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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 04 2016 14:35 GMT
#1321
On June 04 2016 23:33 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:32 Faruko wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:30 Talin wrote:
If Liquipedia pattern is correct we're gonna get EG-coL and Secret-Alliance/Fnatic in the BO1s.

isnt random draw ?

pretty sure it is


Liquipedia already has WB teams slotted into the bracket, going by the group A vs D and B vs C system.

Someone might have made that up though, I don't know.


They could have done the drawings after the first Elimination games were finished, as there's no reason not to at that point.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 04 2016 14:38 GMT
#1322
On June 04 2016 23:35 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:21 bluzi wrote:
Also RTZ in one swoop took #1/#2 teams in the world straight to dumpster tier!!!!

I think this isn't getting enough focus. That w33 and Misery kick was a HUGE deal for the western scene. Just reminds me of the stupid amount of hype that Lebron got when he moved to Miami.

EDIT: A selfish move that fucked over EVERYONE involved and he is still never going to beat Jordan.

EG would have been fine since PPD and RTZ both alluded to RTZ not gelling as well with the team like last time.

Universe dropped the ball because he wanted change.
Puppey dropped the ball because he lost control over the team and the meta.
EE dropped the ball because shit's not working and he needed to step up as drafter, which he didn't want to or couldn't handle while carrying either.

Misery and w33 really worked well playstylewise. it's a shame, but at least DC is doing better now than with Yawar lmao.

Why doesn't Puppey draft?
kiss kiss fall in love
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
June 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#1323
On June 04 2016 23:31 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:29 CxWiLL wrote:
I am wondering if the autoexec change has affect the player on Secret and EG.
I thought they are more cfg heavy than the other teams.


What does that even influence? Pretty sure stuff like configuring buttons to check runes is still allowed. I'm confused what people are referring to in terms of being "cfg heavy".

Also EG and Secret just haven't been particularly impressive throughout with these lineups, Secret obviously even less so.


players may need sometime to get used to the new set of hotkeys, which is huge.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#1324
On June 04 2016 23:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:35 Wintex wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:21 bluzi wrote:
Also RTZ in one swoop took #1/#2 teams in the world straight to dumpster tier!!!!

I think this isn't getting enough focus. That w33 and Misery kick was a HUGE deal for the western scene. Just reminds me of the stupid amount of hype that Lebron got when he moved to Miami.

EDIT: A selfish move that fucked over EVERYONE involved and he is still never going to beat Jordan.

EG would have been fine since PPD and RTZ both alluded to RTZ not gelling as well with the team like last time.

Universe dropped the ball because he wanted change.
Puppey dropped the ball because he lost control over the team and the meta.
EE dropped the ball because shit's not working and he needed to step up as drafter, which he didn't want to or couldn't handle while carrying either.

Misery and w33 really worked well playstylewise. it's a shame, but at least DC is doing better now than with Yawar lmao.

Why doesn't Puppey draft?


EE drafted at MDL, but I'm pretty sure Puppey was back to drafting at Shanghai. So, they switched around even in the previous roster formation.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#1325
On June 04 2016 23:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:35 Wintex wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:21 bluzi wrote:
Also RTZ in one swoop took #1/#2 teams in the world straight to dumpster tier!!!!

I think this isn't getting enough focus. That w33 and Misery kick was a HUGE deal for the western scene. Just reminds me of the stupid amount of hype that Lebron got when he moved to Miami.

EDIT: A selfish move that fucked over EVERYONE involved and he is still never going to beat Jordan.

EG would have been fine since PPD and RTZ both alluded to RTZ not gelling as well with the team like last time.

Universe dropped the ball because he wanted change.
Puppey dropped the ball because he lost control over the team and the meta.
EE dropped the ball because shit's not working and he needed to step up as drafter, which he didn't want to or couldn't handle while carrying either.

Misery and w33 really worked well playstylewise. it's a shame, but at least DC is doing better now than with Yawar lmao.

Why doesn't Puppey draft?


He did draft against Wings pretty sure. They started the tournament trying out EE drafting against NaVi, probably due to the team just not being confident with Puppey drafting atm.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 14:41:16
June 04 2016 14:40 GMT
#1326
I feel pro dota is going the wrong way. The invited teams play once in a blue moon, and it shows. The sooner they stop this invite thing, the better. It is only tight between teams, because the lot of them are in the same hopeless loop. Valve going in the opposite direction and inviting more, is clearly not the answer.
LiangHao
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 14:41:36
June 04 2016 14:40 GMT
#1327
On June 04 2016 23:35 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:21 bluzi wrote:
Also RTZ in one swoop took #1/#2 teams in the world straight to dumpster tier!!!!

I think this isn't getting enough focus. That w33 and Misery kick was a HUGE deal for the western scene. Just reminds me of the stupid amount of hype that Lebron got when he moved to Miami.

EDIT: A selfish move that fucked over EVERYONE involved and he is still never going to beat Jordan.

