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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
September 27 2015 21:11 GMT
#1461
Don't play with my emotions like this. Bliz pls.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 27 2015 21:48 GMT
#1462
If it's just wc3 in HD, sign me the fuck up. However, if it's warcraft 4, I'm not that excited. They'll screw it up anyway.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 23:04:44
September 27 2015 23:00 GMT
#1463
On September 27 2015 08:35 Spaylz wrote:
http://segmentnext.com/2015/09/22/warcraft-4-teased-almost-confirmed-by-netease-vp/

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.


at the WCS-Poland event in 2 different interviews Chris Sigaty stated that nothing is planned for the next 10 years in the SC2/RTS space... so if its another Warcraft game.. it won't be an RTS.

Chris Sigaty is the executive producer of SC2.

so stop praying for a Warcraft game in the RTS genre... its not happening.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 27 2015 23:35 GMT
#1464
On September 28 2015 08:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2015 08:35 Spaylz wrote:
http://segmentnext.com/2015/09/22/warcraft-4-teased-almost-confirmed-by-netease-vp/

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.


at the WCS-Poland event in 2 different interviews Chris Sigaty stated that nothing is planned for the next 10 years in the SC2/RTS space... so if its another Warcraft game.. it won't be an RTS.

Chris Sigaty is the executive producer of SC2.

so stop praying for a Warcraft game in the RTS genre... its not happening.


It's Warcraft III HD. If it's WC3 HD, it's not really a new game. Just a remake of an old one. And it adds up with what Blizzard has said in the past; about how they want to bring back their older games for new PCs.

The real question is how HD is HD. If it's just an Age of Empires II-like HD, then... it'll suck. If they actually bring the graphics to HotS-level, then it'll rock.

I feel like if there really is something coming, it'll be announced at BlizzCon.

I BELIEVE!
I like words.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 01:36:11
September 28 2015 01:34 GMT
#1465
HD and a patch would be nice. if the community grew by maybe 3 times, then I think we'd have another golden age.

not like AoE. I am not able to guess whether a pic is from HD or not. same with Baldurs Gate.

btw: Grubby will stream Wc3 more often now, and also make a new season of Wc3 commentairies.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
September 28 2015 02:06 GMT
#1466
China netizens are all speculating a RTS/MOBA mashup War4

that next few posts in the weibo account are all war3 reminisce posts...
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 28 2015 02:07 GMT
#1467
On September 28 2015 11:06 Probemicro wrote:
China netizens are all speculating a RTS/MOBA mashup War4

that next few posts in the weibo account are all war3 reminisce posts...


Well that won't happen. A "RTS/MOBA mash-up War IV" is basically Heroes of the Storm.

Warcraft III HD! Come on!
I like words.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
September 28 2015 02:12 GMT
#1468
On September 28 2015 11:07 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 11:06 Probemicro wrote:
China netizens are all speculating a RTS/MOBA mashup War4

that next few posts in the weibo account are all war3 reminisce posts...


Well that won't happen. A "RTS/MOBA mash-up War IV" is basically Heroes of the Storm.

Warcraft III HD! Come on!


thats pure MOBA with nonsensical SC/Diablo characters mixed in, thats not War4

War4 will still retain some RTS aspects (at least being able to control creep units) with basebuilding/resource collection massively toned down for casual play. IF War4 ever appear thats how it will be like, bet on it.

Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
September 28 2015 02:44 GMT
#1469
On September 28 2015 11:12 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 11:07 Spaylz wrote:
On September 28 2015 11:06 Probemicro wrote:
China netizens are all speculating a RTS/MOBA mashup War4

that next few posts in the weibo account are all war3 reminisce posts...


Well that won't happen. A "RTS/MOBA mash-up War IV" is basically Heroes of the Storm.

Warcraft III HD! Come on!


thats pure MOBA with nonsensical SC/Diablo characters mixed in, thats not War4

War4 will still retain some RTS aspects (at least being able to control creep units) with basebuilding/resource collection massively toned down for casual play. IF War4 ever appear thats how it will be like, bet on it.



Eh. Majority of characters in HOTS are WC3 (very few WoW-only chars... only LiLi to my knowledge).

