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Lots of things explained here, cool chapter.
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Merany
France890 Posts
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/835/3580/1 Lots of things explained here, cool chapter. | ||
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LennX
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Lola returns. In a way. Interesting progression this week. At least we know more now and can theorycraft better | ||
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Ej_
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I guess it confirms that Chiffon and Lola are twin sisters? | ||
Olli
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
Seems like we're running out of fruit ideas. I mean even the mirror lady seems like a spinoff of Blueno and/or Bartolomeo. Also, what is it with Japanese people and their obsession with "souls"? | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Elentos
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On August 04 2016 21:56 Hyperbola wrote: Big Mom's fruit = (Brooke's + Moriah's)/2 Seems like we're running out of fruit ideas. I mean even the mirror lady seems like a spinoff of Blueno and/or Bartolomeo. Also, what is it with Japanese people and their obsession with "souls"? I think it's been part of One Piece's natural progression that we get to see Devil Fruits with similar effects than ones we've seen before, but with major improvements. Like Akainu's fruit is just a better version of Ace's/Sabo's, Machvise's is a better version of Miss Valentine's, etc. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On August 04 2016 21:56 Hyperbola wrote: Big Mom's fruit = (Brooke's + Moriah's)/2 Seems like we're running out of fruit ideas. I mean even the mirror lady seems like a spinoff of Blueno and/or Bartolomeo. Also, what is it with Japanese people and their obsession with "souls"? Shouldn't be that surprising at this point. Dressrosa already showed that well. Remember that Bomb fruit, which was essentially a copy of Mr. 5? Or that Ton Ton fruit which was a copy of the Kilo Kilo fruit? | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 04 2016 21:56 Hyperbola wrote: Big Mom's fruit = (Brooke's + Moriah's)/2 Seems like we're running out of fruit ideas. I mean even the mirror lady seems like a spinoff of Blueno and/or Bartolomeo. Also, what is it with Japanese people and their obsession with "souls"? how? they are so different what are they similar because big mom and moria can both animate things? is that really all you need to say 2 fruits are the same? and how the fuck is a mirror similar to a door or a wall? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Also, no break next week?! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
On August 04 2016 22:46 Elentos wrote: Well let's see if Nami and Lola being BFFs amounts to anything in this arc. I think it's been part of One Piece's natural progression that we get to see Devil Fruits with similar effects than ones we've seen before, but with major improvements. Like Akainu's fruit is just a better version of Ace's/Sabo's, Machvise's is a better version of Miss Valentine's, etc. That actually makes sense how all of the good fruits wind up in the New world eventually. Though I can't help but feel the hand of the creator when we start seeing repeats so suddenly. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
On August 05 2016 00:54 Hyperbola wrote: That actually makes sense how all of the good fruits wind up in the New world eventually. Though I can't help but feel the hand of the creator when we start seeing repeats so suddenly. I don't really see how Mirror ladies fruit is like Bleuno and/ or Barto's to be honest. She doesn't put up a barrier at all, jsut has a mirror that can reflect some attacks, she can create copies of people and make herself look like them etc as well which is pretty different from those two. If anything she is closer to Bon-Chan copying ability with the tiniest sprinkle of Bartolomeo. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
She can create dimensional barriers. Dimensional in the sense that she can use them as portals to reflect/trap people and attacks... and barriers because, well they're barriers. Blueno's fruit comes to mind because he can open portals that are doors. But you also mentioned Bon chan's ability. So really she can create barriers, portals and mimic people/cast illusions. A combination of all three fruits. A pretty BAMF utility fruit if you ask me. In regards to Big Mom's fruit: she is basically Moriah from what we've seen so far except instead of taking a person's shadow (personality) she takes their soul (lifespan). That said, we don't know what other bullshit abilities she has in store. She may even be immortal by adding souls to her own. And she's probably awakened too. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 05 2016 05:14 Hyperbola wrote: Well here's my reasoning: She can create dimensional barriers. Dimensional in the sense that she can use them as portals to reflect/trap people and attacks... and barriers because, well they're barriers. Blueno's fruit comes to mind because he can open portals that are doors. But you also mentioned Bon chan's ability. So really she can create barriers, portals and mimic people/cast illusions. A combination of all three fruits. A pretty BAMF utility fruit if you ask me. from what we have seen so far she has the ability of creating one static mirror, the mirror is impregnable to attacks, can reflect attack made against it and can trap (at least) one person inside of it but the mirror (presumably) can only be as large as the O she makes with her arms at no point however did she demonstrate or state she had the ability to change her apearence, and since there are multiple other things with a changed apearance AND someone effecting the crews ability to leave the forest most likely its the rabbit whos using illusions or the son who just showed Bart can make a barrier of basically any size (though shape seems limited to rectangles) which (IIRC) has yet to be broken by anything Blueno can create a door in anything he touches and can only an "air door" into an "air world" that presumably ONLY he can enter (since we never saw anyone else enter nor him use it as a trap in anyway) how the hell are any of those fruits similar? In regards to Big Mom's fruit: she is basically Moriah from what we've seen so far except instead of taking a person's shadow (personality) she takes their soul (lifespan). That said, we don't know what other bullshit abilities she has in store. She may even be immortal by adding souls to her own. And she's probably awakened too. Moria has the ability to manipulate his shadow, he can also remove other peoples shadows and implant it into other corpses/people to bestow the originals ability into that corpse/person (at great risk to whoever lost his shadow) Big Mom has the ability to remove peoples "lifespans" implant that "lifespan" into anything but a corpse and can create those wierd blob things that have the same power most likely theres more to it but i so far see very little similarities aside from taking something from someone and implanting it into someone else, in which case Morias, moms and laws fruit are all basically the same since Law can do that too | ||
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Elentos
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
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Sentenal
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 05 2016 13:08 Sentenal wrote: There are some pretty clear, obvious parallels between Big Mom's ability and Moria's, I dunno how anyone can dispute that. Oda even added the line there "Just to be clear, you can't put the souls into corpses or into someone else's body!" just to try and point out how its different, so not to seem completely the same. if big mom and morias abilities are similar then youd have to say the same for laws since he can take something from someone and implant it into something else too | ||
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