• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:39
CET 23:39
KST 07:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview2RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1834
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Innova Crysta on Hire
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2277 users

[Manga] One Piece - Page 1316

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1314 1315 1316 1317 1318 1663 Next
This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2016 22:15 GMT
#26301
I thought Bobbin would be a bigger deal since he allegedly soloed a country earlier but I guess he's just another underling. Guess it just goes to show how strong yonko crews are.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 02 2016 23:16 GMT
#26302
I think Pudding is evil. Consider what we know. Pudding met Luffy, and they agreed to meet at the coast of Whole Cake Island with Sanji. While obviously that didn't happen, we also now know that promise was impossible to start with, and Pudding would have known that. At the time Sanji was with the Vinsmokes, afterall.

Yet someone else DID know about that meetup point. There was a doppleganger of Sanji waiting on the coast, tricking them onto the island, luring Luffy into a trap in the Seducing Woods, and his eventual battle with Cracker. The only way this could have happened would be if Pudding set them up.

And now, when Sanji is backed into a corner and needs to go help Luffy... Pudding comes in hot to seduce him, and convince Sanji to go forward with the marriage. I suspect the goal here would be keeping Sanji from going to help Luffy, and ultimately leaving the crew and become part of Big Mom's, as a backup plan in case Luffy overcomes the Army that has come after him.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 02 2016 23:57 GMT
#26303
Ugh, I hate it all. Sanji being scorned by a woman like that seems too cruel. ~_~ But it's One Piece and I feel like thats probably where this'll end up since their romance being real seems a little out of the pace of One Piece, I suppose they could stay engaged while he goes off but that feels unlikely.

I dunno. I hope shes not evil, but I think a fair amounts points to her being fucking Hitler McSatan and it starts to make me hate her already.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 02 2016 23:59 GMT
#26304
At the very least, whatever she is doing right now is antagonistic to the Strawhats. MAYBE Sanji will pull another Viola, and get her to change sides, so to speak. But right now, this is a Sanji vs Pudding fight, and Pudding is winning.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 03 2016 00:09 GMT
#26305
I mean how does Sanji win against a nice pretty lady?

I'm actually legitimately curious about Zef's situation and whether or not we're going to see him come through during this arc in person or if hes gonna be on Den Den Mushi or something. I mean they cant bring him up and not have him either kick some Germa ass or do SOMETHING to prove hes safe, right?

Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 00:46:29
November 03 2016 00:43 GMT
#26306
It would serve the story well for Pudding to be evil and would make sense though I don't want it to be true. Pudding seems to the be first woman Sanji has actually connected over more than just lust. Heck Viola only ended up trusting Sanji because she read his mind and found out he was pervert not a schemer. Robin and Nami ignore Sanji or manipulate him which to be fair is mostly because Sanji can't talk to them normally. Pudding seems to be the first one Sanji actually connects with over their shared prisoner like situation.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 03 2016 01:03 GMT
#26307
Pudding is definitely manipulating Sanji into going through with the marriage. She's not actually done anything 'good' as of yet. As pointed out, she did lure them into the ambush in the forest with the promise of Sanji being there.

Oh and Sanji's reasoning is retarded.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2547 Posts
November 03 2016 02:40 GMT
#26308
It'd be awesome if Luffy pulls a "Guts" and is the last man standing in the morning.
####
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 03 2016 03:08 GMT
#26309
I don't trust Pudding at all
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
November 03 2016 04:25 GMT
#26310
Was half expecting some "next nakama" stuff. Last year's trend? I'm out of the loop.

Big Mom does seem to have a tendency of producing horrible children, but Lola wasn't that bad, so... *shrug*
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 03 2016 06:02 GMT
#26311
Prediction time.

Luffy solo the army.
Big ma goes into a rage.
Sanji saves the day by making a dish nobody else can make
You figure out what happens next, probably solves everything just like that

Calling it. It's the only way out of this situation
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 03 2016 06:17 GMT
#26312
On November 03 2016 15:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Prediction time.

