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juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
June 11 2016 09:02 GMT
#621
Now we have a chance of 1,2 EU 3,4 China and 5,6 SEA
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 09:03:32
June 11 2016 09:03 GMT
#622
if newbee slow played the bats farm this game could have been really different. they tried to force him extracting something, which went wrong. he tilted and participated in 2 (3?) fights with no farm that just set him back more, and then he FINALLY accepted slow playing toward blink dagger.

they were 4v5'ing

edit: or just not drafted him
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 11 2016 09:03 GMT
#623
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
June 11 2016 09:04 GMT
#624
newbee draft just way too greedy...how was this supposed to work?
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
June 11 2016 09:04 GMT
#625
kpii did absolutely nothing
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 11 2016 09:04 GMT
#626
On June 11 2016 18:03 lolnoty wrote:
if newbee slow played the bats farm this game could have been really different. they tried to force him extracting something, which went wrong. he tilted and participated in 2 (3?) fights with no farm that just set him back more, and then he FINALLY accepted slow playing toward blink dagger.

they were 4v5'ing

edit: or just not drafted him


Abandoning an off-lane can be a game-winning move right now, due to Iron Talon. We saw what OG did with Beastmaster.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 11 2016 09:04 GMT
#627
On June 11 2016 18:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:00 GeneralStan wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:52 Slomo wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:50 Slomo wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 11 2016 17:47 pellejohnson wrote:
That might be it Rubberband is too punishing to give up a few kills like this


2 melee racks down at 30 minutes is just about impossible to win, regardless of what heroes you have.

Probably 2-5% odds for Newbee atm.

Wat? If anything its a good place to farm for alchemist now.


Gold and xp is insanely reduced. And you lose all map control.

Too many people here heavily underestimate being a rax down.

Alch still gets the monies...

BKB on CM might be a decider. With Aegis and a fully casted CM ult OG might pull it off in 1 go.


Good call


To his defence, even though I was debating him, it was 2-5% odds for Newbee at 30 minutes, but as that game reached the 40 minute mark and so on, the probability kept going up a bit, as OG wasn't being offensive enough.

I don't know why you keep pulling these "2-5%" numbers out of thin air really. I've seen the comebacks more than a dozens of times with 2 raxes down, heck I've seen the comebacks with Megas against no other lanes taken down.

Newbee certainly had a chance but not with this level of play, they looked like headless chickens in team fights.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
June 11 2016 09:05 GMT
#628
On June 11 2016 18:04 hunter_x wrote:
newbee draft just way too greedy...how was this supposed to work?

By highground def. They were really close to pulling it off too. Slightly better bat game and OGs timing might not be there.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 11 2016 09:05 GMT
#629
Even at 30 minutes the only thing Newbees pushing power was limited by is the walking speed of their own creeps. Its not like super creeps stop Spectre and Alch for more than 5 seconds.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 11 2016 09:05 GMT
#630
Titan so good vs haunt too, haunt into get stunned.
Cr1t MVP of the serie !
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 11 2016 09:05 GMT
#631
On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote:
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O


Thought LD was the only one favoring Newbee there
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 11 2016 09:06 GMT
#632
On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote:
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O

Yeah, he was. Only PPD was saying he likes OG's drat better.

Tbh, I don't know what Charlie is doing on the panel. I very much respect his work and all he's doing for the scene, but he's NOT good on stage. He doesn't know how to talk well in that position and doesn't even bring any groundbreaking knowledge to the table. Would rather see a number of different personalities in his place.
super gg
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
June 11 2016 09:07 GMT
#633
oh god that crit face gonna be a gif for sure.
Skol
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 11 2016 09:08 GMT
#634
So, what are we thinking.

We have:
6 EU teams (1-4 x2, 5-8 x1, 9-12 x2, 13-16 x1)
3 NA teams (9-12 x2, 13-16 x1)
3 SEA teams (5-8 x2, 13-16 x1)
4 CN teams (1-4 x2, 5-8 x1, 13-16 x1)

For TI should one of the slots be taken from NA and given to CN? I'm also certain we will have fewer invites for TI. I'm personally very happy with how Valve does invites, I thought only 8 for Shanghai was very good because at that point there top teams were a bit more scattered. When the 12 invites came out for Manila, the top teams were more set in stone (minus the controversy with Newbee). I feel like after this tournament, everything will be all over the place, and 8 invites is all we will be getting.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 09:11:29
June 11 2016 09:10 GMT
#635
On June 11 2016 18:06 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote:
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O

Yeah, he was. Only PPD was saying he likes OG's drat better.

Tbh, I don't know what Charlie is doing on the panel. I very much respect his work and all he's doing for the scene, but he's NOT good on stage. He doesn't know how to talk well in that position and doesn't even bring any groundbreaking knowledge to the table. Would rather see a number of different personalities in his place.


Eh, in the age of there being Data from Startrek constantly on the panel, I'll take Charlie over him any day of the week
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
June 11 2016 09:11 GMT
#636
On June 11 2016 18:06 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote:
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O

Yeah, he was. Only PPD was saying he likes OG's drat better.

Tbh, I don't know what Charlie is doing on the panel. I very much respect his work and all he's doing for the scene, but he's NOT good on stage. He doesn't know how to talk well in that position and doesn't even bring any groundbreaking knowledge to the table. Would rather see a number of different personalities in his place.

No no, only LD said NB had a better draft. Charlie said he liked OG's draft better.
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
June 11 2016 09:11 GMT
#637
So gangsta. Original gangsters. In the final.
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-11 09:13:05
June 11 2016 09:11 GMT
#638
On June 11 2016 18:06 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:03 MrCon wrote:
Before the game Charlie was saying he was favoring NB's draft, right ? Now he says it was a disappointing draft :O

Yeah, he was. Only PPD was saying he likes OG's drat better.



Charlie called out NBs draft for being far too greedy and clearly favoured OG. PPD favoured OG mainly because of Beast Master. LD was in NBs camp.
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
June 11 2016 09:11 GMT
#639
I honestly think Liquid's got this one.
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
June 11 2016 09:12 GMT
#640
1-2 EU
3-4 China
5-6 Sea

Reminds me of freddy krueger song lol.
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