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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 03 2016 15:54 GMT
#1481
On June 04 2016 00:50 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 00:49 Kabras wrote:
On June 04 2016 00:45 Shaella wrote:
i mean i claimed EG is gonna win so they better not make me look retarded

u also called bulba a good offlaner so it's kinda late for that. might as well say w/e you want now xD

Bulba is quite literally the best offlaner in the world currently.

if u keep repeating it for long enough i might end up believing it. but then i'll watch eg games
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
June 03 2016 16:01 GMT
#1482
On June 04 2016 00:54 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 00:50 Shaella wrote:
On June 04 2016 00:49 Kabras wrote:
On June 04 2016 00:45 Shaella wrote:
i mean i claimed EG is gonna win so they better not make me look retarded

u also called bulba a good offlaner so it's kinda late for that. might as well say w/e you want now xD

Bulba is quite literally the best offlaner in the world currently.

if u keep repeating it for long enough i might end up believing it. but then i'll watch eg games

thats the plan
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
slnzrd
Profile Joined June 2016
Brazil1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 16:03:35
June 03 2016 16:03 GMT
#1483
navi vs dc GAME 2 / GG predictions, longest game and the winner of longest game
slnsln
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 03 2016 16:11 GMT
#1484
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 16:30:29
June 03 2016 16:15 GMT
#1485
EE and RTZ might be the biggest victim for the autoexec change. Their micro are not as crisp as they were.
If it was a month ago, they shouldn't die to the sprout+shackle combo for so many times as puck and ember.
Hope they can get used to it soon.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 16:20:11
June 03 2016 16:18 GMT
#1486
On June 04 2016 01:11 Azarkon wrote:
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.

LOL,
there is only one Chinese teams each group, sir. There is not way to have 2 Chinese team to advance in one group.
Newbee stomp their group, and wings in the losers. Pretty even result right now.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 16:22:27
June 03 2016 16:18 GMT
#1487
Yes, and one of them didn't make it out. Therefore, they are even. Which is what I said.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 16:26 GMT
#1488
On June 04 2016 01:11 Azarkon wrote:
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.
To be fair there are all three SEA teams tomorrow, or in other words 5 out of 8 that are Eastern. While 2 out of 8 were Eastern today. I don't know, but it seems like you are setting yourself up, or setting up Western Dota to look bad in the disguise of something else.
LiangHao
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
June 03 2016 16:35 GMT
#1489
Ok, given the schedule I'll be missing all these games lives.

What games should I watch or are good so far?
Go pro or die trying
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 16:36:50
June 03 2016 16:36 GMT
#1490
On June 04 2016 01:26 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 01:11 Azarkon wrote:
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.
To be fair there are all three SEA teams tomorrow, or in other words 5 out of 8 that are Eastern. While 2 out of 8 were Eastern today. I don't know, but it seems like you are setting yourself up, or setting up Western Dota to look bad in the disguise of something else.

Notice how he was talking about Western vs Chinese. Not every "Eastern" team.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2016 16:39 GMT
#1491
How did Valve hit their timings today for the first games ? i want to see Alliance first series but will not want to sit 1 hour waiting .....
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
June 03 2016 16:40 GMT
#1492
holy shit what a shit show from Secret

I actually feel bad for Artour (never thought I'll say those words in a million years)

it's like they haven't practice at all since the roster change.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11858 Posts
June 03 2016 16:41 GMT
#1493
On June 04 2016 01:35 DV G wrote:
Ok, given the schedule I'll be missing all these games lives.

What games should I watch or are good so far?


Most navi games have been good today. The Navi game vs DC with tinker in it I considered fun, though it is very long.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11858 Posts
June 03 2016 16:42 GMT
#1494
On June 04 2016 01:39 bluzi wrote:
How did Valve hit their timings today for the first games ? i want to see Alliance first series but will not want to sit 1 hour waiting .....


