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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
September 05 2012 17:36 GMT
#10981
Nah just the ones that are alive they killed the normal ones
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 05 2012 17:37 GMT
#10982
On September 06 2012 00:25 sharkie wrote:
doesnt this "using too much sharingan" apply only to amateratsu?


Its like Bullets in movies, they only run out when its plot convenient
Never Knows Best.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 05 2012 17:38 GMT
#10983
incoming Sasuke/Naruto tagteam?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 05 2012 17:40 GMT
#10984
On September 06 2012 02:38 hooahah wrote:
incoming Sasuke/Naruto tagteam?


u mean obito+madara+sasuke ?
starleague forever
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
September 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#10985
So they still haven't even explained how Rin died, but still kind of crazy that two team members would "die" when under the care of Minato.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
September 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#10986
On September 06 2012 02:40 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 02:38 hooahah wrote:
incoming Sasuke/Naruto tagteam?


u mean obito+madara+sasuke ?

Nah, it's obviously Oro/Sasuke vs Madara/Obito after the shinobi alliance gets destroyed.
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
September 05 2012 17:50 GMT
#10987
All you guys that are talking about the eye that should go blind...
It may aswell be the eternal mangekyo, did you all forget about this or something?!?
amaDeus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany205 Posts
September 05 2012 17:54 GMT
#10988
On September 06 2012 02:50 wonnaplay wrote:
All you guys that are talking about the eye that should go blind...
It may aswell be the eternal mangekyo, did you all forget about this or something?!?


well the thing is: he's using his own. cause it doesnt have the symbol of another one in it. and as it seems this dimension transfer is an "obito-eye-only" feature. so yes, technically, he should be blind.
Sankanyo
Profile Joined August 2011
United States140 Posts
September 05 2012 18:04 GMT
#10989
watch kisi make up a bs sharingan technique thats does more of the impossible lol
but on a serious note, i think oro has something to do with this
maybe he used obito's corpse and injected some madara dna in one of his labs lol
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
September 05 2012 18:12 GMT
#10990
Madara was ALIVE since he knows obito. Madara died sometime between the start of naruto and the battle with the 1st hokage but the hairstyle in the uchiha clan massacre seems a lot like madara and also the grudge against the uchiha clan, but tobis attack on konoha uses obitos techniques so it's awfully confusing.

Remember its
Obito dies
Kyuubi attacks
Uchiha clan massascre
Naruto
Naruto Shippudden
In time line


EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
September 05 2012 18:13 GMT
#10991
Well this is messed up.
Dear Sixsmith...
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
September 05 2012 18:21 GMT
#10992
On September 06 2012 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:41 Heh_ wrote:
On September 06 2012 01:37 Fumanchu wrote:
You guys are all crazy, obito's didn't start this war because rin died. Obito started the war because he didn't like the fact that in this current reality it was possible for the things you love the most to be stripped away from you regardless of your own free will. It wasn't just one instance, it was a multiple of instances affecting a variety of people, however, rin was the catalyst.

Haven't you guys ever watched a movie that started out great, sucked in the middle, and then ended with a bunch of twists and turns that left you sitting on the edge of your seat? Have a little patience, things might turn out okay.

You're jumping to even more conclusions than anyone in this thread.

Yeah, Naruto started out great, sucked in the middle, and then ended with a bunch of twists and turns that caused everybody to fall out of their chairs. Twists and turns are not the same thing as glaring plotholes.


What plotholes?

The edo tensei plot hole, after that, what's the plotholes? All there is in this thread is people who don't have the full explanation assuming there won't be one. Of course there will be one.


There will be an explanation but people doubt that it will be sufficient and explain all the questions that arose and I am one of these doubters.

Too many things have been unsatisfying or unexplained with Shippuuden:

- Itachi a good guy? To me this is th emost glaring. So he slaughtered his family. And the explanation was that he did it to prevent a potential conflict between his family and the Leaf? So he just killed them so no conflict can arise? Then he killed dozens of other innocent people, served a criminal organization of murderers for ~10 years and helped delivering the strongest weapons (tailed beasts) to the evil mastermind. And the explanation was he did that to make Sasuke strong. Yeah, these are explanations but shitty ones.
- The Edo Tensai thing you mentioned yourself.
- The whole "Zombies fight their former friends" arc was very bad and boring storytelling.
- fucking Sharingan. I am not even a Sasuke or Uchiha hater but come on, this is just way too much. It was already ridiculous before a few months ago but Izanami and Izanagi were just bullshit.

I mean it is possible that Kishi comes up with something effing brilliant and we will be all like "oh how come we didn't see that one coming" but based on experience with his recent writing I expect it to leave many things unsolved or even flat out contradictionary. Especially those things that created the suspense in the first place.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 05 2012 18:24 GMT
#10993
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 18:29:49
September 05 2012 18:27 GMT
#10994
None of those things except for edo tensei are "plotholes". A plot hole is something that doesn't make sense under the previously established rules of the narutoverse. Zombies fighting their friends well I dunno the point of that but I guess it's to show the difference and how much the current characters have grown. The sharigan super powerful thing is because there are always 2 supreme powers in naruto the first was the eye powers and the second was the senju but in this case it's more like tailed beast jinchurrikis vs eye techniques because the only senju left is tsunande and distantly naruto.

