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On October 09 2013 20:08 Zholistic wrote:
That DD has an honorable side with respect to his nakama makes me think we could end up with him being forced to help Law and Luffy take down Kaido somehow; ie they don't end up defeating DD but using his weaknesses to force him to their ends.
I dunno, that doesn't sound like something Luffy or Law would do after the little reveal about Law and DD 13 years ago. Law is the type though, and Oda works in mysterious ways...
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Has anyone considered that Oda might pull more politics on us(in the game of thrones sense)?
Changing alliances, betrayals, intrigues and characters that don't just vanish after their arc.
Law is only the second character meeting the strawhats again after their introduction arc. The other one was Buggy.
I'm obviously omitting those who appeared in Impel Down as prisoners or the Shichi Bukai appearing during the Marineford War. Those were required for continuity.
On the other hand we have for the first time a limited number of known big enemies(4 Yonkou), for the first time a known third party(Kidd alliance) and for the first time a sympathetic story arc boss(Doflamingo cares for his crew).
Especially Doflamingo and the 4 Yonkou all have been known, at least by name, for ages already.
I wouldn't put it past Law or Doflamingo to change sides. Or Caesar Clown for that matter. One can dream.
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Please don't insult One Piece by comparing it to game of thrones or Oda to grrm
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Austria24417 Posts
I would love that and I think Oda is heading in the more politically complex direction. I expect the Strawhats to still have the same personalities though and that'd be what still makes Luffy special. While everyone around him is dead serious, plotting things, etc. he's just enjoying the ride, having fun but all the while extremely determined to beat up any assholes that cross paths with him and try something funny.
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On October 09 2013 19:03 freewareplayer wrote:
Anyone else thinks that DD doesnt seem to be as bad/evil as other villains or Heavenly Dragons after this chapter?
When Law threatenend the fat art Lady DD looked concerned/angry and her reply implies that at least she thinks DD would care about her and temporarly stop attacking.
People that dont care about their own subordinates are usually what enrages Luffy the most, apart from people hurting his friends.
well he has been kidnapping children so he can give them to caeser for his inhumane human experiments
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Is Dofla really the first arc boos who cares about his underlings? Tbh I can´t remember anyone who did care, but I don´t think Dofla is really the first one who shows feelings for his underlings. What kind of sense is this? I doubt it will save him from getting his ass kicked.
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Austria24417 Posts
Well Arlong did care but only because he was a racist
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On October 09 2013 22:56 Big-t wrote:
Is Dofla really the first arc boos who cares about his underlings? Tbh I can´t remember anyone who did care, but I don´t think Dofla is really the first one who shows feelings for his underlings. What kind of sense is this? I doubt it will save him from getting his ass kicked.
Maybe the CP9, if you consider the boss was Lucci and not Spandam.
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On October 09 2013 22:43 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 19:03 freewareplayer wrote:
Anyone else thinks that DD doesnt seem to be as bad/evil as other villains or Heavenly Dragons after this chapter?
When Law threatenend the fat art Lady DD looked concerned/angry and her reply implies that at least she thinks DD would care about her and temporarly stop attacking.
People that dont care about their own subordinates are usually what enrages Luffy the most, apart from people hurting his friends. well he has been kidnapping children so he can give them to caeser for his inhumane human experiments
Yeh i know, and i dont think he will turn out to be a good guy at all.
Buuuut, if we think about it, it might as well be that DD is somehow getting forced/blackmailed by Kaidou.
I mean, if there is people blowing up the factory for SAD, obviously thats sorta DD´s responsability but instantly personally getting murdered by Kaidou does seem a bit excessive does it not? Maybe there is more that we dont know.
Not saying its likely tho.
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On October 09 2013 23:11 Lysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 22:56 Big-t wrote:
Is Dofla really the first arc boos who cares about his underlings? Tbh I can´t remember anyone who did care, but I don´t think Dofla is really the first one who shows feelings for his underlings. What kind of sense is this? I doubt it will save him from getting his ass kicked. Maybe the CP9, if you consider the boss was Lucci and not Spandam.
Lucci personally killed one of his underlings.
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On October 09 2013 23:35 gedatsu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 23:11 Lysteria wrote:On October 09 2013 22:56 Big-t wrote:
Is Dofla really the first arc boos who cares about his underlings? Tbh I can´t remember anyone who did care, but I don´t think Dofla is really the first one who shows feelings for his underlings. What kind of sense is this? I doubt it will save him from getting his ass kicked. Maybe the CP9, if you consider the boss was Lucci and not Spandam. Lucci personally killed one of his underlings.
Obviously murder out of love.
Just kidding.
I am pretty sure Doflamingo is the first to care for his underlings. It could be that Blackbeard does too, but we don't know yet.
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On October 09 2013 19:36 BurningSera wrote:
It is very interesting to see that sanji's training/upgrade is not complete yet, now hope that oda wont just give him the fire fruit so easily lol (or give him the fruit at all)
Yea, u see Franky, become so buff, with beam as ultimate attack and a REAL robot.
But Sanji is Skywalk  . . . .It doesnt give me the epic feel..
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On October 09 2013 13:17 terranghost wrote:
Am I the only 1 who saw the log and thought of the body replacement jutsu from naruto. I thought of that then felt like giving yself a concussion on y desk after thinking such.
Looked to me that he used the momentum of the log to propel him faster through the air. Usually he just swaps places with air, but that's not as fast evidently. I didn't think of Naruto until I read this.
