EPTHe seems to be a decent guy. Of course, he also added some PR small talk, but we can't blame him for this. He's a director after all.
Tim remains silent, even after we've caught him a couple of times in different places ;D
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ChillFlame
77 Posts
He seems to be a decent guy. Of course, he also added some PR small talk, but we can't blame him for this. He's a director after all. Tim remains silent, even after we've caught him a couple of times in different places ;D | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
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sertas
Sweden887 Posts
Disclosure of Conflicts of Interest If you have posted a review for a product that you received for free, or if you have a close personal relationship, financial interest, or are an employee of the developer or publisher, you must disclose that in your review. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1933 Posts
On January 08 2025 23:13 sertas wrote: Disclosure of Conflicts of Interest If you have posted a review for a product that you received for free, or if you have a close personal relationship, financial interest, or are an employee of the developer or publisher, you must disclose that in your review. It's actually interesting that Steam doesn't disclose developer accounts on reviews. That would remove quite a bit of ambiguity from the process. There's probably some tricky edge cases with personal and developer accounts and statuses changing retroactively and all that, but it still seems a pretty useful thing to disclose one way or the other. I guess it really isn't much of an issue since companies with enough voting power don't usually benefit much from 10 reviews or so. In Stormgate's case it probably can make some small difference to turn mostly negative to mixed, especially before the Steam RTS fest coming later on in the month. Not sure how significant that is, but it might affect discoverability or such maybe. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On January 08 2025 19:54 Gorsameth wrote: 2nd link in Chills post, bottom 2 pictures. Fluffy account posted a fake review and is linked to Tim Morten. This is also the second time that Tim Morten got caught sockpuppeting in the span of about 6 months, but it's much more serious this time because it's on Steam directly, there's ironclad evidence linking him directly to the account and there's evidence that there was a coordinated company action to intentionally manipulate the steam review system. It's grounds for a Steam ban at minimum. You don't fuck around with this. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/X0T79jb.png) | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria370 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5427 Posts
If they release a big patch with a lot of cool stuff in a month or two that will give them a much bigger boost than a few fake reviews. Really amateur stuff, especially with how sensitive the RTS community is with them already. Even if it's not really a big deal (in my eyes), you know a lot of players will be upset over this. | ||
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castleeMg
Canada761 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
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ChillFlame
77 Posts
On January 09 2025 02:43 SoleSteeler wrote: After having some positivity with the AMA/art director stuff a few weeks ago, what a stupid thing for them to do. All for a few reviews. If they release a big patch with a lot of cool stuff in a month or two that will give them a much bigger boost than a few fake reviews. Really amateur stuff, especially with how sensitive the RTS community is with them already. Even if it's not really a big deal (in my eyes), you know a lot of players will be upset over this. A big chunk of AMA questions were also fake. 24 were posted by a single sleeping account. The account was deleted soon after. https://www.reddit.com/r/Stormgate/comments/1hi997z/attempted_plant_material_cod_7157_for_tomorrows/ https://www.reddit.com/user/Material_Cod_7157/ https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/Stormgate/comments/1hhyi8p/frost_giant_dev_ama_december_20_10am_pt_1pm_et/ | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6590 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33389 Posts
On January 09 2025 07:08 ChillFlame wrote: A big chunk of AMA questions were also fake. 24 were posted by a single sleeping account. The account was deleted soon after. https://www.reddit.com/r/Stormgate/comments/1hi997z/attempted_plant_material_cod_7157_for_tomorrows/ https://www.reddit.com/user/Material_Cod_7157/ https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/Stormgate/comments/1hhyi8p/frost_giant_dev_ama_december_20_10am_pt_1pm_et/ aight man even the reddit thread is full of people going "huh?" Chill (heh heh) with the conspiracies; plenty of legitimate reasons to be critical of stormgate  | ||
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ChillFlame
77 Posts
On January 09 2025 09:03 Waxangel wrote: aight man even the reddit thread is full of people going "huh?" Chill (heh heh) with the conspiracies; plenty of legitimate reasons to be critical of stormgate That's the fun part. He WAS the conspiracy guy before the incedent =) Now he isn't. I used to think, Tim's old Reddit sockpupetting case was fake. Now I'm not. | ||
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ChillFlame
77 Posts
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RogerChillingworth
2872 Posts
On January 09 2025 09:16 ChillFlame wrote: So explain me why someone would create an account 11 days before the AMA, then ask 24 very convenient questions (most of them were answered), then delete their account after being called out? I don't know but who gives a shit? This should be the least of anyone's worries on the face of the earth. No one asked why you made an account 5 months ago and started complaining that there's a forest tileset in the game. Like holy shit. Thriftbooks, alibris, anything. | ||
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ChillFlame
77 Posts
No one asked why you made an account 5 months ago and started complaining that there's a forest tileset in the game. But you could, and I would answer. I was banned on r/Stormgate so I searched for other discussion platforms. This guy won't answer you, because he is not a real person. I don't know but who gives a shit? This should be the least of anyone's worries on the face of the earth. I find this point of view pretty naive. FG make the shit up every time they get an opportunity. Responding with "Who give a shit" will just help them with damage control. This encourages more bullshit and so on. Everyone decides what is important or interesting for them. I don't like being taken for an idiot. That's it. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1720 Posts
On January 09 2025 09:03 Waxangel wrote: aight man even the reddit thread is full of people going "huh?" Chill (heh heh) with the conspiracies; plenty of legitimate reasons to be critical of stormgate I'm not saying I agree with the OP claiming the AMA questions were planted by devs, but the stormgate subreddit going "huh" is not really conclusive of much. The subreddit is filled with fans of the game who defended the alleged fake reviews as well for not being credible. Whether they are or aren't I'm not here to discuss but I think they tend to see things through rose-tinted glasses so I wouldn't put much weight in that. You can see that when you contrast the comments in the RealTimeStrategy thread to the one on Stormgate. It is weird that if the steam reviews are fake, then frostgiant has shown they aren't afraid to astroturf perception and would make sense for them to do it in the AMA too. Why were the questions asked and then account deleted? I mean seems a bit odd no? Like what someone would do if they were covering something up. Sorry to bump the conspiracy thread but I don't really think there is much in the way to say its' one way or the other at this time. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On January 09 2025 08:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: These guys getting L after L since they revealed that sneak trailer. If they manage to comeback from this it will honestly deserve a netflix series. i mean sh*t. Even if they fail who cares. I will still watch the netflix series. They will need No Man Sky level dedication for that | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
Compromised reviews that are intended to try to sway the all-important Recent Reviews score on Steam have a much, much more significant impact. They don't just provide some opportunity for the company to write some stuff they want to communicate anyway, they directly imply what other players think about the quality of the game itself. I actually think a deleted account that asked a ton of super-informed questions is probably kind of suspicious, but I don't think people should get distracted by that when the Steam thing is so much more egregious. EDIT: Yeah I found your comment hilarious, EonZerg. Not actually a hater of this company and haven't tried the game for myself but it does feel like it's starting to trend more towards a ripe opportunity for documentary, or at least some youtube drama videos, rather than a game release. | ||
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ETisME
12391 Posts
Are we forgetting the whole drama about their KS, that had issues multiple times? Or thinking their valuation model is not misleading investors by using WOL launch numbers as a reference instead of Lotv? This is something totally not out of their character to do. | ||
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