#41
If anyone trys to take my giants away from me ill kill u
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 16 2009 08:09 GMT
#42
Oh sup intothewannab
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
March 17 2009 19:53 GMT
#43
so i guess we did not get enough people eh?
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 20:12:32
March 17 2009 20:12 GMT
#44
On March 18 2009 04:53 InToTheWannaB wrote:
so i guess we did not get enough people eh?


Yeahhh, We may have to abandon it... I expected there to be more Tecmofans on here, but it appears not! I suppose I'll give it another day and then call it a no-go if nobody else seems interested. Sorry guys!
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 17 2009 21:18 GMT
#45
Well... so all of this isn't for nothing... and since some of us definitely want to play some Tecmo, I think we should just make this a tournament format instead of a full season. At least now with so few people, we are pretty much guaranteed our first or 2nd choice in teams! I'll edit this post in a minute with an idea of how the tournament could work out (feel free to change it up)
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
March 17 2009 21:26 GMT
#46
On March 18 2009 06:18 EscPlan9 wrote:
Well... so all of this isn't for nothing... and since some of us definitely want to play some Tecmo, I think we should just make this a tournament format instead of a full season. At least now with so few people, we are pretty much guaranteed our first or 2nd choice in teams! I'll edit this post in a minute with an idea of how the tournament could work out (feel free to change it up)


I'd be down. =)
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 21:48:57
March 17 2009 21:44 GMT
#47
So far I organized everyone's selections into S/A/B/C classes.

Underlined means it's their first choice for team (at least listed first in OP)

[S CLASS]
Mikilatov (Oilers)
Boesthius (49ers)
IntoTheWannaB (Giants)

[A CLASS]
Mikilatov (Bengals, Rams)
Enrique (Chiefs)
Boesthius (Dolphins)
Khaymus (Vikings)
IntoTheWannaBe (Dolphins)

[B CLASS]
EscPlan9 (Broncos, Cowboys, Chargers)
Enrique (Chargers, Jets)
Khaymus (Jets, Falcons)
IntoTheWannaB (Jets)

[C Class]
Boesthius (Browns)

Now I'm considering the different ways the tournament could play out considering we are playing with a mix of "classes" and OP rules suggested S and A would have tougher games. My ideas so far for balancing:

a) Everyone chooses 1 team for each class, then play S vs S, A vs A, etc
b) Everyone plays in the same class (it seems most people picked A or B teams)
c) S/A classes continue to have their handicaps, and we play as usual

As for the tournament format... I still have to think about that. There's a LOT of possibilities - a few I've thought of at the moment:

a) Use a losers/winners bracket
b) Everyone plays each other once, then the two with the best records play in a superbowl (BO3?)
c) Hmm.. was going to try standard tournament structure, but that doesn't work right with 6 people. It's be #1 vs #2, #3 vs #4, #5 vs #6, but then there would be 3 winners in the end. There's a few ways to work it out...

Just brainstorming... suggestions welcome.

I think it'd be best if we use Tournament Style B (all play each other once, the two with the best records go to "superbowl" in a BO3). For balancing, all 3 of those sound good to me, so I'll leave that up to everyone to discuss.
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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 22:28:10
March 17 2009 22:26 GMT
#48
If everyone has their first choice in teams, we use the handicapping system for S/A class teams, and everyone plays each other once, this could work:

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Every week you play one person and winner posts the screenshot here. If you miss a week, you can make up for it by playing two games the following week.

As for who plays who when, that will be easy to do and doesn't really matter. As long as everyone plays each other once (5 games), the regular season is all set.

For the "Superbowl" Bo3, the games can be recorded using NesTopia's movie recording feature, and later convert it to AVI/whatever. Since there will be two games played, and each game takes about 20 minutes, this would be about a 40 minute video. Someone not in the Superbowl could receive the video and add some commentary to it for all of us to enjoy (dunno how well it would work out, but I'd be happy to give it a shot). The video could then be split and uploaded on Youtube as necessary, and could also be uploaded to MediaFire or whatever file-uploading site.

Or we could just screenshot the two games...
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
March 18 2009 00:46 GMT
#49
soulds like a plan to me. Just give me and day/time and im there
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 18 2009 11:18 GMT
#50
Assuming all of us are still in it... here's a "random" schedule after assigning everyone a number (no significance, just made it easier to create the schedule)

1=Escplan9
2=Mikilatov
3=Intothewannab
4=Khaymus
5=Boesthius
6=Enrique

WEEK ONE
1 v 2 (Esc/Miki)
3 v 4 (Into/Khay)
5 v 6 (Boes/Enriq)

WEEK TWO
1 v 5
2 v 3
4 v 6

WEEK THREE
1 v 6
2 v 4
3 v 5

WEEK FOUR
1 v 3
2 v 6
4 v 5

WEEK FIVE
1 v 4
2 v 5
3 v 6

I haven't decided the date it starts, but it could start as early as next week. I'll be PM'n the five of you to confirm you are aware of the changes, know your schedule, as well as allow each of you to provide feedback/suggestions before the rules and format are finalized.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 12:29:47
March 18 2009 11:37 GMT
#51
Now that I've PM'd all five of you... and assuming no changes need to be made...

Rules
The rules of the game, including the handicaps for the S class and A class teams still remain the same as the OP. However, there are two additions:

1) No nose-tackle dives (NTDs)
An NTD is when you choose a linemen on defense, and shortly after the ball is snapped, you attempt to tackle the ball carrier with your linemen resulting in a nearly unavoidable sack. This is abuse and will disqualify you from the game if you do it. Never choose a linemen and you will never run into this problem.

