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On June 11 2016 18:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 18:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:On June 11 2016 18:00 GeneralStan wrote:On June 11 2016 17:52 Slomo wrote:On June 11 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:On June 11 2016 17:50 Slomo wrote:On June 11 2016 17:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:On June 11 2016 17:47 pellejohnson wrote:That might be it  Rubberband is too punishing to give up a few kills like this 2 melee racks down at 30 minutes is just about impossible to win, regardless of what heroes you have. Probably 2-5% odds for Newbee atm. Wat? If anything its a good place to farm for alchemist now. Gold and xp is insanely reduced. And you lose all map control. Too many people here heavily underestimate being a rax down. Alch still gets the monies... BKB on CM might be a decider. With Aegis and a fully casted CM ult OG might pull it off in 1 go. Good call To his defence, even though I was debating him, it was 2-5% odds for Newbee at 30 minutes, but as that game reached the 40 minute mark and so on, the probability kept going up a bit, as OG wasn't being offensive enough. I don't know why you keep pulling these "2-5%" numbers out of thin air really. I've seen the comebacks more than a dozens of times with 2 raxes down, heck I've seen the comebacks with Megas against no other lanes taken down. Newbee certainly had a chance but not with this level of play, they looked like headless chickens in team fights.
If you feel like going through some statistics, and posting them here, go for it.
I've used to enjoy going through them in the past, to look for trends, and what taking towers early meant for chances and so forth, and one of the most noticeable observations I had was how losing rax, particularly 2 sets early on is very unlikely, and many of these numbers stick out to me because they are not how people react.
It's the same way when gold is even, and the game looks "even", but a team has an Alchemist, and it's 45 minutes in, when in reality the Alchemist team wins some 20% of the time in those situations, it's a strong tell.
So yes, I'm not going to give you a source to what I post when I post in a thread where 80% of posts are one liners, and am simply telling you that these are roughly the numbers I remember when going through extensive statistics in the past. If you have a problem, I simply ask you to provide proper evidence, as I think I am fairly qualified in my opinions and recalling rough numbers from memory. Yes, I might be wrong here and there, but there's a lot of crap thrown around in these threads, and I don't think my posting is decreasing the quality in any way.
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are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt? if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI.
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NA dota clearly the best we got this boy
all it takes is one NA player now.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
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bone7 god winning OG games
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Man, MoonMeander is so cool, just took the NA Dota trolling and rolled with it. :D
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On June 11 2016 18:11 Jisira wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 18:06 cecek wrote:On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote: Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O Yeah, he was. Only PPD was saying he likes OG's drat better. Tbh, I don't know what Charlie is doing on the panel. I very much respect his work and all he's doing for the scene, but he's NOT good on stage. He doesn't know how to talk well in that position and doesn't even bring any groundbreaking knowledge to the table. Would rather see a number of different personalities in his place. No no, only LD said NB had a better draft. Charlie said he liked OG's draft better. Ho yeah just watched the vod, charlie said og in a way that made me hear newbee =p https://www.twitch.tv/dotamajor/v/71775591 at 2h36mn
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On June 11 2016 18:13 Sloke wrote: are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt? if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI.
Both starladder and summit will be on July so i dont think so.
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Very enjoyable interview from Moon
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Haha Moon awesome answers, two patch team
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That Moon interview was everything I wanted and more. xDDD
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On June 11 2016 18:15 shad2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 18:13 Sloke wrote: are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt? if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI. Both starladder and summit will be on July so i dont think so. The Invites should come out soon though
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Swindles was right. NA is the best Sea is the secondb est
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damn... redeye... that was pretty savage, LOL
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
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On June 11 2016 18:17 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 18:15 shad2810 wrote:On June 11 2016 18:13 Sloke wrote: are there any significant tournaments until TI besides ESL One Frankfurt? if not, the manila major should have a huge meaning for what teams possibly get an invite to TI. Both starladder and summit will be on July so i dont think so. The Invites should come out soon though
No what i meant, was since both of them comes in July I think that invite will be on June too, so i dont think they will use that, but only esl one which is on June.
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