About itachi being good or bad, well it depends on your definition of bad or bad. Itachi cares about Konoha and his brother. The uchicha WAS staging a coup d'etat and that's why they were having the meetings and Itachi was the spy for the higher ups of Konoha, so he slaughtered them to prevent the massive civil war. He served akatsuki to keep an eye on them and protect the 9 tails. I think itachi and kisame only got 1 tailed beast and they would have gotten naruto if Itachi hadn't stalled taking naruto by using the excuse that sasuke came in and he beat him up. Remember kisame was talking about cutting off narutos limbs? And itachi just said nothing and tried to stall.
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
September 05 2012 18:30 GMT
#10995
On September 06 2012 03:21 Fenrax wrote:
Too many things have been unsatisfying or unexplained with Shippuuden:

- Itachi a good guy? To me this is th emost glaring. So he slaughtered his family. And the explanation was that he did it to prevent a potential conflict between his family and the Leaf? So he just killed them so no conflict can arise? Then he killed dozens of other innocent people, served a criminal organization of murderers for ~10 years and helped delivering the strongest weapons (tailed beasts) to the evil mastermind. And the explanation was he did that to make Sasuke strong. Yeah, these are explanations but shitty ones.


Scuse me sir, but that was obvious since the Kakashi vs Itachi fight, when we first were introduced to Kisame.... He even smiled when Naruto bombed him with Odama-Rasengan. Also he staled the capture of the Kyuubi whenever he could, telling Kisame to slow down, there was enough time to capture him.


- The Edo Tensai thing you mentioned yourself.
- The whole "Zombies fight their former friends" arc was very bad and boring storytelling.
- fucking Sharingan. I am not even a Sasuke or Uchiha hater but come on, this is just way too much. It was already ridiculous before a few months ago but Izanami and Izanagi were just bullshit.

I mean it is possible that Kishi comes up with something effing brilliant and we will be all like "oh how come we didn't see that one coming" but based on experience with his recent writing I expect it to leave many things unsolved or even flat out contradictionary. Especially those things that created the suspense in the first place.


I agree on the rest. I truely hope Kishi gets his sh*t together again, because what he took years to build up is basicly destroyed in only a few chapters if he goes on like this. Can you remember the time when Hinata confesed her love to Naruto during Pain vs Naruto? Everyone was waiting for a conclusion. Kishi just dropped it right there...
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
September 05 2012 18:35 GMT
#10996
Well, end of the world takes priority over teenage love affairs, if you're the good guys that is. Naruto can bag hinata later and he probably wants to keep the tension between naruto + sakura//hinata because of all the crazy fangirls who will throw knives at him and stop reading the manga if he picks the one they don't like.
mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 18:53:28
September 05 2012 18:53 GMT
#10997
On September 06 2012 03:21 Fenrax wrote:

- Itachi a good guy?

yes. it was either they all die or he kills them in exchange for his brother's life
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
September 05 2012 18:54 GMT
#10998
On September 06 2012 03:30 Dekker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 03:21 Fenrax wrote:
Too many things have been unsatisfying or unexplained with Shippuuden:

- Itachi a good guy? To me this is th emost glaring. So he slaughtered his family. And the explanation was that he did it to prevent a potential conflict between his family and the Leaf? So he just killed them so no conflict can arise? Then he killed dozens of other innocent people, served a criminal organization of murderers for ~10 years and helped delivering the strongest weapons (tailed beasts) to the evil mastermind. And the explanation was he did that to make Sasuke strong. Yeah, these are explanations but shitty ones.


Scuse me sir, but that was obvious since the Kakashi vs Itachi fight, when we first were introduced to Kisame.... He even smiled when Naruto bombed him with Odama-Rasengan. Also he staled the capture of the Kyuubi whenever he could, telling Kisame to slow down, there was enough time to capture him.

Show nested quote +

- The Edo Tensai thing you mentioned yourself.
- The whole "Zombies fight their former friends" arc was very bad and boring storytelling.
- fucking Sharingan. I am not even a Sasuke or Uchiha hater but come on, this is just way too much. It was already ridiculous before a few months ago but Izanami and Izanagi were just bullshit.

I mean it is possible that Kishi comes up with something effing brilliant and we will be all like "oh how come we didn't see that one coming" but based on experience with his recent writing I expect it to leave many things unsolved or even flat out contradictionary. Especially those things that created the suspense in the first place.


I agree on the rest. I truely hope Kishi gets his sh*t together again, because what he took years to build up is basicly destroyed in only a few chapters if he goes on like this. Can you remember the time when Hinata confesed her love to Naruto during Pain vs Naruto? Everyone was waiting for a conclusion. Kishi just dropped it right there...


Hmm, I just re-read it and didn't find anything. When did Itachi tell Kisame to slow down? They just waited for a good chance to catch Naruto alone and it worked. But Sasuke appeared and delayed things (Itachi couldn't have known that). And if Jiraraya had been just a few seconds slower Kisame would have cut Naruto's legs off. I am still of the opinion that Itachi was designed as a bad guy in pre-Shippuuden Naruto and Kishi just changed it along the way.
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
September 05 2012 19:00 GMT
#10999
On September 06 2012 03:24 Dattish wrote:
I don't think Kamui is exclusive to Kakashi and Obito, just that Sasuke and Itachi never learned how to use it.


pretty sure Kamui is exclusive to Obito's eyes, because that's the main reason Kakashi was able to deduce Tobi's space/time ability and confirm Obito's identity. it's not unheard of that specific members of the Uchiha clan have sharingan abilities unique to a specific clan member, ie Shisui's Kotoamatsukami.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
September 05 2012 19:01 GMT
#11000
It itachi was bad they would have just taken naruto straight away. Itachi went out of his way to "punish" sasuke and Kisame bought it and thought he was just being cruel but it bought time for Jiraiya to come and Itachi convinced Kisame not to attack him when Jiraiyas there as well.
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