And unfortunately there isn't exactly an uproar from people who want WC4... just a handful of nerds in a pocket of RTS, which is basically a moribund genre except for SC.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 02:56:33
September 28 2015 02:55 GMT
#1470
On September 28 2015 11:44 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 11:12 Probemicro wrote:
On September 28 2015 11:07 Spaylz wrote:
On September 28 2015 11:06 Probemicro wrote:
China netizens are all speculating a RTS/MOBA mashup War4

that next few posts in the weibo account are all war3 reminisce posts...


Well that won't happen. A "RTS/MOBA mash-up War IV" is basically Heroes of the Storm.

Warcraft III HD! Come on!


thats pure MOBA with nonsensical SC/Diablo characters mixed in, thats not War4

War4 will still retain some RTS aspects (at least being able to control creep units) with basebuilding/resource collection massively toned down for casual play. IF War4 ever appear thats how it will be like, bet on it.



Eh. Majority of characters in HOTS are WC3 (very few WoW-only chars... only LiLi to my knowledge).

And unfortunately there isn't exactly an uproar from people who want WC4... just a handful of nerds in a pocket of RTS, which is basically a moribund genre except for SC.


Yeah, the large majority of HotS heroes are from the Warcraft lore. People have complained about it, too.

Though some of the heroes are a mixture of WoW and WC3. Chen for example is arguably a Pandaren Brewmaster, but the actual character is from WoW:MoP. Same goes for Falstad (Gryphon Rider) or Gazlowe (Tinker).

Rehgar is WoW only I think? And so is E.T.C.

Anywho, I agree. At this point, WCIII:HD is far more likely than WCIV. Which I like.
I like words.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
September 28 2015 04:36 GMT
#1471
@Probemicro: do you speak Chinese? if yes, could you maybe keep us a little informed about the Chinese going ons about Wc4? it is very interesting!


btw, arent Lol and Dota 2 less userfriendly games than Wc3? I dont play them, but I hear the bad manner is strong in those communities, understandably since it is a team game. In Wc3 you can get away with low skill in team games, as long as you know how to produce stuff.
So I dont think Wc4 should become less complex to appeal more to people. I think the gameconcept is pretty perfect for everyone and would be quite successful.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
September 28 2015 05:54 GMT
#1472
On September 28 2015 11:55 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 11:44 Yoav wrote:
On September 28 2015 11:12 Probemicro wrote:
On September 28 2015 11:07 Spaylz wrote:
On September 28 2015 11:06 Probemicro wrote:
China netizens are all speculating a RTS/MOBA mashup War4

that next few posts in the weibo account are all war3 reminisce posts...


Well that won't happen. A "RTS/MOBA mash-up War IV" is basically Heroes of the Storm.

Warcraft III HD! Come on!


thats pure MOBA with nonsensical SC/Diablo characters mixed in, thats not War4

War4 will still retain some RTS aspects (at least being able to control creep units) with basebuilding/resource collection massively toned down for casual play. IF War4 ever appear thats how it will be like, bet on it.



Eh. Majority of characters in HOTS are WC3 (very few WoW-only chars... only LiLi to my knowledge).

And unfortunately there isn't exactly an uproar from people who want WC4... just a handful of nerds in a pocket of RTS, which is basically a moribund genre except for SC.


Yeah, the large majority of HotS heroes are from the Warcraft lore. People have complained about it, too.

Though some of the heroes are a mixture of WoW and WC3. Chen for example is arguably a Pandaren Brewmaster, but the actual character is from WoW:MoP. Same goes for Falstad (Gryphon Rider) or Gazlowe (Tinker).

Rehgar is WoW only I think? And so is E.T.C.

Anywho, I agree. At this point, WCIII:HD is far more likely than WCIV. Which I like.


Chen is a playable character in TFT Orc campaign. His ability set in Heroes is more or less a direct copy of the WC3 one, with a replacement in place of the passive ability.

Rexxar, Kael'thas, Sylvanas, Thrall, Jaina, Anub'arak, Chen, Arthas, Muradin, Illidan, Malfurion, and Tyrande are all playable characters in the WC3 campaigns.

