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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 23 2014 12:08 GMT
#14321
I love how we always end up back there. We're like a ping pong ball:

Enel is god -----> Oda is wrong
Enel is god <----- Oda is wrong
Enel is god ------> Oda is wrong
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44176 Posts
March 23 2014 12:30 GMT
#14322
On March 23 2014 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I love how we always end up back there. We're like a ping pong ball:

Enel is god -----> Oda is wrong
Enel is god <----- Oda is wrong
Enel is god ------> Oda is wrong

Oda is God ? no ?
this is a quote
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
March 23 2014 13:17 GMT
#14323
On March 23 2014 21:30 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I love how we always end up back there. We're like a ping pong ball:

Enel is god -----> Oda is wrong
Enel is god <----- Oda is wrong
Enel is god ------> Oda is wrong

Oda is God ? no ?


Oda is Enel.
I need a new quote...
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
March 23 2014 13:28 GMT
#14324
Please keep posts like these to 4chan and reddit T_T Seeing this thread bumped for yet another "oda is wrong lolololol" or "enel is god lolololol" post is anoying, some people actually have interesting things to say in this thread.

If you are going to talk about Enel or Oda being wrong, actually create an interesting post about it. "Oda is Enel." and "Oda is God? no?" are not valid, interesting, or needed posts.
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 23 2014 13:36 GMT
#14325
On March 23 2014 22:28 Raneth wrote:
Please keep posts like these to 4chan and reddit T_T Seeing this thread bumped for yet another "oda is wrong lolololol" or "enel is god lolololol" post is anoying, some people actually have interesting things to say in this thread.

If you are going to talk about Enel or Oda being wrong, actually create an interesting post about it. "Oda is Enel." and "Oda is God? no?" are not valid, interesting, or needed posts.


You don't get to decide that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
March 23 2014 13:48 GMT
#14326
On March 23 2014 22:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 22:28 Raneth wrote:
Please keep posts like these to 4chan and reddit T_T Seeing this thread bumped for yet another "oda is wrong lolololol" or "enel is god lolololol" post is anoying, some people actually have interesting things to say in this thread.

If you are going to talk about Enel or Oda being wrong, actually create an interesting post about it. "Oda is Enel." and "Oda is God? no?" are not valid, interesting, or needed posts.


You don't get to decide that.


Im not deciding anything

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/17883-tlnet-ten-commandments
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 13:56:16
March 23 2014 13:53 GMT
#14327
You're violating the third and the tenth command and should be ashamed of yourself

These jokes about Enel and Oda being wrong are ones that developed here. It's part of the fun of this thread for a lot of people. If it isn't for you then feel free to introduce different topics. But telling people not to have fun and joke around just because you don't enjoy this thread being bumped with content you personally don't enjoy is not cool.

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Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 13:57:07
March 23 2014 13:56 GMT
#14328
I am not being a backseat moderator, I asked people to think about their posts. Violating number 10? I am not the only person who reads this thread that gets fed up with pointless posts.

There is a difference between having a discussion about how powerful you think Enel is, or how you think things Oda has said are conflicting with the manga, and saying "enel is god"

I made a simple request, and appealed to the forum rules supporting that when you flat out rejected that request.

Edit: Also, we should really move this to PM's if you wish to continue the conversation
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 14:00:40
March 23 2014 13:57 GMT
#14329
I wholeheartedly don't

Our opinions differ, there's nothing else to it. Let people have fun. There's a time for serious discussion (which we have a lot in here as well) and there's fun. It's a natural thing and shouldn't be forced. Let people talk about what they want to talk about.

That's all I have to say. Oh and if you feel like posts don't meet the forum's standards then you're always welcome to report them.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44176 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 14:28:29
March 23 2014 14:23 GMT
#14330
@Raneth as DarkLordOlli said there are times where people talk about ridiculous things and people talking about serious things. If people were only to visit this thread just to have arguments and talk about one piece seriously. I don't know about you but that happening is incredibly boring . It is like we are seeing a thread of a forums for about trouble shooting about something.



I think it's better to just report us if you really feel like we are not following the forum standards and let the mods decide.
this is a quote
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 23 2014 15:03 GMT
#14331
Could you not go all meta on this.

Just spouting catch phrases gets really old really quick. Raneth is right about that.
Oda is wrong etc. are just catch phrases. It's the equivalent of a post just showing us the One Piece logo, and then expect us to be entertained because we like One Piece.

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 23 2014 15:14 GMT
#14332
On March 24 2014 00:03 Mataza wrote:
Could you not go all meta on this.