2/4 on time. 1/4 10 min delay. Main stream 30 min delay. So not 1h late in any of the 4 starter games.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 16:45:20
June 03 2016 16:42 GMT
#1495
On June 04 2016 01:26 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 01:11 Azarkon wrote:
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.
To be fair there are all three SEA teams tomorrow, or in other words 5 out of 8 that are Eastern. While 2 out of 8 were Eastern today. I don't know, but it seems like you are setting yourself up, or setting up Western Dota to look bad in the disguise of something else.


The way the groups work, the amount of teams from a region don't matter much, since they remove each other. For example, in Newbee's group, Empire didn't even play Newbee.

So I think it's fair to say that we can judge how well they did just by the games they win, and the games they lose.

In today's groups, it will be similar. Several of these teams won't even play each other, but we'll still be able to tell by the end who came to play, and who came just because they got an invite.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
June 03 2016 16:46 GMT
#1496
On June 04 2016 01:41 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 01:35 DV G wrote:
Ok, given the schedule I'll be missing all these games lives.

What games should I watch or are good so far?


Most navi games have been good today. The Navi game vs DC with tinker in it I considered fun, though it is very long.



thanks, I guess I'll give Na'vi a try (havent been a fan since Ti2).

Its just that the team i wnated to watch for this 2 groups (newbee) just roflstomped and those games are probably not fun to watch.
Go pro or die trying
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 16:57 GMT
#1497
On June 04 2016 01:36 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 01:26 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 04 2016 01:11 Azarkon wrote:
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.
To be fair there are all three SEA teams tomorrow, or in other words 5 out of 8 that are Eastern. While 2 out of 8 were Eastern today. I don't know, but it seems like you are setting yourself up, or setting up Western Dota to look bad in the disguise of something else.

Notice how he was talking about Western vs Chinese. Not every "Eastern" team.
Yeah, but that could be related to the "foreigner"/Korea theme from Starcraft, and not intentional per se. However, in order of fairness, if one side has several regions, so should the other.
LiangHao
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 17:13:14
June 03 2016 17:02 GMT
#1498
On June 04 2016 01:42 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 01:26 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 04 2016 01:11 Azarkon wrote:
So after the first day, it's looking to be an even tournament between the regions, just as we thought. In one group, one Chinese and one Western team at the top; in the other, two Western teams.
To be fair there are all three SEA teams tomorrow, or in other words 5 out of 8 that are Eastern. While 2 out of 8 were Eastern today. I don't know, but it seems like you are setting yourself up, or setting up Western Dota to look bad in the disguise of something else.


The way the groups work, the amount of teams from a region don't matter much, since they remove each other. For example, in Newbee's group, Empire didn't even play Newbee.

So I think it's fair to say that we can judge how well they did just by the games they win, and the games they lose.

In today's groups, it will be similar. Several of these teams won't even play each other, but we'll still be able to tell by the end who came to play, and who came just because they got an invite.
Well, it seems like on one hand you want to do regions(NA/CIS/EU), when you talk about Empire, and on the other you seem to bundle up one into Western team vs China.

In order of frequency, it seems East did the best with the little they had and only lost two series out of 5.

Of course given that 5 out of 8 are gonna be Eastern tomorrow, your point of how you do against teams from your own region are gonna misrepresent somewhat.


LiangHao
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 17:25:20
June 03 2016 17:16 GMT
#1499
They lost two, and in case we want to bring in the Western Europe, America, and Eastern Europe difference, then:

Eastern Europe: 2 teams
Western Europe: 2 teams
America: 2 teams
China: 2 teams

Eastern Europe: 1 team went through
Western Europe: 1 team went through
America: 1 team went through
China: 1 team went through

Which is as even as it gets.

But that's with the idea that a team with four Europeans is an American team, lelz.

Today will be:

Western Europe: 2 teams
America: 1 team
Southeast Asia: 2 teams
Korea: 1 team
China: 2 teams

Which is a lot less even than what we just saw.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 03 2016 17:59 GMT
#1500
So Secret has three choices. Kick EE, make Puppey captain and go with a more reliable (but with lower upside) carry player, aknowledge that their roster is super talented, but may take time to gel and hold the course, or let EE continue to assemble super star rosters, make dumb decisions, and rebuild every couple of tournaments.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
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