EPTWikipedia'd a bit: Faust also had to write to the E/I ("educational and informational") standards that Hasbro required of the show, making the crafting of some of the situations she would have normally done on other animated shows more difficult; for example, Faust cited having one character call another an "egghead" as "treading a very delicate line", and having one character cheat in a competition as "worrisome to some"
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
Wikipedia'd a bit: Faust also had to write to the E/I ("educational and informational") standards that Hasbro required of the show, making the crafting of some of the situations she would have normally done on other animated shows more difficult; for example, Faust cited having one character call another an "egghead" as "treading a very delicate line", and having one character cheat in a competition as "worrisome to some" | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:52 Nacl(Draq) wrote: Are the story writers of MLP adding more and more things into the show in order to give the large group of older generation watchers laughs? Like they did in Shrek with all the subtle hints that caused parents to enjoy the show but at same time still kept it funny for kids? I don't believe they are. I don't think any show element has been for us, if anything it has been for them themselves to show each other. | ||
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:52 Nacl(Draq) wrote: Are the story writers of MLP adding more and more things into the show in order to give the large group of older generation watchers laughs? Like they did in Shrek with all the subtle hints that caused parents to enjoy the show but at same time still kept it funny for kids? Y'know, people really, really like to bring up arguments about how the show has jokes and references that "would go over younger viewers' heads" (I swear 90% of the time it's that exact wording…) but I can't help but feel it's just being used as a flimsy justification rather than as an actual reason for watching and enjoying the show. I mean, they're entertaining and all, but as far as reactions and appeal go, it's more like "Hah, that's cool" before getting right back to the real meat and potatoes. Fans have interests very different from uninvested parents. | ||
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Zoundsforsook
Scotland636 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:52 Nacl(Draq) wrote: Are the story writers of MLP adding more and more things into the show in order to give the large group of older generation watchers laughs? Like they did in Shrek with all the subtle hints that caused parents to enjoy the show but at same time still kept it funny for kids? There is the occasional reference that is put in that would not be familiar to younger viewers certainly, but I think its more just fun for the staff of the show to put them in than directed at anyone in particular (The Big Lebowski ponies come to mind) | ||
Crisium
United States1618 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg831/scaled.php?server=831&filename=andrepony.png&res=medium) The Big Lebowski ponies, coming in Season 2, could be either to parents or bronies. Or a creator of the show is simply a fan. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/they+also+made+a+reference+to+The+Big+Lebowski+_36990b9dffcb9bea6f93c1757016d38c.jpg) The only thing the Brony community can truly claim is Ditzy Doo's name change. Virtually all of later season 1 and all of season 2 has nothing to do with our community. Though Discord = Q was utterly fantastic to us who watched TNG back in the day, but that coulda been for the parents, bronies, or simply a cool thing for the creators. | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:37 FnF wrote: Y'know, people really, really like to bring up arguments about how the show has jokes and references that "would go over younger viewers' heads" (I swear 90% of the time it's that exact wording…) but I can't help but feel it's just being used as a flimsy justification rather than as an actual reason for watching and enjoying the show. I mean, they're entertaining and all, but as far as reactions and appeal go, it's more like "Hah, that's cool" before getting right back to the real meat and potatoes. Fans have interests very different from uninvested parents. This, so much. If people go in expecting it to be subversive comedy from everyone telling them things like that, they will be disappointed. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
