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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
April 30 2018 20:58 GMT
#5121
On May 01 2018 05:57 spacecoke wrote:
I suspect VP lost on purpose to Na'Vi because they share the same owner. VP's picks are extremely countered by Na'Vis according to dota counter app.

...

i... wtf?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 30 2018 21:20 GMT
#5122
Dream of Top 2 of group is still alive!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 30 2018 21:38 GMT
#5123
On May 01 2018 05:57 spacecoke wrote:
I suspect VP lost on purpose to Na'Vi because they share the same owner. VP's picks are extremely countered by Na'Vis according to dota counter app.

Edit: But if they didn't, then props to Na'Vi.

Ehhh, for sure not what happened lol. Credit due.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 30 2018 23:11 GMT
#5124
Awesome series and especially game 3 from Navi. They looked like a real team for once;)
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 01 2018 02:20 GMT
#5125
Na'vi seems to be specializing in winning full BO3 series. Yesterday their last game vs Secret was almost perfect and today vs VP (though I could not see this 1, but LD comments telling me they did pretty well). Also their only loss this tourney has been a straight out 2 game series that did not make it to the 3rd game.

So either 2-0 Na'vi or don't beat them at all..?
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 01 2018 03:38 GMT
#5126
Cool wi and congrats! Hope the upset is not due to streaky form. I'd be happier if they show consistency, like constantly beating tier 2s, constantly putting up a fight (although losing) against tier 1s etc.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 01 2018 04:08 GMT
#5127
On May 01 2018 12:38 DucK- wrote:
Cool wi and congrats! Hope the upset is not due to streaky form. I'd be happier if they show consistency, like constantly beating tier 2s, constantly putting up a fight (although losing) against tier 1s etc.

i think in dota everything starts off with a streak... because you then realise what youve done right or wrong and continue capitalising on...

for the past 2 days i can see their drafting has been much better... they are comfortable trying out Zeus, WR .etc while getting results... also getting better at sticking with their game plan and not tilted... in g3 they were 0 5 down with 3k behind in the first 10 mins... everyone expected a 16 mins gg but the boys knew exactly what their lineup was capable of and worked with that...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
May 01 2018 06:13 GMT
#5128
Agreed. We executed OUR game plan and applied the preasure on our terms. If we beat newbee in next series we pretty much lock up a playoff spot and give ourselves a really good chance of top 2 upper bracket.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 01 2018 07:35 GMT
#5129
I still don't buy it. If they show consistency for some weeks, then we are good. It is nice to watch them win but this could just be some luck of the draw, hope it is not.
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 01 2018 10:02 GMT
#5130
On May 01 2018 16:35 Racket wrote:
I still don't buy it. If they show consistency for some weeks, then we are good. It is nice to watch them win but this could just be some luck of the draw, hope it is not.


Na'vi beat Secret and VP on consecutive days, which are 2 of the top 3 DPC point holders. Whatever it is that Na'vi got going it is definitely not luck of the draw.

But the wins still might be fluke. There might still be 2 more tier 2 teams that Na'vi face in this tournament. Those 2 games might give us an indication of how good Na'vi is actually playing right now. If they beat them convincingly like tier 1's should, then they might actually be on the up.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
May 01 2018 12:11 GMT
#5131
Give my biy crystallize heroes that do shit and they have a good combo, they have great success with that, also lil getting a lot more involved with lesh and slardar
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
May 01 2018 16:00 GMT
#5132
my goodness of course we lose to Newbee :/ lolll
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 01 2018 16:56 GMT
#5133
Well, even if they lose to Pain, as long as Secret and Newbee lose they qualify. Hopefully they win and not depend on others.
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
May 01 2018 17:01 GMT
#5134
Tough loss. Such a big deal having been able to lock up a top two finish and get into upper bracket bo3s. We’re definitely favorites to get 3-4, but bo1 lower bracket is brutal. We’ve shown we can win any game but also lose any game.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-01 22:11:49
May 01 2018 22:08 GMT
#5135
On May 01 2018 16:35 Racket wrote:
I still don't buy it. If they show consistency for some weeks, then we are good. It is nice to watch them win but this could just be some luck of the draw, hope it is not.

Same, VP's and Secret's performance really didn't convince me. Secret's game 1 draft was beyond wonky f.e. Considering the last results of epicenter it's fairly safe to say that some stronger teams just tried stuff out because the patch just came out.

Not trying to take away that Navi is playing way better than ever since they kicked Sonneiko and lost Rodjer, the Navi of the last few tournaments wouldnt have won game 3 vs Secret nor give Newbee a challenge.
But I think it's too soon to say whether they aren't just back to being a mid-level team profiting from the chaos of the early patch or are actually a team that could take a top tier team down mid patch.

It was still fun seeing them win vs Secret, I hope it lasts.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 02 2018 14:26 GMT
#5136
On May 02 2018 02:01 Conjurusrex2002 wrote:
Tough loss. Such a big deal having been able to lock up a top two finish and get into upper bracket bo3s. We’re definitely favorites to get 3-4, but bo1 lower bracket is brutal. We’ve shown we can win any game but also lose any game.


ehmm there is every chance of losing to Pain aswell and just getting knocked out.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
May 02 2018 14:46 GMT
#5137
yah, bye bye epicenter
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
May 02 2018 14:53 GMT
#5138
i think the problem with navi is that they are bad but they just don't know it 🤔
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
May 02 2018 14:59 GMT
#5139
So we beat VP & Secret to get knocked out by Brazil? Man, can't even be mad any more at this stuff.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-02 15:03:32
May 02 2018 15:03 GMT
#5140
On May 01 2018 19:02 arghyad1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 16:35 Racket wrote:
I still don't buy it. If they show consistency for some weeks, then we are good. It is nice to watch them win but this could just be some luck of the draw, hope it is not.


Na'vi beat Secret and VP on consecutive days, which are 2 of the top 3 DPC point holders. Whatever it is that Na'vi got going it is definitely not luck of the draw.

But the wins still might be fluke. There might still be 2 more tier 2 teams that Na'vi face in this tournament. Those 2 games might give us an indication of how good Na'vi is actually playing right now. If they beat them convincingly like tier 1's should, then they might actually be on the up.

Now you get what I meant?

They are not consistent. Winning against VP and Secret means nothing if don't get out of group stage..

Lucky days ended in wins we never saw coming. Normal days ended like they normally do, with NaVi losing to anyone.

The only thing that bothers me about all this is that those two wins will likely postpone the so much needed change in the team dynamic.
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