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On February 25 2009 05:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2009 05:45 Mista wrote:
Berbatov too slow ?Have you actually seen how he holds the ball ? He has great technical abilities and it suits him perfectly in continental games.Games are played slower unlike EPL where it's all about speed. He hasn't done very well in holding the balls so far. This is a box to box game, Berbatov can't just stay in the box and get balls feeded to him.
Yeah Berbatov wasn't much of a goal threat. They just used him to hold the ball up and tie up defenders.
Man.U were set up to hold on to the ball as much as possible. I don't think I saw a single long ball or pass played behind the defence. They played tight and tried to make sure the game wasn't stretched. I think Ferguson was making sure Inter couldn't have possession much to avoid a long spell of play in the United half.
Mourinho said himself United would set up differently and they definitely did. Last time United came to the San Siro they lost. In that game they tried to play their fluid attacking style, but they just got dominated in midfield and couldn't get the ball to the forwards. Sir Alex obviously decided he wanted to avoid that and play a possesion game relying on his midfielders to produce some magic for a goal. When you have players like Ronaldo and Giggs you can do that sort of thing.... and it almost worked.
But United have to take some blame for the 0-0. Even as the game went on Ferguson was very reluctant to let it get too open. He didn't bring on Rooney til very late in the game, whilst Mourinho on the other hand went 4-3-3 to try to get some end to end stuff going on.
This is the problem with CL football, it does encourage defensive play and that's something Ferguson has clearly learned over the years.
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poor Sporting. 5-0 rape by Bayern
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chelsea vs juventus what an awful game, so boring. I like Amauri though, he's a little old but I wonder why premiership teams didn't jump on him last summer.
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On February 25 2009 17:29 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2009 05:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:On February 25 2009 05:45 Mista wrote:
Berbatov too slow ?Have you actually seen how he holds the ball ? He has great technical abilities and it suits him perfectly in continental games.Games are played slower unlike EPL where it's all about speed. He hasn't done very well in holding the balls so far. This is a box to box game, Berbatov can't just stay in the box and get balls feeded to him. Yeah Berbatov wasn't much of a goal threat. They just used him to hold the ball up and tie up defenders. Man.U were set up to hold on to the ball as much as possible. I don't think I saw a single long ball or pass played behind the defence. They played tight and tried to make sure the game wasn't stretched. I think Ferguson was making sure Inter couldn't have possession much to avoid a long spell of play in the United half. Mourinho said himself United would set up differently and they definitely did. Last time United came to the San Siro they lost. In that game they tried to play their fluid attacking style, but they just got dominated in midfield and couldn't get the ball to the forwards. Sir Alex obviously decided he wanted to avoid that and play a possesion game relying on his midfielders to produce some magic for a goal. When you have players like Ronaldo and Giggs you can do that sort of thing.... and it almost worked. But United have to take some blame for the 0-0. Even as the game went on Ferguson was very reluctant to let it get too open. He didn't bring on Rooney til very late in the game, whilst Mourinho on the other hand went 4-3-3 to try to get some end to end stuff going on. This is the problem with CL football, it does encourage defensive play and that's something Ferguson has clearly learned over the years.
I don't know, Milan's midfield is a lot better than Inter's especially Inter without Vieira. Cambiasso looked non existent last night. That was an overly conservative decision on Ferguson's part imo.
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wtf are you talking about? Cambiasso was one of the least bad players of Inter last night, I would actually say he was fairly decent.
On other news, Madrid sucks and Liverpool is the most boring team in the fucking universe.
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Well he's supposed to be a holding midfielder right, it looked like there was no one in Inter's central midfield and United could just get the ball from their half to inter's half without any problems through the middle or from the wings.
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I think you need to re-watch the game then.
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dude Cambiasso was their best player aside from the GK 
I'd call Liverpool's performance methodical and disciplined  Madrid are dirty diving whores.
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yes, I think we all know that Liverpool is boring by now, but as long as they keep getting result in CL I guess it doesn't matter. My only prediction going bad at the moment, and I hope RM will do a lot better 2nd leg.
This is also a reason why I watched chelsea-juve but it turned out to be rediculously awful, luckily the place I went had all four matches on in different rooms.
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Liverpool is so annoying to watch. They almost always win or tie but hardly ever deserve to.
As said before cambiasso seemed like he played very well mostly because every scoring oppurtunity Inter had came from one of his crosses
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how did i get the idea cambiasso played bad then lol, maybe i was just too entranced with ronaldo. It sounds like I didn't miss much by watching the chelsea juve game, these big champions league ties have a lot of hype surrounding them but they have all been pretty disappointing.
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Norway28695 Posts
thats usually the case unless barcelona or arsenal is playing lol
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On February 26 2009 09:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
how did i get the idea cambiasso played bad then lol, maybe i was just too entranced with ronaldo. It sounds like I didn't miss much by watching the chelsea juve game, these big champions league ties have a lot of hype surrounding them but they have all been pretty disappointing.
Yup every year the same.
It's not a league it's a cup and like all cup competitions there's no disadvantage in drawing so teams naturally defend.
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I can think of years where it hasn't been like this though, the first thing that comes to my mind is the year when Porto won, Monaco and Deportivo both made amazing comebacks in the quarter and semi-finals.
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Norway28695 Posts
that year was a huge anomaly and all the best teams underperformed ;(
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Unfortunately this year I can see this going to an all English final again. Although it is no secret i'm a huge Man U fan, I would love for them to play a team from Spain or Italy in the finals this time. A Man U vs Liverpool/Chelsea final would just not be as cool.
Purely speculating of course.
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On February 27 2009 06:09 kidd wrote:
Unfortunately this year I can see this going to an all English final again. Although it is no secret i'm a huge Man U fan, I would love for them to play a team from Spain or Italy in the finals this time. A Man U vs Liverpool/Chelsea final would just not be as cool.
Purely speculating of course.
i think Barca still is a better candidate than any English team IMO
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Im a bit confused about Barca..
I hope there liga loss and a draw vs lyon isnt a bad sign..
Well u cant always win, though..
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Norway28695 Posts
i thought barca was the strongest candidate one month ago
united is currently looking like the best defensive team through all time though, literally, and while barca has pretty much been the best offensive team through all time this season defense is more valuable in CL, and it seems like barca might have finally declined a little in form.
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On February 27 2009 14:51 ilj.psa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 06:09 kidd wrote:
Unfortunately this year I can see this going to an all English final again. Although it is no secret i'm a huge Man U fan, I would love for them to play a team from Spain or Italy in the finals this time. A Man U vs Liverpool/Chelsea final would just not be as cool.
Purely speculating of course. i think Barca still is a better candidate than any English team IMO
If this was maybe 1 - 2 months ago, I would have agreed with you. In current form I'd say Man U is the best team followed closely by Liverpool (can't believe i'm saying this) and a newly rivaltilized Chelsea with Hiddink.
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