Uther and Gazlowe are characters you can interact with in the campaign, but not play as.

ETC and Gazlowe are both rendered as versions of WC3 hero units (TC and Tinker, respectively).

A few HOTS heroes are takes on non-hero units: Rhegar (Shaman), Brightwing (Faerie Dragon), Stitches (Abomination), Murky (uh... Murloc #7?), and Falstad (Gryphon).

Only LiLi isn't really related to WC3 at all.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 07:44:12
September 28 2015 07:37 GMT
#1473
ok so its gonna be a wc3 "remake"

below is a post of a Chinese forum user from war3 replays site,
insider information from personnel of dj.163.com (which houses the Netease gaming platform, a Chinese gaming platform/client similar to Steam/Garena), which is owned by Netease (the origin of the whole HD wc3/wc4 news starts from the weibo of Netease VP)

+ Show Spoiler +
晚上和网易对战平台(dj . 163 . com)的朋友聊了会。

问清楚一些情况了,新平台已经做好了,暂时不会新增功能了。独立的账户,还是网易系的账号来登录,不是战网。新平台开发人员大部分是网易对战平台(dj . 163 . com)的人,暴雪提供素材库。

还是2003年发布的那款冰封王座,补丁不会更新,新内容都在平台端实现,玩单机还和以前一样。

预计新增的内容是:录像系统改进,为了配合断线重连功能,1V1对战,如果一方突然没网,只要不是死机,游戏暂停,几分钟内可以在平台重新启动游戏加入战局。

皮肤和UI游戏内实时切换,切换后OB也可看到效果。

后期会加入彩色文字功能。

匹配模式是标配,锦标赛会启动,新地图不会加,都是暴雪标志图。

最早是下周四推出,如果推迟,最迟是10月14。


-A new WC3 game platform/client (which will be used to launch the actual game and to buy MTX) and server (housed in China) is made for the WC3 remake, separate from B.net 2.0. You have to register a new (free) account to play WC3 through the platform and not use your B.net account

Repeat: this will be separate from B.net, you will not see WC3 icon appear on the B.net 2 page, the server and client for this remake will originate from China and be run and maintained by 163.com personnel, so its evidently a WC3 remake targeted at the Chinese market

The new platform is mostly designed by programmers from 163.com, Blizzard merely assisted through providing libraries/code necessary for running of the new platform and server.

-Same WC3 TFT from 2003, no new (balance) patch, any new content will appear only through the new platform, campaign remains untouched

-planned new content: improvements to replay system, in 1v1 players who accidentally disconnect can reconnect to the same game within a few minutes...

-new skins and UI appearances to be introduced, can be modified even during matches and seen from observer POV. All new content is only available or purchasable through the new Netease WC3 game platform (which will be separate from the old Netease game platform AND from B.net 2.0)

-coloured font support to be added later (lol)

-new matchmaking system (probably similar to sc2?), there will be ladder seasons, standard blizzard maps to be used (kek)

earliest to be released this week thursday, if not by 14th Oct.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
September 28 2015 10:44 GMT
#1474
thanks so much!!!
sounds too good to be true. omg!
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
September 28 2015 11:44 GMT
#1475
No it doesn't. That's terribly disappointing.

It's just another, better YY.

Meh.
I like words.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 28 2015 13:33 GMT
#1476
Which engine? I hope it is the same as wc3 (2003). SC2 engine is very terrible for micro based RTS games after I played wc3 HD in sSC2 (mod). The movement of Blademaster is very noticeable.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States340 Posts
September 28 2015 16:00 GMT
#1477
Ah, makes sense if it is only for China. The game is still pretty huge there. I wonder if there is anyway for us to get on it?
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
September 28 2015 16:48 GMT
#1478
As we were able to use YY, we may be able to connect on the new network. It will just have terrible latency.

But WC3 alive! At least in China.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10801 Posts
September 30 2015 07:39 GMT
#1479
Woah can't believe I missed this, this is actually really cool news.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-30 09:11:39
September 30 2015 09:02 GMT
#1480
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


EDIT: And then I read it is just a Chinese remake for Warcraft III
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