![[image loading]](http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/043/2/6/game_over_by_silvercyh-d4pglt9.png) http://silvercyh.deviantart.com/art/Game-Over-284629869 | ||
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Hacksu
Finland23 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:37 FnF wrote: Y'know, people really, really like to bring up arguments about how the show has jokes and references that "would go over younger viewers' heads" (I swear 90% of the time it's that exact wording…) but I can't help but feel it's just being used as a flimsy justification rather than as an actual reason for watching and enjoying the show. I mean, they're entertaining and all, but as far as reactions and appeal go, it's more like "Hah, that's cool" before getting right back to the real meat and potatoes. Fans have interests very different from uninvested parents. I think the "over younger audiences head" argument is only thrown in there after the respectable opposition ponders why we watch a so called "kid's show". Atleast thats how I've used it. | ||
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StarDragon
United States283 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + So here I'm a day late watching it due to work. So I look at the time its 10:15pm Sweet I can watch it and be to bed before 10:45. Well its midnight, and I finally turn off the tv.. wtf.. That song just killed me, "His girlfriend sure thinks so" I just died right there laughing. it was just so hilarious that I had to go back and rewatch and rewatch. Got addicted to it :D. Great episode, its one of the few that gave me that feeling that I got in season 1 ep's of watching MLP for the first time. Just grinned the whole time and had a blast, wouldn't give it up for anything. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d9uFT.jpg) Now to wonder eternally whether or not that was an intentional self-reference. | ||
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:19 Hacksu wrote: I think the "over younger audiences head" argument is only thrown in there after the respectable opposition ponders why we watch a so called "kid's show". Atleast thats how I've used it. Exactly. It's used as a justifying argument of "A reference to X proves this isn't a Kids' Show™, which means I'm allowed to watch it!", when the dynamics of audience appeal and engagement are far more complex than a black-and-white content threshold. All it comes across as is a kid tugging your sleeve while jumping up and down going "Look! Look! Adult Stuff™!" Trying to ride the "adult" parts means acknowledging the Kids'/Adult Show™ mindset, and a few references aren't gonna let you compete against whatever the other person has in mind for an Adult Show™. Our best bet here is in challenging the designations and breaking down the playing field into smaller axes. "What makes a kids' show?", essentially. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:35 Daralii wrote: So this was something that popped up on Reddit: Now to wonder eternally whether or not that was an intentional self-reference. They don't make all of the episodes in the order that they are aired I think, so that is probably a daring-do costume. Also, do is a dumb surname for a pony. | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
On February 14 2012 05:52 ampson wrote: They don't make all of the episodes in the order that they are aired I think, so that is probably a daring-do costume. Also, do is a dumb surname for a pony. It's a pun. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/derring-do.html | ||
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Camail
United States1030 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + [14:33] <+motbob> http://spark-strudel.deviantart.com/art/Takeoff-284605593 [14:33] <+Camail> bloody u mad bro!?!?!?!?!? [14:34] <+Camail> oh hey, I can link too [14:34] <+Bloodynoob> no [14:34] <+TheDoT42> where is sd? [14:34] <+Camail> http://opera-romance.deviantart.com/art/Hamony-284857177 [14:34] <+Bloodynoob> last time i use overlord over ahtch [14:34] <+Camail> http://sh2otingstar.deviantart.com/art/Hearts-and-Hooves-Day-284876580 [14:34] <+Bloodynoob> because its fucking retardet [14:34] <+Camail> http://durpy.deviantart.com/art/Lotusjack-vector-284887398 4 dub [14:34] <+Sermok> wow [14:34] <+Bloodynoob> you still need a drone [14:34] <+Sermok> xeris is insane [14:34] <+Camail> http://alexmakovsky.deviantart.com/art/Happy-Valentine-Day-Fluttershy-284887543 [14:34] <+Bloodynoob> to scout for that stuff [14:34] <+Camail> antoher 4 dub http://durpy.deviantart.com/art/Aloejack-vector-284887958 [14:34] <+Camail> http://sliverlynx.deviantart.com/art/Happy-Hearts-and-Hooves-Day-284615658 [14:34] <+Camail> http://misstickles.deviantart.com/art/Battlefoals-3-Rarity-284884961 [14:34] <+Sermok> hes a grad student is the comish of nasl and the manager of a team [14:35] <+Camail> http://x-tatik.deviantart.com/art/Be-My-Special-Somepony-284883792 [14:35] <+Camail> http://alexfan101.deviantart.com/art/MLP-Sunset-Pegasi-284878478 [14:35] <+Camail> http://leo3ooox.deviantart.com/art/My-little-Pony-RPG-game-quot-Time-battle-1-quot-284873715 [14:35] <+Camail> http://puzzle-of-life.deviantart.com/art/You-re-VERY-Familair-Pt-2-284873352 [14:35] <+Camail> http://lemguin.deviantart.com/art/Hey-Hey-Hey-284871018 lulz [14:35] <+Camail> http://ponykillerx.deviantart.com/art/Technology-284871244 [14:35] <+Camail> http://nazoth.deviantart.com/art/Vinyl-Scratch-Element-of-music-284871878 ooh [14:35] <+Camail> http://alsatianvdk.deviantart.com/art/My-little-Valentine-s-Day-284869749 [14:35] <+Camail> http://thiscrispykat.deviantart.com/art/Mein-Little-Kamfgruppe-Blitzkrieg-284870427 wat? [14:35] <+Camail> http://emma-hope.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-284870527 [14:35] <+Camail> http://chimerax11.deviantart.com/art/Canterlot-City-of-Stars-284860552 [14:36] <+Camail> http://kimikonyanchan.deviantart.com/art/Lyra-Has-Ze-Remote-284855123 [14:36] <+Camail> http://raikoh14.deviantart.com/art/L-s-a-Brony-284889091 ^_^ [14:36] == Frolossus [Frolossus@c-98-209-64-130.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tlponies [14:36] == mode/#tlponies [+v Frolossus] by GaryOak [14:36] <+Camail> http://veggie55.deviantart.com/art/Show-Time-284870314 [14:36] <+StarDragon> HOLY TRAFFIC! [14:36] <+Camail> http://churchs.deviantart.com/art/Applebloom-Portrait-284806258 [14:36] <+StarDragon> IM BACK [14:36] <+Camail> http://wolferahm.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-s-sandwich-shop-284806558 [14:36] <+TheDoT42> ur a bit late [14:36] <+Njunin> "a bit" [14:36] <+Camail> http://ruffu.deviantart.com/art/Surprise-284806666 [14:36] <+TheDoT42> lol [14:36] <+Camail> http://leafgrowth.deviantart.com/art/Well-that-was-awkward-284807792 [14:36] <+Camail> http://kamiase.deviantart.com/art/Total-Caos-284803457 [14:36] <+TheDoT42> u missed my only ever victory [14:36] <+Hsab> why can't i hold all these links [14:36] <+Camail> http://iraecoal.deviantart.com/art/Family-Stroll-284803597 [14:36] <+Camail> http://raikoh14.deviantart.com/art/Rainbow-Dash-and-FLuttershy-284851433 [14:37] <+Camail> http://evilfurry.deviantart.com/art/Nightmare-night-284851011 [14:37] <+Camail> http://tetrapony.deviantart.com/art/Derp-Drawing-284846282 [14:37] <+Camail> http://quadice.deviantart.com/art/Pinkie-and-Twilight-having-fun-in-cave-284848114 [14:37] <+Camail> http://tompprime.deviantart.com/art/Western-Applejack-284844894 [14:37] <+Camail> http://darth-franny.deviantart.com/art/Valentine-284832948 [14:37] <+Camail> http://silentbluefoxx.deviantart.com/art/me-gusta-la-gelatina-284819250 [14:37] <+TheDoT42> im hurt [14:37] <+Phearlock> My poor laptop can't hold all these links. 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[14:38] <+Yip> ^^ i have officially mastered lighting =D [14:38] <+Phearlock> Funnies & Twi plot. ^^^^^^^^ Sample: ![[image loading]](http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/043/6/4/applebloom_portrait_by_churchs-d4pkdwy.png) ![[image loading]](http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/044/f/9/derp_drawing_by_tetrapony-d4pl8sq.png) ![[image loading]](http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/044/4/4/super_speedy_cider_squeezy_6000___flim_flam_by_glancojusticar-d4pldbe.