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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 09:15:45
June 11 2016 09:13 GMT
#641
On June 11 2016 18:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 11 2016 18:00 GeneralStan wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:52 Slomo wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:50 Slomo wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:47 pellejohnson wrote:
That might be it Rubberband is too punishing to give up a few kills like this


2 melee racks down at 30 minutes is just about impossible to win, regardless of what heroes you have.

Probably 2-5% odds for Newbee atm.

Wat? If anything its a good place to farm for alchemist now.


Gold and xp is insanely reduced. And you lose all map control.

Too many people here heavily underestimate being a rax down.

Alch still gets the monies...

BKB on CM might be a decider. With Aegis and a fully casted CM ult OG might pull it off in 1 go.


Good call


To his defence, even though I was debating him, it was 2-5% odds for Newbee at 30 minutes, but as that game reached the 40 minute mark and so on, the probability kept going up a bit, as OG wasn't being offensive enough.

I don't know why you keep pulling these "2-5%" numbers out of thin air really. I've seen the comebacks more than a dozens of times with 2 raxes down, heck I've seen the comebacks with Megas against no other lanes taken down.

Newbee certainly had a chance but not with this level of play, they looked like headless chickens in team fights.


If you feel like going through some statistics, and posting them here, go for it.

I've used to enjoy going through them in the past, to look for trends, and what taking towers early meant for chances and so forth, and one of the most noticeable observations I had was how losing rax, particularly 2 sets early on is very unlikely, and many of these numbers stick out to me because they are not how people react.

It's the same way when gold is even, and the game looks "even", but a team has an Alchemist, and it's 45 minutes in, when in reality the Alchemist team wins some 20% of the time in those situations, it's a strong tell.

So yes, I'm not going to give you a source to what I post when I post in a thread where 80% of posts are one liners, and am simply telling you that these are roughly the numbers I remember when going through extensive statistics in the past. If you have a problem, I simply ask you to provide proper evidence, as I think I am fairly qualified in my opinions and recalling rough numbers from memory. Yes, I might be wrong here and there, but there's a lot of crap thrown around in these threads, and I don't think my posting is decreasing the quality in any way.
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Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
June 11 2016 09:13 GMT
#642
are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt?
if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 11 2016 09:14 GMT
#643
NA dota clearly the best we got this boy

all it takes is one NA player now.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 11 2016 09:15 GMT
#644
Bone-chan!
super gg
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 11 2016 09:15 GMT
#645
bone7 god winning OG games
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
June 11 2016 09:15 GMT
#646
Man, MoonMeander is so cool, just took the NA Dota trolling and rolled with it. :D
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 11 2016 09:15 GMT
#647
my home town boy moon
© Current year.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 09:18:14
June 11 2016 09:15 GMT
#648
On June 11 2016 18:11 Jisira wrote:
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On June 11 2016 18:06 cecek wrote:
On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote:
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O

Yeah, he was. Only PPD was saying he likes OG's drat better.

Tbh, I don't know what Charlie is doing on the panel. I very much respect his work and all he's doing for the scene, but he's NOT good on stage. He doesn't know how to talk well in that position and doesn't even bring any groundbreaking knowledge to the table. Would rather see a number of different personalities in his place.

No no, only LD said NB had a better draft. Charlie said he liked OG's draft better.

Ho yeah just watched the vod, charlie said og in a way that made me hear newbee =p
https://www.twitch.tv/dotamajor/v/71775591 at 2h36mn
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
June 11 2016 09:15 GMT
#649
On June 11 2016 18:13 Sloke wrote:
are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt?
if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI.


Both starladder and summit will be on July so i dont think so.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
June 11 2016 09:16 GMT
#650
fucking bone7
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#651
HAHAHA Moon
So cocky :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#652
Very enjoyable interview from Moon
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Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#653
Haha Moon awesome answers, two patch team
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#654
That Moon interview was everything I wanted and more. xDDD
Skol
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#655
2 patch team 10/10
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#656
On June 11 2016 18:15 shad2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:13 Sloke wrote:
are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt?
if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI.


Both starladder and summit will be on July so i dont think so.

The Invites should come out soon though
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
June 11 2016 09:17 GMT
#657
Swindles was right. NA is the best
Sea is the secondb est
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
June 11 2016 09:18 GMT
#658
damn... redeye... that was pretty savage, LOL
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 11 2016 09:18 GMT
#659
Moon is great.
super gg
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
June 11 2016 09:18 GMT
#660
On June 11 2016 18:17 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:15 shad2810 wrote:
On June 11 2016 18:13 Sloke wrote:
are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt?
if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI.


Both starladder and summit will be on July so i dont think so.

The Invites should come out soon though


No what i meant, was since both of them comes in July
I think that invite will be on June too, so i dont think they will use that, but only esl one which is on June.
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