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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
February 19 2014 19:54 GMT
#13581
On February 20 2014 04:49 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 04:41 shark. wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:36 Forikorder wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:31 shark. wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:22 Forikorder wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:21 shark. wrote:
On February 20 2014 04:16 Forikorder wrote:
On February 20 2014 03:56 shark. wrote:
On February 20 2014 03:48 Forikorder wrote:
On February 20 2014 03:40 shark. wrote:
[quote]
Dofla is huge in the New World and is actually active unlike Moriah and Croc who went for the easy life doing spooky things from the safety of their position dealing with no names. DD is doing what he does best and has an actual crew with him. Its very different to the past 2 confrontations.

DD is staying away from the front lines just as much as they are he has his crew do all the heavy lifting

Like nothing has happened in terms of fighting. Law getting rekt by everyone and a little of DD trolling Sanji is all that has happened from DD or his crew. All we know about DD from this arc is that when Law pissed him off he got totally owned. DD we know is a bigshot but we haven't seen anything of his crew really. The fighting is yet to have begun. We saw a little about the art chick but that cant be classed as fighting.

law got rekt because dofla had admiral helping and Sanji more fell for a trap

Uhm... not quite.


so your saying that Law didnt fight both of them at once? or that Sanji lost because Dofla grabbed him with the string Sanji didnt know about?

No I am saying that Law lost to DD with an Admiral and again without an Admiral. Law even said he doesn't think hes capable of defeating DD. Sanji just got rekt by DD without even fazing him in the slightest. Sanji and Law both lost to DD fair and square. Give Sanji information before hand and he still loses. I don't see how you could attempt to argue these facts tbh. DD beats Law and Sanji every time from what we have been shown.

the second time he was still heavily wounded from the first fight

Sanji didnt know what DDs fruit could do and it was a mid-air fight where DD would ahve the advantage so its not odd that Sanji had to retreat

Wounded or not he still loses. Plus it's a Shounen, people getting bruised don't mean shit to weather they are any weaker.

Sanji is just a mobile in the air as DD has been shown to be(This thread has been down this road before) and it wasn't a retreat it was Law saving his ass from getting the same treatment Dressrosa got from DDs whip.

ya he lost to a tag team of DD and an admiral

and Sanji is not as mobile as DD who can essentialy fly, Sanji can jsut jump


Between Sanji and DD, Sanji is most certainly closest to being able to flat out fly.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
February 19 2014 19:57 GMT
#13582
What if DD can also skywalk!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
February 19 2014 20:00 GMT
#13583
On February 20 2014 04:57 flamewheel wrote:
What if DD can also skywalk!


Well in that case they are gonna get fucked over pretty bad, when it turns out that DD is going to get them even when there is no clouds.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 19 2014 20:40 GMT
#13584
On February 20 2014 04:53 Mataza wrote:
Actually, shouldn't Sanji be more agile since he can freely jump, while Dofla can only walk where he can connect strings to clouds?

in general but in a scenario where dofla can connect his strings he has much higher maneuverability
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
February 19 2014 21:02 GMT
#13585
On February 20 2014 05:40 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 04:53 Mataza wrote:
Actually, shouldn't Sanji be more agile since he can freely jump, while Dofla can only walk where he can connect strings to clouds?

in general but in a scenario where dofla can connect his strings he has much higher maneuverability


Why is that? If there is only a few clouds it would be very hard to him to move up, where was Sanji can basicly rise as high as he sees fit.
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
February 19 2014 21:08 GMT
#13586
Fork, just admit you're wrong. DF uses his strings which use his hands to 'fly', sanji can literally fly and move any way he sees fit in the air.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 19 2014 21:09 GMT
#13587
On February 20 2014 06:08 Chro wrote:
Fork, just admit you're wrong. DF uses his strings which use his hands to 'fly', sanji can literally fly and move any way he sees fit in the air.

no he can just jump in the air theres a big difference
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 19 2014 21:10 GMT
#13588
On February 20 2014 03:31 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 03:17 shark. wrote:
The Shichibukai are a huge deal though. They are one of the 3 great powers in OP. Would be a shame for another one of them to fall the Straw Hats right now imo.

I really like that theory though.

not like 2 of them already have...


yeah lol what the heck, if the straw hats can't beat a 3rd shichibukai after 2 years of training then they'll never beat jack shit

luffy will beat doflamingo, though he'll struggle with it (à la rob lucci or crocodile) and i can see zoro holding off fujitora until fujitora realizes that the actions of the straw hats aren't endangering civilians
maru lover forever
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 19 2014 21:12 GMT
#13589
I agree with ForikBROrder.

Sanji definitely not as mobile as DD.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 19 2014 21:51 GMT
#13590
Are you trying to kill people with just the things you write, Mensol? I definitely feel pain from reading that.

