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On December 12 2013 00:32 spaZps wrote: Yeah kind of funny. Dudes their is to example no Sichibukai, who knows how strong there are in comparison with an admiral. Some might be stronger. The same gos for Yonkou level. We just know Shanks and Whitebeard, where ridiclous strong and are abouve admirals. For the other 2, we dont know maybe luffy can take them on in an 1on1. And about the admiral level we still dont have clue Akainu and Ajoiki were the top of there class, we still dont know if the other are that strong kizura just didnt seemed that overpowered.
Isn't Yonkou purpose to maintain the order within the pirate world ? I don't see how a guy weaker than Luffy could do that when there probably are 100+ people stronger than him right now... Admirals must be Yonkou level too otherwise pirates would just rule the world
Dunno if it's right but I thought 1 Yonkou has the strength of the 3 Admirals (more or less), and since an alliance between Yonkous isn't really expected, it kinda balances the whole thing.
On December 12 2013 03:20 MMDT wrote: Who was Koala sitting on, anyone we know?
Just some random Doflamingo subordinates from the uniform, nobody important.
As to why Sugar doesn't age, I still think it has to do with the fact that she can't ever be unconscious (which might include sleeping), and has to take the weird things she keeps on eating, which prevent sleep and might also someone prevent her from growing.
You guys seem to forget that there is still a huge gap between the strengths of the admirals. Not to mention that even a weaker opponent may not be able to beat and admiral, bot they could fight 1v1 for a stretch of time. Is Marco as strong as any of the 3 admirals at Marineford? It looked like he could easily hold his own vs 2/3 admirals, individually. He seemed to struggle with just stopping Akainu's attack on the other hand.
On December 12 2013 02:40 Lysteria wrote: Dunno if it's right but I thought 1 Yonkou has the strength of the 3 Admirals (more or less), and since an alliance between Yonkous isn't really expected, it kinda balances the whole thing.
I don't think it's relevant to draw comparisons like that anyway. What is said in One Piece is this: the world balance is preserved through the Admirals, the Shichibukai and the Yonkou, but you have to factor in all the parameters, like crews/underlings, geographical positions, group cohesion (Admirals are mostly united, whereas Yonkou can enter in conflict between themselves, for example), organization (the Marine is well organized, whereas Shichibukai are kinda wild :D) It isn't really important to think of the leaders put into a 1-on-1 situation and trying to infer the world balance from that. I think that from what is shown, it's possible that single Yonkou > single Admiral > single Shichibukai in a 1v1 fight, though not really clear as to the order of magnitude.
On December 11 2013 19:53 DarkLordOlli wrote: Holy shit
Imagine if Burgess just fucks him up. Hype train derailed lol
Would be a super fail way for him to be introduced for sure. I'm seeing so many people saying Sabo's admiral level, SMH.
Rofl, there are like 10 characters that are admiral level, counting admiral and ex amiral in the lot. Please stop saying people are at Admiral level ;(
OMG I avoid the manga reader chapters due to poor translation, so always wait for the manga stream version. Therefore, I avoided this thread the other day, but can now safely join everyone in saying.... SABBBBBOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
On December 12 2013 03:59 ZenithM wrote: I don't think it's relevant to draw comparisons like that anyway.
My bad, I wanted to say that a Yonkou, including his crew, is somehow on the same level as the Marine alliance (with the Shichibukai considered a wild card). And since almost everyone is saying that Marco or Ben Beckman are weaker than an admiral, their boss has to be really damn strong to make up for.
After that, Oda plays really well by not giving us true informations about power levels, and that's nice, especially since we saw a lot of "upsets" during the 700+ chapters. Pure strength and duel situations mean nothing.
So there's this theory going around that people are not allowed to leave their homes at night and Toys have to be at the factory at night because when sugar is asleep the toys return to their original bodies. Personally I doubt that they turn back human when she's asleep because toysoldier put emphasis on getting her unconscious but I think that "curfew rule" is certainly related to her.
On December 12 2013 04:21 AsnSensation wrote: So there's this theory going around that people are not allowed to leave their homes at night and Toys have to be at the factory at night because when sugar is asleep the toys return to their original bodies. Personally I doubt that they turn back human when she's asleep because toysoldier put emphasis on getting her unconscious but I think that "curfew rule" is certainly related to her.
Yeah I don't think that theory is correct. Toy soldier has been out of the factory forever and hasn't changed back to a human yet. Unless after all these chapters it's still the same day. I sometimes lose sense of time when reading the chapters so don't know how many days have even passed since they've been on dressora.
On December 12 2013 04:21 AsnSensation wrote: So there's this theory going around that people are not allowed to leave their homes at night and Toys have to be at the factory at night because when sugar is asleep the toys return to their original bodies. Personally I doubt that they turn back human when she's asleep because toysoldier put emphasis on getting her unconscious but I think that "curfew rule" is certainly related to her.
Yeah I don't think that theory is correct. Toy soldier has been out of the factory forever and hasn't changed back to a human yet. Unless after all these chapters it's still the same day. I sometimes lose sense of time when reading the chapters so don't know how many days have even passed since they've been on dressora.
I'm pretty sure its been the same day since they've met the toy soldier. Apart from that, at night the toys are almost certainly working in the factory, but there might be something beyond that. I'd totally forgotten about the curfew rule though.
The theory is certainly interesting, but if the people actually returned to their original bodies, wouldn't everyone remember them during the night?
On December 12 2013 03:20 MMDT wrote: Who was Koala sitting on, anyone we know?
Just some random Doflamingo subordinates from the uniform, nobody important.
As to why Sugar doesn't age, I still think it has to do with the fact that she can't ever be unconscious (which might include sleeping), and has to take the weird things she keeps on eating, which prevent sleep and might also someone prevent her from growing.
Maybe I'm recalling incorrectly but wasn't there a curfew on toys after dark? Perhaps when she sleeps the process slowly reverts, but not enough to fully return before she wakes up again
On December 12 2013 03:20 MMDT wrote: Who was Koala sitting on, anyone we know?
Just some random Doflamingo subordinates from the uniform, nobody important.
As to why Sugar doesn't age, I still think it has to do with the fact that she can't ever be unconscious (which might include sleeping), and has to take the weird things she keeps on eating, which prevent sleep and might also someone prevent her from growing.
Maybe I'm recalling incorrectly but wasn't there a curfew on toys after dark? Perhaps when she sleeps the process slowly reverts, but not enough to fully return before she wakes up again
The curfew was really strict too IIRC, this seems like a very good prediction. But if it were true then woulnd't it be better to attack at night?
On December 12 2013 04:21 AsnSensation wrote: So there's this theory going around that people are not allowed to leave their homes at night and Toys have to be at the factory at night because when sugar is asleep the toys return to their original bodies. Personally I doubt that they turn back human when she's asleep because toysoldier put emphasis on getting her unconscious but I think that "curfew rule" is certainly related to her.
Yeah I don't think that theory is correct. Toy soldier has been out of the factory forever and hasn't changed back to a human yet. Unless after all these chapters it's still the same day. I sometimes lose sense of time when reading the chapters so don't know how many days have even passed since they've been on dressora.
that was also my biggest problem with it, that everyone would regain their memories of the toys and lose them again in the morning, it seems unlikely but still there has to be a reason why people have to stay in their homes and all the toys have to be at the factory at night and I assume it's most likely related to sugar.
On December 12 2013 04:32 Diavlo wrote: Jesus I skimmed this chapter distractedly and came to the conclusion that the mysterious guy was actually Bon chan.
EPT
