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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 13 2018 15:05 GMT
#101
On April 13 2018 23:42 Taf the Ghost wrote:
If Vega can win each game in under 22 min each, they can win a series in less time than Fnatic can win a game.


Seems like they need to concentrate on winning a single game first
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 15:05 GMT
#102
Has the high ground defense Meta started?
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
April 13 2018 15:05 GMT
#103
wow sge impressive defense and coordination
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
April 13 2018 15:06 GMT
#104
once lina gets a bloodthorn they would be able to get the bear easily
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 15:08 GMT
#105
Vega has almost no physical damage, they're going to need an Aghs on the bear.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 13 2018 15:14 GMT
#106
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 13 2018 15:16 GMT
#107
On April 14 2018 00:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Has the high ground defense Meta started?


Vega just has a lineup that is practically completely melee range against MK, Lina etc. They also don't have a Batrider type hero that could really initiate and allow the other heroes to kill someone. I don't think it has much to do with any sort of meta but just the way these specific lineups interact. If Vega don't win with the advantage they get from their early pushing, their lineup isn't great against SG's one
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 15:20 GMT
#108
Bad lanes, but great team play by SG. Congrats on game 1.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-13 15:39:50
April 13 2018 15:39 GMT
#109
Next big offlaner is going to be centaur. One of the few initiator heroes that can not only shove in lanes fast but also scale extremely well. Stampede is also so good at saving team from disastrous teamfight when your team is not in position to take a proper fight.

Had like >70% winrate with him 3 months ago. But this patch just buff him more with the stats change and game slowed down a bit from laning phase.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
April 13 2018 15:41 GMT
#110
I think OD made a good point about SG in relation to the other South American teams. They play more as a team wheras the others try too hard to stand out on their own.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 15:45 GMT
#111
Everyone has decided you need a Range Melee tower sieger.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 15:54 GMT
#112
SG hit creeps really well. That's not an insult, they actually had more CS most of the laning phase in game 1 as well.
kkkkkkkkkk88
Profile Joined April 2018
5 Posts
April 13 2018 16:06 GMT
#113
am i the only one who is getting triggered by SK missing last hit?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
April 13 2018 16:09 GMT
#114
how did the fnatic vs navi go

why the fuck do they have a ultra-lategame again(70 minutes)
this is a quote
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
April 13 2018 16:10 GMT
#115
On April 14 2018 01:09 goody153 wrote:
how did the fnatic vs navi go

why the fuck do they have a ultra-lategame again(70 minutes)

Jacky Mao. That's how.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 16:12 GMT
#116
On April 14 2018 01:09 goody153 wrote:
how did the fnatic vs navi go

why the fuck do they have a ultra-lategame again(70 minutes)


Because both teams are incompetent after 35 minutes, and I'm still not sure how Game 2 took so long when Abed was snowballing.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 13 2018 16:14 GMT
#117
ppd is going to break out the Treant this weekend, I hope, as this is actually pretty impressive how much work it does.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
April 13 2018 16:19 GMT
#118
Is Meteor Hammer the go to item on Treant now? I still feel lost on this hero ever since his move speed got nerfed.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 13 2018 16:25 GMT
#119
On April 14 2018 01:12 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 01:09 goody153 wrote:
how did the fnatic vs navi go

why the fuck do they have a ultra-lategame again(70 minutes)


Because both teams are incompetent after 35 minutes, and I'm still not sure how Game 2 took so long when Abed was snowballing.


Because it's hard to push base against Tinker+Pango+AA. Fnatic wasn't in a terribly commanding position before 25min or so, which meant that NaVi had sidelane t2's up due to Tinker and Furion keeping the lanes out. Fnatic couldn't take more than 1 lane of rax on their following aegis push, and then due to the lineups they had to wait for the next aegis to end the game. The game really wasn't prolonged much more than it needed to
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 13 2018 16:35 GMT
#120
On April 14 2018 01:19 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Is Meteor Hammer the go to item on Treant now? I still feel lost on this hero ever since his move speed got nerfed.


Yes, it's easy to abuse and requires too much resource commitment from the enemy team to effectively counter.

There should be a moratorium on Doom counterpicks against TB unless VP is running it.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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