Also since there is the argument that Luffy can't beat yet another Shichibukai:
Assuming Mihawk is neutral(not going to be an arc villain), and 2 other Shichibukai being Buggy and Hancock that leaves the following actively opposing SH:
DD
Bartholomew Kuma
the mystery new Shichibukai

Not to forget that Sentomarou(the "leader" of the Pacifista unit) strongly hinted that there are new and improved cyborgs/robots in the governments arsenal.

As for other enemies that almost surely will have to be defeated too there are Kaidou, Blackbeard, the 3 Admirals and Akainu. Maybe other characters who we don't know for sure if they reappear as enemies like Big Mom, the other 6 Supernova crews, Sengoku, Kong, Magellan, Dr. Vegapunk, hell maybe even Enel or the landbased military forces(where Fujitora was before).
That is not including any enemies that Oda hasn't yet revealed.
I think Oda has the next 16 years or so already laid out in front of him without need to hold back.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
February 19 2014 21:56 GMT
#13591
And can we ban mensol, he's a troll. He tries his hardest to get people to argue for no reason.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 22:28:00
February 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#13592
Dude what the heck?

We're talking about DD who can fly to another island with strings, and how about Sanji? His skywalk is very limited.

yeah i agree with Forikorder, so what?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 22:37:15
February 19 2014 22:34 GMT
#13593
Sanji is definitely more mobile than DD. Doflamingo swings around on clouds. Swings. Sanji can indefinitely jump in the air, and if CP9's use of the technique is any indication, it is essentially flying. Sanji can go as far as his stamina can take him. Which is the same as anyone. Whose to say Sanji can't just Sky Walk to another Island? His legs are monsterously strong, afterall.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
February 19 2014 23:06 GMT
#13594
I was watching the marinford arc again. Correct me if I am wrong but

the vice admiral in the center panel here
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/735/15

isn't he the same person as shown in the bottom right panel here next to momonga.
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-49859-10/one-piece/chapter-580.html
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18443 Posts
February 19 2014 23:11 GMT
#13595
On February 20 2014 08:06 terranghost wrote:
I was watching the marinford arc again. Correct me if I am wrong but

the vice admiral in the center panel here
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/735/15

isn't he the same person as shown in the bottom right panel here next to momonga.
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-49859-10/one-piece/chapter-580.html


yes, he is one of the countless vice admirals, what do you want to say? ^^
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 19 2014 23:37 GMT
#13596
On February 20 2014 07:27 Mensol wrote:
Dude what the heck?

We're talking about DD who can fly to another island with strings, and how about Sanji? His skywalk is very limited.

yeah i agree with Forikorder, so what?


If you're going to troll can you at a least explain yourself further? Why do you think Sanji's skywalk is "very limited" and what is it about being able to travel from one island to the next that makes you more mobiles in the sky?
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 20 2014 00:00 GMT
#13597
On February 20 2014 08:37 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 07:27 Mensol wrote:
Dude what the heck?

We're talking about DD who can fly to another island with strings, and how about Sanji? His skywalk is very limited.

yeah i agree with Forikorder, so what?


If you're going to troll can you at a least explain yourself further? Why do you think Sanji's skywalk is "very limited" and what is it about being able to travel from one island to the next that makes you more mobiles in the sky?

On February 20 2014 06:09 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 06:08 Chro wrote:
Fork, just admit you're wrong. DF uses his strings which use his hands to 'fly', sanji can literally fly and move any way he sees fit in the air.

no he can just jump in the air theres a big difference

He already gave answer for that.

also wtf? When Forikorder says same thing its not trolling. but when i say same thing it counts as trolling?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 00:04:51
February 20 2014 00:04 GMT
#13598
Sanji needs to get haki coating to another level like vergo because he is a melee fighter but then again DD has Conqueror's Haki.

Crocodile is much improved now because his loss against Luffy humbled him but i don't know if he could easily beat Vergo, Cesar Clow or Monet, much less Diamante, Pika or Trebol. So yeah DD has a much better army then Croc had. He had a guy that shot boogers !!! :D

This chapter was slow but the story right now has so many things going on.. looking forward! :D
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sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
February 20 2014 00:11 GMT
#13599
I never understood the logic behind making zoro a master of Arnament Haki and give Sanji strong observation haki. Wouldnt Observation haki be more suited for a swordsman who has to predict and parry the moves of his opponant in a sword-duel?

Shouldnt Sanji, who is a Martial Artist, be focused more on hardening his body as much as possible, since it essentially his only weapon?

Seeing a hardcore AH using Martial Artist like Vergo really made Sanji look silly in comparison.
you no take candle
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 00:13:45
February 20 2014 00:13 GMT
#13600
Pretty sure they're both gonna have to learn both types of Haki eventually, since Luffy is gonna be Pirate King and all
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