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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
December 20 2015 04:46 GMT
#1641
nooo, the dream

gratz anyway - winning like what, 20k playing an actual "dead game" is no small feat
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 20 2015 04:48 GMT
#1642
It is still one of the greatest run, nobody, nobody expected him to even get out of the group, he was called tourist, without any chance. And he made it through the complete winner bracket. And its not 20k, it is 30k for Yaws, 55k for Fly100%
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
December 20 2015 04:49 GMT
#1643
even better then
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 20 2015 09:37 GMT
#1644
Do we know if the B2W guys will upload the VODs?

I missed nearly all the games, sadly. But I want to watch them and listen to the B2W cast!
I like words.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#1645
On December 20 2015 18:37 Spaylz wrote:
Do we know if the B2W guys will upload the VODs?

I missed nearly all the games, sadly. But I want to watch them and listen to the B2W cast!


At the moment, you can use Azubus VOD system to get acces to the VODs. When B2W is back in Europe and they can use Youtube again, check out their youtube channel. They will upload all VODs there as soon as possbile.

Also I bet that they will make a Rebroadcast/VOD cast on their Twitch-Channel at some point.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 15:05:16
December 20 2015 14:03 GMT
#1646
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.
Other than that i enjoyed the gameplay though, it was pretty exciting (i catched the game where yAwS did some kind of tower rush in the finals). The stream quality was pretty bad for me though so i only saw that one game, personally i would like a remake of it to have an easier time watching it :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 20 2015 15:02 GMT
#1647
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.
Other than that i enjoyed the gameplay though, it was pretty exciting (i catched the game where yAwS did some kind of tower rush in the finals). The stream was pretty bad for me though so i only saw that one game, personally i would like a remake of it to have an easier time watching it :D

Are you sure it wasn't because of the drugs you had taken?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 20 2015 15:04 GMT
#1648
On December 21 2015 00:02 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.
Other than that i enjoyed the gameplay though, it was pretty exciting (i catched the game where yAwS did some kind of tower rush in the finals). The stream was pretty bad for me though so i only saw that one game, personally i would like a remake of it to have an easier time watching it :D

Are you sure it wasn't because of the drugs you had taken?

What a creative comment
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
December 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#1649
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.

hahaha the 1st time i saw the game i was blown away by the graphics xD but it was in 2002 with RoC though
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 15:20:52
December 20 2015 15:12 GMT
#1650
On December 21 2015 00:07 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.

hahaha the 1st time i saw the game i was blown away by the graphics xD but it was in 2002 with RoC though

As i said that might be a very personal problem, but i always thought old 3D looks WAY worse than 2D.
Bad 3D graphics just don't age that well imo. I can watch BW no problem for example, but i had a hard time watching Wc3 in the end because of the aesthetics.
Not knowing anything (how the units look and what they do, etc) doens't really help obviously :D
Still, i kinda liked that one game i catched. It looked intense and the casting did its job rather well too.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 20 2015 15:19 GMT
#1651
Haha, it is funny for me, because I can watch Warcraft III all day and even think "hey, its not looking too bad for a game from 2002", but I just cannot stand Brood War. I feel plain uncomfortable watching BW due to the graphic, while I do not have these issues with Warcraft III. I think it comes a bit from nostalgica. The last time I played BW was, when I was 12 years old, but since I am 13, I play Warcraft III every year once in a while and I watch Warcraft III esport since the same time. Now, 12 years later, I cannot understand how I thought BW looked good, while I still think Warcraft III looks actually quite decent. I am just used to Warcraft graphics and very unused to BW graphic, which makes me feel/think the way I do about both games.
Same goes for other old games, I keep playing, like Star Wars Knights of the old Republik. I am just used to the graphic and thus do not bother about it.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 15:22:04
December 20 2015 15:21 GMT
#1652
On December 21 2015 00:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 00:07 Topin wrote:
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.

hahaha the 1st time i saw the game i was blown away by the graphics xD but it was in 2002 with RoC though

As i said that might be a very personal problem, but i always thought old 3D looks WAY worse than 2D.
Bad 3D graphics just don't age that well imo. I can watch BW no problem for example, but i had a hard time watching Wc3 in the end because of the aesthetics.
Not knowing anything (how the unit looks and what they do, etc) doens't really help obviously :D
Still, i kinda liked that one game i catched. It looked intense and the casting did its job rather well too.

i agree that the 3D of wc3 didnt aged well, thats why some of us are realle excited by the project Armies of Azeroth. about knowing what is happening if you didnt play the game you will have to learn all the spells and abilities of the units the same way if someone new watched sc2 or bw. im glad you liked wc3
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 15:24:14
December 20 2015 15:22 GMT
#1653
Maybe i just like 2D games in general. I have the same feelings about 2D Mario/Zelda games in comparison to the 3D N64 counterparts tbh.

Is there an easy way to get some idea about wc3? Like a day9 noobie video series or anything like that? Is there even more wc3 to watch?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
December 20 2015 15:23 GMT
#1654
On December 21 2015 00:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 00:07 Topin wrote:
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.

hahaha the 1st time i saw the game i was blown away by the graphics xD but it was in 2002 with RoC though

As i said that might be a very personal problem, but i always thought old 3D looks WAY worse than 2D.
Bad 3D graphics just don't age that well imo. I can watch BW no problem for example, but i had a hard time watching Wc3 in the end because of the aesthetics.
Not knowing anything (how the units look and what they do, etc) doens't really help obviously :D
Still, i kinda liked that one game i catched. It looked intense and the casting did its job rather well too.