Just spouting catch phrases gets really old really quick. Raneth is right about that.
Oda is wrong etc. are just catch phrases. It's the equivalent of a post just showing us the One Piece logo, and then expect us to be entertained because we like One Piece.


why do we only need to post things that would entertain everyone?
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 15:57:51
March 23 2014 15:54 GMT
#14333
People do have a point when the question if the movies/anime are canon even when they are approved by Oda because some of the events of the movie would be huge if they took place yet aren't acknowledged and they are hard to fit in the timeline of the manga.

How could the Strawhats defeat Shiki one of Roger's rivals and a previous Admiral, but nobody cares including the Marines. When does the film Z take place when post time skip the crew was running a very tight schedule going to Punk Hazard immediately after getting to the surface? After Punk Hazard they had deal with the time sensitive Donflamingo announcement. While the character Shiki does exist even in the manga it doesn't feel like canon it is when the events are never acknowledged or referenced even if the movies were Oda approved.

Though I think it's a bit much to claim all things revealed in the anime/movies are meaningless as I'm sure character information will carry over which was the original dispute. For example Coby's strength post time skip which has only been seen in the anime is probably canon and will be reintroduced to manga only readers when Coby shows up again along with his new appearance and rank. The background for the mysterious Shichibukai will similarly stay the same, he will have sliced a previous Admirals arm off even though and they may or may not mention his name, but will definitely not mention what Zephyr did.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 23 2014 16:14 GMT
#14334
On March 23 2014 22:56 Raneth wrote:
I am not being a backseat moderator, I asked people to think about their posts. Violating number 10? I am not the only person who reads this thread that gets fed up with pointless posts.

There is a difference between having a discussion about how powerful you think Enel is, or how you think things Oda has said are conflicting with the manga, and saying "enel is god"

I made a simple request, and appealed to the forum rules supporting that when you flat out rejected that request.

Edit: Also, we should really move this to PM's if you wish to continue the conversation

I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 16:28:20
March 23 2014 16:24 GMT
#14335
I didn't think it was an arguing point, that it was a set rule across all manga when turned into an anime. If its not in the manga its non-canon. Its not like the community got together and said x is acceptable and y isn't, its something that came about because the anime will always catch up with the manga and filler is needed. Are there any examples of manga referring to something that never happened in the manga but happened in a movie or anime?
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 18:15:49
March 23 2014 17:24 GMT
#14336
I think Strong World and Z were the only movies Oda worked on and the rest of the movies were just fun stories so the anime/movies revealing character being able to reveal character info is relatively new. If any of the returning characters first seen in Z retain their appearance and new status then my point will be made. Unlike the adventures that are difficult to fit in with the main story it's fine to reveal changes in returning characters in the movies. The back story for the mystery Shichibukai can be the same and so I don't see why it wouldn't be worked in the manga too.

Kuzan's first post time skip appearance was in the Z film showing him having lost part of his right leg and now using his DF to make a prosthetic leg. It's probably canon and it's probably canon in the manga too. Film Z was released Dec 2012 while the chapter where he saved Smoker was released Feb 2013.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 18:18:00
March 23 2014 18:17 GMT
#14337
Aren't a lot of anime movies 'what if' scenarios? I've only watched a couple of them but I seem to remember the characters losing their memories at the end of the movie often to avoid the plot hole questions. I think it happened in every pokemon movie but it's been years since I watched any of those.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#14338
Here is the thing about the movies... Did the events actually happen in the Manga Timeline? Who knows, but probably not. Its not like the manga follows the daily lives of the Strawhats 24/7. Now, they probably DID happen in the Anime Timeline 100%, but that is whole different argument I won't bother getting into.

But considering that Strong World and Film Z did come from Oda, that puts a different spin on them. Like Paperplane says, it basically makes them a "What If" scenario. The source information that the movies are built around all came from the same guy who writes the "canon". Which would mean that Shiki did exist, and Z did exist. And if the Strawhats did confront them, things would have probably gone down they way they did in the movies.

I personally think using the word "canon" and "not canon" is silly. I'd rather call the Movie Events "unofficial".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
March 23 2014 22:53 GMT
#14339
Did we already discuss what would be Enel's bounty if he was on the sea?

I think we should.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 23:02:41
March 23 2014 22:59 GMT
#14340
On March 24 2014 07:53 Superouman wrote:
Did we already discuss what would be Enel's bounty if he was on the sea?

I think we should.


Oda said 500M.
And i'm pretty sure the movie Z is canon.
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