2) The beginning coin flip
If you allow the coin flip to take place and your opponent wins the toss, you cannot hit B to skip it. If you do, the match must be reset. However, before anyone wins the toss, skipping the coin flip is acceptable. Always skip the toss and you won't run into this problem.

Format
As shown in the schedule, everyone plays each other once. At the end of the 5th week, the two players with the best record advance into the finals.

Finals
The finals will be a best of 3.

Teams
EscPlan9: DEN (B class)
Mikilatov: CIN (A class)
IntoTheWannaB: NYG (S class)
Khaymus: NYJ (B class)
Boesthius: SF (S class)
Enrique: SD (B class)

Misc
To ensure we don't run into compatibility issues, download the latest version of NesTopia (1.40) here: http://nestopia.sourceforge.net/

Inside NesTopia, make sure you have the input setup for BOTH Pad 1 and Pad 2. You obviously will not always be first player in these matches. You can have both of them set to the exact same buttons without a problem.

We all need to be using the same version of TSB. To make this simple, I have uploaded the version I've been using and will PM all of you the link after you respond to the last PM I sent (I am not permitted to link to ROMs directly on this forum). Extract the file into your usual rom directory.

Netplay
For those unfamiliar with NesTopia's Netplay, I will give a brief tutorial on how to use it:

1) In the menubar, select Netplay -> Connect
2) On the right-hand side, browse to the TL_TSB.NES file you have in your rom directory.
3) Click on Launch. A list of servers will come up with various statistics.

4) Near the bottom of the window, there is a prompt that says Username. Enter your TL name, or something similar if that is taken.

5) Choose a server where there's minimal lag, and ample open slots. You and your opponent must use the same server. Confirm it with him through PM/IM/MSN/IRC/etc.

6) After you are both on the same server (and you both see each other in the room) one of you needs to create the game and the other joins it.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
iSCOUT4u
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 11:44:57
March 18 2009 11:44 GMT
#52
nvm
<3 R1CH <3 TL Just ordered a TL shirt and can't wait :)
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 18 2009 12:15 GMT
#53
? Would you like to join Brad?
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
iSCOUT4u
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 12:42:53
March 18 2009 12:41 GMT
#54
i have never played but i like old school games...id prolly just get smashed lol. Although ive played madden since it came out til about 2005...so im sure i could pick it up.
<3 R1CH <3 TL Just ordered a TL shirt and can't wait :)
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
March 18 2009 17:55 GMT
#55
On March 18 2009 21:41 brad3104 wrote:
i have never played but i like old school games...id prolly just get smashed lol. Although ive played madden since it came out til about 2005...so im sure i could pick it up.

ya it a two button game lol. Spam a spam b thats it.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 20:16:00
March 18 2009 19:46 GMT
#56
Confirmed players
InToTheWannaB
Mikilatov

The rest of you... (wombo combo!!) where you at where you at
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 20:22:37
March 18 2009 20:11 GMT
#57
I'm in. However the 'balancing' kind of fails a bit with this new format. The only balancing rules which still apply are side choice and playbook customization. The guys with the 49'ers and Giants are probably going to dominate.

I think we'd be best off eliminating either S/C classes, or B/C Classes, and then only using the two middle classes, or the two upper classes. This way, the higher of the two classes could have no playbook customization, and the lower of the two could have playbook customization available. There would be a much smaller gap inbetween top and lower teams as well, and make it a lot more fair overall.

This would mean that the following players would have to change teams:

Using Only A/B Classes
IntoTheWannaB: NYG (S class)
Boesthius: SF (S class)

OR

Using Only S/A Classes
EscPlan9: DEN (B class)
Khaymus: NYJ (B class)
Enrique: SD (B class)
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 18 2009 20:23 GMT
#58
Good point. It's been a while since I played this competitively so I don't remember how large the gap is between S and B class. I neglected to consider that not everyone here is experienced enough to know how to shut down certain playbooks as well as use the better playbooks to choose from yourself, so you're right, the balancing wouldn't be enough as is.

I like the idea of only using S/A classes - it'll make the games faster paced and allow the less experienced players to not have to concern themselves with only having a couple star players.

I have to take care of some errands now, but I'll try to update this later with the proposed updates.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
March 18 2009 20:26 GMT
#59
The gap between S and B class is MASSIVE. I'll wait for your proposed update, and if it's all good, I'll post it up in the OP.

Who knows, maybe if we get this short season rolling, people will become more interested as they see this thread around for so long, and we can shoot for 14 participants next season. =)
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 22:53:28
March 18 2009 22:21 GMT
#60
I mean, I understand that the gap between S and B is significant, but I made the (poor) assumption that the S teams playbooks are pretty weak, which will make their offense significantly weaker, and also when you choose one of the better playbooks, your offense will then be about on par with them. I honestly believe having a good playbook is the single most important factor to having a good offense in TSB (there are other factors of course, just not as significant). The problem is that lesser experienced players likely aren't familiar with the best playbooks nor how to stop some of the weaker playbooks.

I haven't received a response from Khaymus or Enrique yet since sending the PMs earlier today, but I will notify them about the changes and have them choose a new S or A class team.

edit: nvm, Khaymus and Enrique already have teams they selected within the A class. I will change my team to CHI (S class)

edit2:

Who knows, maybe if we get this short season rolling, people will become more interested as they see this thread around for so long, and we can shoot for 14 participants next season. =)

I hope so!
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