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/044/7/7/the_great_and_powerful_beepsie_by_mr_1-d4pkw7u.png) ![[image loading]](http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/044/0/1/vinyl_scratch___element_of_music_by_nazoth-d4plsjq.png) ![[image loading]](http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/044/e/7/hearts_and_hooves_day_by_sh2otingstar-d4plw6c.png) ![[image loading]](http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/044/f/c/technology_by_ponykillerx-d4pls24.png) | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:19 Hacksu wrote: I think the "over younger audiences head" argument is only thrown in there after the respectable opposition ponders why we watch a so called "kid's show". Atleast thats how I've used it. We need an experiment with an actual person in the target age range, get them to watch an episode and then explain how many of the character's feelings/intentions as well as jokes they understand. I have a feeling it would be nearly all of them except the direct references to films/TV they haven't watched yet, and those are too few to really call it intentional on the part of the director/writers to add those for adults. | ||
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Gary Oak
Canada2381 Posts
On February 14 2012 03:35 Daralii wrote: So this was something that popped up on Reddit: Now to wonder eternally whether or not that was an intentional self-reference. I knew I wasn't seeing things when I said "hey, isn't that a Daring Do costume?" during the Hub's mareathon when Luna Eclipsed aired. | ||
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breaker101010
United States12 Posts
Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that the fans do not determine whether this is a "kid's show that also appeals to the adults". I believe its the creator, as they attempt to create and to cater to an audience with whatever they do, AND we, the bronies coincidentally fully agree or enjoy what they have done. It is first and foremost a kid's show (as it is their intended audience). However the presentation and delivery and aspects of the show makes it appeal to a broader audience (such as not being unbearably stupid, realistic presentation of themes, a personal connection, or something to look up to as a role model.) The show for all intents and purposes is a children's show- but they put the effort, work, and time to make it much more than that. The creators made a phenomenon the likes of which nobody could have foretold or foreseen. And we are thankful for this. | ||
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RoKetha
United States211 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:20 Paperplane wrote: Well the first season they were restricted by something called ei "educational and informational" standards. So they were forced to make the show more educational and contain less scary things. Wikipedia'd a bit: Faust also had to write to the E/I ("educational and informational") standards that Hasbro required of the show, making the crafting of some of the situations she would have normally done on other animated shows more difficult; for example, Faust cited having one character call another an "egghead" as "treading a very delicate line", and having one character cheat in a competition as "worrisome to some" The show is still E/I in season 2; they just don't have the logo at the top any more. If you open up a TV guide description, it still says Educational/Informative. Also, Ditzy Doo was never a name for Derpy at any point in time. The closest it ever got was Faust saying (paraphrased), "well I might use Ditzy Doo or I might use Derpy if we ever give her a name in the show, because we already said the name Ditzy Doo once when it referred to an off-screen pony at the time and kinda fits." All the show staff have used Derpy in interviews at every single occurence, including pre-season 2 and all assets with viewable names containing the pony have used Derpy. And Jayson Thiessen has said in interviews multiple times that most of the animation jokes are not written in but added by the animators themselves, while other jokes are put in because the staff want to have fun with the show and make something they like, not to please any kind of fanbase or audience. | ||
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
Ideas plz ^^ Derpy: I just dont know what went wrong Rarity: I am not whining i'm complaining .... Twi: Dear princess celestia.... RD: The color is fine just make it look cooler, it needs to be about 20%cooler | ||
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jinkyu7
United States45 Posts
fluttershy: Yay! fluttershy: You rock. Woohoo! rarity: this is THE. WORST. POSSIBLE. THING! rainbow dash: needs to be 20% cooler pinkie pie: okie dokie lokie! applejack: dont use your fancy mathematics to muddle the issue. twilight: clock is ticking twilight. clock. is. ticking! | ||
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