EG would have been fine since PPD and RTZ both alluded to RTZ not gelling as well with the team like last time.

Universe dropped the ball because he wanted change.
Puppey dropped the ball because he lost control over the team and the meta.
EE dropped the ball because shit's not working and he needed to step up as drafter, which he didn't want to or couldn't handle while carrying either.

Misery and w33 really worked well playstylewise. it's a shame, but at least DC is doing better now than with Yawar lmao.


I still can't believe how much people hyped Yawar on DC despite all of his teams performing poorly and him teamhopping like a hot potato
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 04 2016 14:41 GMT
#1328
On June 04 2016 23:39 CxWiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:31 spudde123 wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:29 CxWiLL wrote:
I am wondering if the autoexec change has affect the player on Secret and EG.
I thought they are more cfg heavy than the other teams.


What does that even influence? Pretty sure stuff like configuring buttons to check runes is still allowed. I'm confused what people are referring to in terms of being "cfg heavy".

Also EG and Secret just haven't been particularly impressive throughout with these lineups, Secret obviously even less so.


players may need sometime to get used to the new set of hotkeys, which is huge.


As far as I understand nothing in terms of changing hotkeys is not allowed. What's not allowed is binding multiple things to one button for example
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 04 2016 14:41 GMT
#1329
so eg get handed the easiest group in the tournament and still can't make top 2 lol
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 04 2016 14:42 GMT
#1330
On June 04 2016 23:40 Dracolich70 wrote:
I feel pro dota is going the wrong way. The invited teams play once in a blue moon, and it shows. The sooner they stop this invite thing, the better. It is only tight between teams, because the lot of them are in the same hopeless loop. Valve going in the opposite direction and inviting more, is clearly not the answer.

Yeah, and group stage is great for pulling in views without a ton of pressure to perform due to double-elim. :D
kiss kiss fall in love
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 04 2016 14:42 GMT
#1331
I hope Alliance have a curve ball , cuz Fnatic knows whats coming , Slardar + Rubik early picks
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 04 2016 14:42 GMT
#1332
On June 04 2016 23:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 23:35 Wintex wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On June 04 2016 23:21 bluzi wrote:
Also RTZ in one swoop took #1/#2 teams in the world straight to dumpster tier!!!!

I think this isn't getting enough focus. That w33 and Misery kick was a HUGE deal for the western scene. Just reminds me of the stupid amount of hype that Lebron got when he moved to Miami.

EDIT: A selfish move that fucked over EVERYONE involved and he is still never going to beat Jordan.

EG would have been fine since PPD and RTZ both alluded to RTZ not gelling as well with the team like last time.

Universe dropped the ball because he wanted change.
Puppey dropped the ball because he lost control over the team and the meta.
EE dropped the ball because shit's not working and he needed to step up as drafter, which he didn't want to or couldn't handle while carrying either.

Misery and w33 really worked well playstylewise. it's a shame, but at least DC is doing better now than with Yawar lmao.


I still can't believe how much people hyped Yawar on DC despite all of his teams performing poorly and him teamhopping like a hot potato

he can play, but he is extremely inconsistent, and his highs are lower than the top mids.
The Bomber boy
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
June 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#1333
On June 04 2016 23:40 Dracolich70 wrote:
I feel pro dota is going the wrong way. The invited teams play once in a blue moon, and it shows. The sooner they stop this invite thing, the better. It is only tight between teams, because the lot of them are in the same hopeless loop. Valve going in the opposite direction and inviting more, is clearly not the answer.

Yeah, next time they can't decide which team to invite they should just lower the amount of invites instead of raising them.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#1334
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#1335
lets go fnatic :>
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
June 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#1336
NP first pick, why not ban him zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#1337
On June 04 2016 23:40 Dracolich70 wrote:
I feel pro dota is going the wrong way. The invited teams play once in a blue moon, and it shows. The sooner they stop this invite thing, the better. It is only tight between teams, because the lot of them are in the same hopeless loop. Valve going in the opposite direction and inviting more, is clearly not the answer.


The only way it goes the wrong way is if they KEEP inviting the underperfoming teams , i have 0 issues with TL/OG/Newbee /EG/Secret(defending champions) for this major , BUT after Secret being bad for so long they shouldnt get an invite for the next Valve event , EG are debatable but probably wont invite as well , it should be minimum top 6 or having a great post major season to get that autoinvite
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#1338
what is this, when A won it looks like such a big deal, camera and big talk etc
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
June 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#1339
personally i wouldn't say they got handed the group. with the way the draws were, they were bound to play MVP.

you could say mineski is an expected W, but MVP winning against LGD means they play.
which means EG plays LGD for the marbles.

what happened was MVP lost and EG play them anyway.

they had to be rather lucky to play the two weaker teams with the winner's side team beating the other stronger team.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#1340
They are baiting the Puck , i hope Alliance wont fall for it , DONT GO PUCK GUYS , DONTNNTN
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