Luffy solo the army.
Big ma goes into a rage.
Sanji saves the day by making a dish nobody else can make
You figure out what happens next, probably solves everything just like that

Calling it. It's the only way out of this situation


judges comment "i gurantee it will be a day none of us forget" makes me think that the conspiracy is gonna explode tomorrow during the ceremony, maybe something like an assasination attempt on Mama, he may want her fruit to put souls into his mass produced dolls

im guessing Luffy is going to be fighting solo all night against the army then theres gonna be some huge explosion or something and the army is gonna go "oh shit WTF was that" and leave to figure out what happened and then Luffy follows to get sanji out of there
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 11:23:05
November 03 2016 11:15 GMT
#26313
The one thing I'm worried about is that this becomes some Naruto-esque stuff with Luffy fighting 15 people and an army in a row but plot armor taking him through. I don't believe Oda is the type, but so far he's beaten a Yonko's right hand man, taken a beating from Sanji and now he's fighting an army. Yet he's nowhere near reaching Sanji and presumably will have to fight Big Mom at the end. He will have help no doubt, since that is what One Piece does, but as it stands he shouldn't be able to survive another fight. Hopefully Oda doesn't forget about that.

As for Pudding, how possible is it that Sanji has already figured out that she's trying to screw them over? He's an intelligent man, he could have put the pieces together. Pudding told Luffy to meet her at the beach, but Cracker showed up. That's suspicious, no matter how you look at it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 03 2016 11:40 GMT
#26314
I think someone is gonna knock his ass out and carry him outta there 'cause if the angry army is what Big Mom sends out when people beat her commanders surely the army itself must be stronger than a commander? So Luffy would likely stand almost no chance since he had a hard time with just Cracker let alone a follow up army.

I vote he gets knocked out and then the forest carries him elsewhere.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 03 2016 11:43 GMT
#26315
On November 03 2016 20:15 Olli wrote:
The one thing I'm worried about is that this becomes some Naruto-esque stuff with Luffy fighting 15 people and an army in a row but plot armor taking him through. I don't believe Oda is the type, but so far he's beaten a Yonko's right hand man, taken a beating from Sanji and now he's fighting an army. Yet he's nowhere near reaching Sanji and presumably will have to fight Big Mom at the end. He will have help no doubt, since that is what One Piece does, but as it stands he shouldn't be able to survive another fight. Hopefully Oda doesn't forget about that.

As for Pudding, how possible is it that Sanji has already figured out that she's trying to screw them over? He's an intelligent man, he could have put the pieces together. Pudding told Luffy to meet her at the beach, but Cracker showed up. That's suspicious, no matter how you look at it.


I'm 99% sure that the rest of what's going to happen in this arc will be due to the action of other people besides Luffy.

I think that Luffy is going to be a badass by really waiting for Sanji to come, without moving an inch. Sanji is going to be a badass by somehow resolving his problems (basically cuffs + zeff as hostage) and then coming back.

I also predict that Capone is going to make a move which stirs shit up, also there a few other wild cards which we aren't sure what are up to: Chopper, Carrot, Brook, Jaguar-guy, Jinbe and his crew. Pudding and Reiju are two other wild cards.

I predict something such as the end of Germa 66 and the BM crew losing whatever it is that allows them to hold Zeff hostage so easily.

If you look at it from Sanji's perspective, what he's doing makes sense. He shows that he's not willing to hit a woman, even if he dies. Because Zeff acknowledged him as his son. He'd rather die than see that acknowledgement go. He'd also rather leave the crew than see Zeff harmed. Sanji can't do anything because he doesn't know what asset precisely allows BM's crew to hold the Sword of Damocles over Zeff. Until he figures that out, he can't do anything.

Overall, a very amazing development here. This arc is nothing to sneeze at.
maru lover forever
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18563 Posts
November 03 2016 12:09 GMT
#26316
On November 03 2016 20:15 Olli wrote:
The one thing I'm worried about is that this becomes some Naruto-esque stuff with Luffy fighting 15 people and an army in a row but plot armor taking him through. I don't believe Oda is the type, but so far he's beaten a Yonko's right hand man, taken a beating from Sanji and now he's fighting an army. Yet he's nowhere near reaching Sanji and presumably will have to fight Big Mom at the end. He will have help no doubt, since that is what One Piece does, but as it stands he shouldn't be able to survive another fight. Hopefully Oda doesn't forget about that.

As for Pudding, how possible is it that Sanji has already figured out that she's trying to screw them over? He's an intelligent man, he could have put the pieces together. Pudding told Luffy to meet her at the beach, but Cracker showed up. That's suspicious, no matter how you look at it.


Really? You are worried about that? I'd never expect Oda to do such stupid things. It's clear that Luffy is at his limit and he definitely won't beat another commander without rest time.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
November 03 2016 13:18 GMT
#26317
On November 03 2016 20:40 Zambrah wrote:
I think someone is gonna knock his ass out and carry him outta there 'cause if the angry army is what Big Mom sends out when people beat her commanders surely the army itself must be stronger than a commander? So Luffy would likely stand almost no chance since he had a hard time with just Cracker let alone a follow up army.

