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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 11 2016 12:58 GMT
#1081
Moo is like Bearded Fear
High Risk Low Reward
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 11 2016 12:58 GMT
#1082
bo3 grand finals wut???
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 11 2016 12:58 GMT
#1083
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.


Dude he got away with silver of HP several times with amazing jukes (outplay) from a timber that cannot be killed unless its 1v5, it was not the Alch that won them this game you should rewatch it
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 12:59:51
June 11 2016 12:59 GMT
#1084
Remember when people were questioning LGD's invite?

4th place is great, and the las game was great too.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 11 2016 12:59 GMT
#1085
On June 11 2016 21:58 ahswtini wrote:
bo3 grand finals wut???

grand finals is bo5, lower bracket finals is bo3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 13:04:39
June 11 2016 13:02 GMT
#1086
On June 11 2016 21:58 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.

team loses -> balance sucks

k, buddy

Too bad I give a fuck about dota only when I watch games live. It's preposterous, right?

I mean how blind of a fanboy you can be if you comment on it.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 11 2016 13:04 GMT
#1087
On June 11 2016 21:59 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Remember when people were questioning LGD's invite?


Yes, and it was absolutely correct to do so.

The invites are given based on past performance, not based on predicting what might happen in the future. Inviting LGD over Newbee was one of the rare blunders by Valve, and them doing well does nothing to disprove that.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
June 11 2016 13:05 GMT
#1088
Feels like the 3 best teams in top 3 at least, that pretty good. Any of those three could win in on a good day.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
June 11 2016 13:08 GMT
#1089
liquid played so well... tide ulti and slark focusing down LGD's supports so timber can't control fights and dish out damage.

the only time liquid's support fucked up they lose the fight bad... that's how on point liquid's supports are.
Rillanon.au
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 13:09:08
June 11 2016 13:08 GMT
#1090
On June 11 2016 22:04 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 21:59 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Remember when people were questioning LGD's invite?


Yes, and it was absolutely correct to do so.

The invites are given based on past performance, not based on predicting what might happen in the future. Inviting LGD over Newbee was one of the rare blunders by Valve, and them doing well does nothing to disprove that.


LGD probably wouldn't have made it through the Qualifiers, actually. Especially at the time. They've looked better in the last month, though.

Granted, Valve got put in a weird spot when VG.R & Wings won tournaments. Wings, especially, as that was a rather big fluke. Valve ended up with 10 invites, realistically, but rather than deal with some awkward "this region gets 1 invite and this gets 2" situation, they moved to 12 invites. That got Na'Vi & LGD a spot.

Newbee, at the time, didn't deserve the spot. We knew they'd be good, but all they had was 3 weeks of great Online play. Valve staked out a "What have you done on LAN?" position, so Newbee wasn't really in line for an invite.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
June 11 2016 13:10 GMT
#1091
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.

wow so much salt. Everything lgd loses to is not balanced? Seems good
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 13:23:48
June 11 2016 13:12 GMT
#1092
On June 11 2016 22:10 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.

wow so much salt. Everything lgd loses to is not balanced? Seems good

you are dense as usual, bud.

"Almost everything pros play out nowadays is not properly balanced" should be the right way to read it. Before the armlet buff Alchemist needed that Aghs feature to be viable. Now with the absurd regen he has, something should be done about that asap. At least, only ult upgrade should be kept, not raw item bonuses. And preferrably shit should cost a little higher. We always used to discuss that kind of things in LR threads, but oh boy Liquid fanboys sure know it better.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
June 11 2016 13:18 GMT
#1093
Holy shit! WP Liquid! Amazing games! Now I want an OG vs TL grand finals, whoever wins that I'll be happy!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 13:29:34
June 11 2016 13:27 GMT
#1094
On June 11 2016 22:12 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 22:10 hunter_x wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.

wow so much salt. Everything lgd loses to is not balanced? Seems good

you are dense as usual, bud.

"Almost everything pros play out nowadays is not properly balanced" should be the right way to read it. Before the armlet buff Alchemist needed that Aghs feature to be viable. Now with the absurd regen he has, something should be done about that asap. At least, only ult upgrade should be kept, not raw item bonuses. And preferrably shit should cost a little higher. We always used to discuss that kind of things in LR threads, but oh boy Liquid fanboys sure know it better.

And you are angry as fuck, also as usual. One of the most aggressive persons in this forum. but i know you dont give a fuck, sitting on your high horse. I just see a salty lgd fan here, trying to convince us he is not.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 13:42:00
June 11 2016 13:41 GMT
#1095
1 more day and my voice can have some rest.

Liquid's lower bracket run has me cheering like crazy. I hope they make it to the finals against OG so that I don't mind which team wins
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 11 2016 13:46 GMT
#1096
Jerax died only 6 times in the entire series
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
June 11 2016 14:48 GMT
#1097
TB with 14% hero damage.
Aggressif is kinda underwhelming as this kind of farming carry.
I believe Maybe misses Sylar right now.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 11 2016 14:59 GMT
#1098
On June 11 2016 21:59 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Remember when people were questioning LGD's invite?

4th place is great, and the las game was great too.


They didn't deserve to be invited for past achievements, only thing of note was 3rd at starladder. Newbee deserved the invite and LGD should of been in qualifier.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 11 2016 15:08 GMT
#1099
On June 11 2016 22:02 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 21:58 cecek wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.

team loses -> balance sucks

k, buddy

Too bad I give a fuck about dota only when I watch games live. It's preposterous, right?

I mean how blind of a fanboy you can be if you comment on it.


Dude just making blank statements which is dumb as hell , what is Alch winrate ? what is LS win rate this major (if you want to rant about a hero that is abit OP) ? once you post those we can have a balance discussion , but you wont like the results i fear.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 15:54:29
June 11 2016 15:29 GMT
#1100
On June 12 2016 00:08 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 22:02 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:58 cecek wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:52 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 11 2016 21:49 Baggage wrote:
KKY was definitely MVP of that game, he won the vision game against a BM. After Lgd took the outer towers they really needed to just gem up. Really disappointing play by Lgd overall.

This game is all on Alchemist. Look how ridicilous his regen is.

It doesn't take anything from this game, but current gamebalance is simply not fun.

team loses -> balance sucks

k, buddy

Too bad I give a fuck about dota only when I watch games live. It's preposterous, right?

I mean how blind of a fanboy you can be if you comment on it.


Dude just making blank statements which is dumb as hell , what is Alch winrate ?

Alchemist was 7-7 before Liquid vs LGD game 2, I believe. The hero is balanced in a way it requires a proper free Aghs thirsty and AA absent draft to get fully unleashed, while half of teams don't even play that hero that much (A, CoL, Empire, NaVi, Secret, Fnatic, etc).

TL is 3-0, VG is 2-1, NB is 1-1, LGD, DC and OG are 0-1 with him; Wings are 0-2, Mineski are 1-0. For evey team that used him at least twice, excluding Wings, the WR is positive, how can it be considered bad is beyond me. I wonder how many mid picks are more succesful that this bar Invoker/DK?

what is LS win rate this major (if you want to rant about a hero that is abit OP)?

I never said LS was OP to begin with, just boring to watch.

@thebearjew. Well, Valve could've invited both Newbee and LGD over tier 2 Western teams that didn't even made it top8. Secret and Complexity for starters done absolutely nothing with their unearned freepasses.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
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