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On October 09 2013 23:23 freewareplayer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 22:43 Forikorder wrote:On October 09 2013 19:03 freewareplayer wrote:
Anyone else thinks that DD doesnt seem to be as bad/evil as other villains or Heavenly Dragons after this chapter?
When Law threatenend the fat art Lady DD looked concerned/angry and her reply implies that at least she thinks DD would care about her and temporarly stop attacking.
People that dont care about their own subordinates are usually what enrages Luffy the most, apart from people hurting his friends. well he has been kidnapping children so he can give them to caeser for his inhumane human experiments Yeh i know, and i dont think he will turn out to be a good guy at all. Buuuut, if we think about it, it might as well be that DD is somehow getting forced/blackmailed by Kaidou. I mean, if there is people blowing up the factory for SAD, obviously thats sorta DD´s responsability but instantly personally getting murdered by Kaidou does seem a bit excessive does it not? Maybe there is more that we dont know. Not saying its likely tho.
tahts impossible, Dofla invented the smiles with Caesor theres no way Kaidou forced him to create artificial zoan fruits
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On October 10 2013 00:34 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 23:23 freewareplayer wrote:On October 09 2013 22:43 Forikorder wrote:On October 09 2013 19:03 freewareplayer wrote:
Anyone else thinks that DD doesnt seem to be as bad/evil as other villains or Heavenly Dragons after this chapter?
When Law threatenend the fat art Lady DD looked concerned/angry and her reply implies that at least she thinks DD would care about her and temporarly stop attacking.
People that dont care about their own subordinates are usually what enrages Luffy the most, apart from people hurting his friends. well he has been kidnapping children so he can give them to caeser for his inhumane human experiments Yeh i know, and i dont think he will turn out to be a good guy at all. Buuuut, if we think about it, it might as well be that DD is somehow getting forced/blackmailed by Kaidou. I mean, if there is people blowing up the factory for SAD, obviously thats sorta DD´s responsability but instantly personally getting murdered by Kaidou does seem a bit excessive does it not? Maybe there is more that we dont know. Not saying its likely tho. tahts impossible, Dofla invented the smiles with Caesor theres no way Kaidou forced him to create artificial zoan fruits
True, but it doesnt mean that he is not blackmailed/forced by Kaidou. If i remember correctly DD only provides the artificial fruits to Kaidou, usually an open market always gives you the best price as a seller so why only to him?
Again, im not even saying im convinced myself that this is the case, but its definetly not impossible.
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I have a hard time believing a former CD would find it acceptable being blackmailed/forced into something by anyone. It's probably more the case of DD not wanting to be unable to fulfill his promises and facing the consequences of such an event (you don't deliver on your deal -> face destruction).
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On October 10 2013 01:48 freewareplayer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 00:34 Forikorder wrote:On October 09 2013 23:23 freewareplayer wrote:On October 09 2013 22:43 Forikorder wrote:On October 09 2013 19:03 freewareplayer wrote:
Anyone else thinks that DD doesnt seem to be as bad/evil as other villains or Heavenly Dragons after this chapter?
When Law threatenend the fat art Lady DD looked concerned/angry and her reply implies that at least she thinks DD would care about her and temporarly stop attacking.
People that dont care about their own subordinates are usually what enrages Luffy the most, apart from people hurting his friends. well he has been kidnapping children so he can give them to caeser for his inhumane human experiments Yeh i know, and i dont think he will turn out to be a good guy at all. Buuuut, if we think about it, it might as well be that DD is somehow getting forced/blackmailed by Kaidou. I mean, if there is people blowing up the factory for SAD, obviously thats sorta DD´s responsability but instantly personally getting murdered by Kaidou does seem a bit excessive does it not? Maybe there is more that we dont know. Not saying its likely tho. tahts impossible, Dofla invented the smiles with Caesor theres no way Kaidou forced him to create artificial zoan fruits True, but it doesnt mean that he is not blackmailed/forced by Kaidou. If i remember correctly DD only provides the artificial fruits to Kaidou, usually an open market always gives you the best price as a seller so why only to him? Again, im not even saying im convinced myself that this is the case, but its definetly not impossible.
Kaidou probably just pays the best price plus a little extra for exclusivity
there probably not massproducing these things like there pokemon theres probably a pretty limited stock and Kaidou makes sure he gets first dibs
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On October 09 2013 17:57 Zholistic wrote:
My prediction for Kaido is some sort of giant kraken or squid. Strongest beast in a water world?
Nah man, he's going to be an Apatosaurus.
I don't think Law will die. I think it'll be robin 2.0 where he joins the Straw Hats on a whim and then leaves, only to have Luffy rescue his ass and kindle their friendship. Also I want to see Law + Luffy vs Kaidou.
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I think it's very amusing how Law warns Dofla about underestimating strawhats, but I feel like Law's doing the same (with the dissolving of the alliance thing)
I also wonder why it's so certain that Kaidou will go after Dofla just because Dofla can't produce any more Smile. It's like Dofla is on a very tight leash, I wonder why and I wonder if it has something to do with his past. I mean, why waste resources when you can just keep Dofla under your control, especially given how useful he seems to be even without Smile?
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Doflamingo and Kaidou have some sort of business deal. If their deal (whatever it is) gets broken, of course Kaidou would get upset. And we are talking about vicious pirates here. If Kaidou feels slighted/cheated/betrayed by DD not upholding his end of their deal, its no surprise Kaidou would retaliate.
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