I generally agree - sprites rock the house, but wc3 has aged ridiculously well in comparison to other rts 3d endeavors.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 20 2015 16:06 GMT
#1655
On December 21 2015 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Maybe i just like 2D games in general. I have the same feelings about 2D Mario/Zelda games in comparison to the 3D N64 counterparts tbh.

Is there an easy way to get some idea about wc3? Like a day9 noobie video series or anything like that? Is there even more wc3 to watch?


Grubbys Warcraft commentary on his youtube channel, there he comments his games. You learn EVERYTHING about the orc race, when you watch them and alot about other races and all the other stuff, like items, creeps and so on.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
December 20 2015 16:16 GMT
#1656
the red viper: if you dont like wc3 graphics, how is sc2 for you? I like wc3 alot more than sc2, because sc2 colors are too pale for me.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 20 2015 16:58 GMT
#1657
On December 21 2015 01:16 Dingodile wrote:
the red viper: if you dont like wc3 graphics, how is sc2 for you? I like wc3 alot more than sc2, because sc2 colors are too pale for me.

Hm i think sc2 is fine tbh. I just really dislike the very obvious technical limitations in old 3D graphics (lack of polygons as an example) Wc3 also seems too colorful to me tbh haha.
But yeah this is really just a problem for me because i didn't really play wc3 back then i guess.
I didn't play bw either though and i think it looks pretty 'good'. But as i said 2D imo doesn't age as badly as 3D, i think that is fair to say?!

Will there be another wc3 tournament in the near time which is casted in english? If not i will just watch some vods i guess^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 20:17:17
December 20 2015 17:19 GMT
#1658
On December 21 2015 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 00:02 Lucumo wrote:
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.
Other than that i enjoyed the gameplay though, it was pretty exciting (i catched the game where yAwS did some kind of tower rush in the finals). The stream was pretty bad for me though so i only saw that one game, personally i would like a remake of it to have an easier time watching it :D

Are you sure it wasn't because of the drugs you had taken?

What a creative comment

Specifically tailored towards you. I even asked myself thrice whether to post it but you definitely warranted it.

/edit:
On December 21 2015 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am sure i did. Now bother someone else

Let's see:
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.
Other than that i enjoyed the gameplay though, it was pretty exciting (i catched the game where yAwS did some kind of tower rush in the finals). The stream quality was pretty bad for me though so i only saw that one game, personally i would like a remake of it to have an easier time watching it :D

1. You say the graphics look terrible, despite shortly afterwards stating that the stream quality is "pretty bad". How are you, then, able to make such an assessment?
2. Everything looks the same? Next time play the actual game or watch at a proper quality to see the differences in unit size, the colour differences and what each unit does. The game is way more distinguishable than other RTS games.
3. "I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out..." - and probably for no one else that watches the game in a proper quality...and more than just one game. This is (and the following) the worst part since it comes after talking trash (without good reason), only to placate the readers.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 20 2015 17:25 GMT
#1659
On December 21 2015 02:19 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 21 2015 00:02 Lucumo wrote:
On December 20 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I tried to watch some games but i personally think it's extremely hard to understand ANYTHING because of the graphics.
It really, really looks just terrible. Bad 3D is just so hard to appreciate these days, everything looks kinda the same :/
I know this probably won't be an issue for anyone who knows the game in and out, but i had a hard time getting into it aesthetically.
Other than that i enjoyed the gameplay though, it was pretty exciting (i catched the game where yAwS did some kind of tower rush in the finals). The stream was pretty bad for me though so i only saw that one game, personally i would like a remake of it to have an easier time watching it :D

Are you sure it wasn't because of the drugs you had taken?

What a creative comment

Specifically tailored towards you. I even asked myself thrice whether to post it but you definitely warranted it.

I am sure i did. Now bother someone else
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 20 2015 18:05 GMT
#1660
On December 21 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 01:16 Dingodile wrote:
the red viper: if you dont like wc3 graphics, how is sc2 for you? I like wc3 alot more than sc2, because sc2 colors are too pale for me.

Hm i think sc2 is fine tbh. I just really dislike the very obvious technical limitations in old 3D graphics (lack of polygons as an example) Wc3 also seems too colorful to me tbh haha.
But yeah this is really just a problem for me because i didn't really play wc3 back then i guess.
I didn't play bw either though and i think it looks pretty 'good'. But as i said 2D imo doesn't age as badly as 3D, i think that is fair to say?!

Will there be another wc3 tournament in the near time which is casted in english? If not i will just watch some vods i guess^^


The next offline event will be the finals of the Netease ladder contest in china. I dont think there will be a english cast for it. Maybe restreamers who comment what they see.
The next offline event with english commentary is mostlikely WCA 2016 (when they stay alive). Other then that, maybe Afreeca or Twitch.kr will do something, as both did some online tournaments this year. With Moon coming back to Warcraft, nothing seems to be impossible. Other than that, it will need some arabian billionare to sponsor a offline event to have more then WCA next year.

Onlinecups are hold in Europe every saturday and sunday with the GoldenCup and the Gera Cup. I think they will not be hold during holiday. Follow Back2Warcraft on Twitter or Facebook to be aware of all their casts.
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