I vote he gets knocked out and then the forest carries him elsewhere.

Yeah I'm guessing that's what will happen to. We've all forgotten about Jinbei and he fits the description for that type of character.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 03 2016 13:36 GMT
#26318
On November 03 2016 13:25 Vortok wrote:
Was half expecting some "next nakama" stuff. Last year's trend? I'm out of the loop.

Big Mom does seem to have a tendency of producing horrible children, but Lola wasn't that bad, so... *shrug*

Lola wasn't so bad, but she also left home. Maybe shes a runaway?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
November 03 2016 14:12 GMT
#26319
On November 03 2016 20:43 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 20:15 Olli wrote:
The one thing I'm worried about is that this becomes some Naruto-esque stuff with Luffy fighting 15 people and an army in a row but plot armor taking him through. I don't believe Oda is the type, but so far he's beaten a Yonko's right hand man, taken a beating from Sanji and now he's fighting an army. Yet he's nowhere near reaching Sanji and presumably will have to fight Big Mom at the end. He will have help no doubt, since that is what One Piece does, but as it stands he shouldn't be able to survive another fight. Hopefully Oda doesn't forget about that.

As for Pudding, how possible is it that Sanji has already figured out that she's trying to screw them over? He's an intelligent man, he could have put the pieces together. Pudding told Luffy to meet her at the beach, but Cracker showed up. That's suspicious, no matter how you look at it.


I'm 99% sure that the rest of what's going to happen in this arc will be due to the action of other people besides Luffy.

I think that Luffy is going to be a badass by really waiting for Sanji to come, without moving an inch. Sanji is going to be a badass by somehow resolving his problems (basically cuffs + zeff as hostage) and then coming back.

I also predict that Capone is going to make a move which stirs shit up, also there a few other wild cards which we aren't sure what are up to: Chopper, Carrot, Brook, Jaguar-guy, Jinbe and his crew. Pudding and Reiju are two other wild cards.

I predict something such as the end of Germa 66 and the BM crew losing whatever it is that allows them to hold Zeff hostage so easily.

If you look at it from Sanji's perspective, what he's doing makes sense. He shows that he's not willing to hit a woman, even if he dies. Because Zeff acknowledged him as his son. He'd rather die than see that acknowledgement go. He'd also rather leave the crew than see Zeff harmed. Sanji can't do anything because he doesn't know what asset precisely allows BM's crew to hold the Sword of Damocles over Zeff. Until he figures that out, he can't do anything.

Overall, a very amazing development here. This arc is nothing to sneeze at.


Great post, you really put my thoughts into words. I just wonder who all the players involved in the conspiracy are and what their trump card is. I mean they have HUGE balls to go after Big Mom and I guess they wouldn't do this without a good reason. The wedding has to have outside agents stirring stuff up since everyone from the Straw Hat crew has their hands tied up.

I can't recall who that Bobbin character is and if he's strong or not... can someone refresh my memory?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 03 2016 14:40 GMT
#26320
If hes who I think he is, hes one of Big Mom's subordinates with the mask. When Big Mom was first introduced, he was seen coming into her room, informing her that a country that couldn't pay its Sweets tax was destroyed.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Prev 1 1314 1315 1316 1317 1318 1663 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 454
JuggernautJason150
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18179
Shuttle 158
firebathero 114
Dota 2
syndereN465
Pyrionflax213
Counter-Strike
FalleN 4708
fl0m1325
Foxcn141
Other Games
tarik_tv10735
gofns6138
FrodaN4880
summit1g3728
Grubby3371
Liquid`RaSZi2536
Beastyqt593
shahzam437
Liquid`Hasu340
B2W.Neo338
Harstem289
Mlord287
KnowMe232
C9.Mang0210
ToD208
mouzStarbuck201
XaKoH 166
ZombieGrub43
Ketroc14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2539
BasetradeTV70
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 32
• RyuSc2 8
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 31
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2854
League of Legends
• Doublelift2320
• TFBlade1814
Other Games
• imaqtpie2594
• Shiphtur198
Upcoming Events
All-Star Invitational
3h 36m
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
13h 21m
AI Arena Tournament
21h 21m
All-Star Invitational
1d 3h
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 11h
OSC
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.