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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 15:27:46
April 21 2018 13:19 GMT
#5081
Drafting isn't the issue. Their map-movement past the laning stage is. They either get ahead enough early that they can snowball and pretty much end the game before 35 minutes or they fall into this aimless farming mode, split up too much, get caught by a smoke and fall apart. There is no read of enemy map movement whatsoever and they really lack clear planning past the laning stage.

Which is why a scaling core for crystalize doesn't help, a pushing core does though. It's why I see them win so often on Luna, it's a hero that translates gold lead into buildings really well.

Loosing Sonneiko hurt them possibly more than than loosing Rodjer. Atm I think dropping Sonneiko over Lil was a bad move, Lil is the mechanically better player but they really lack clear vision and leadership.
low gravity, yes-yes!
FekY
Profile Joined February 2012
Serbia55 Posts
April 21 2018 13:33 GMT
#5082
At least they dont lose against tier 20 teams, like in MDL Changsha Major qualy, against MEGA LADA.
I hope they qualify for ESL, but it will not be that easy, because FTM is very good at the moment.

The true test comes at Epicenter. I have a good feeling
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 21 2018 14:10 GMT
#5083
I was concerned after game 3 last pick brood by TS. We overcame it though, even after that rough start. Looking progressively better, it’ll be a big step forward just for team morale if we can close out the GF tomorrow and actually qualify did a major with our lineup. (We haven’t qualified for anything with current roster. All direct invites.)
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 22 2018 12:42 GMT
#5084
we qualified boys!
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 22 2018 12:49 GMT
#5085
Wow. Hands down the best we’ve looked ever with current roster. That series wasn’t even close. Empire def not in their best form at the moment, but still a very solid performance. Crystallize Morph 😳😢
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 22 2018 12:50 GMT
#5086
Minus the 😢
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 23 2018 00:06 GMT
#5087
at least we're back to beating tier 5 teams...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 23 2018 01:14 GMT
#5088
I don't ask for much for now. Just regularly and cleanly beat all the tier 2/3 teams....
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 23 2018 05:42 GMT
#5089
On April 23 2018 10:14 DucK- wrote:
I don't ask for much for now. Just regularly and cleanly beat all the tier 2/3 teams....

I am ok with cruising through CIS quals. Not there yet but should be doable.
FekY
Profile Joined February 2012
Serbia55 Posts
April 23 2018 10:07 GMT
#5090
They must stomp these tier 2/3 teams through every qualifiers, if they hope to have a shot for DPC points
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 23 2018 19:48 GMT
#5091
Meh. Unlucky draw with the groups for Epicenter. Group A is considerably softer than group B.
https://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/46908-epicenter-xl-groups-decided
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 24 2018 04:56 GMT
#5092
Well it's just og actually. Very beatable team just like col. Just need to fight for 4th. Groups ain't that bad.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 24 2018 10:33 GMT
#5093
On April 24 2018 13:56 DucK- wrote:
Well it's just og actually. Very beatable team just like col. Just need to fight for 4th. Groups ain't that bad.

iono man we tend to have this iffy factor when it comes to OG... granted OG has not been OG for a while but still
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 24 2018 11:42 GMT
#5094
Yeah, I’m basing it on we’ve never beaten OG in a bo3. Ever. And secret and VP tend to traditionally have our number as well. Newbee is Newbee and they’ll be favored over us. Group A I’d feel comfortable playing anyone besides liquid.
FekY
Profile Joined February 2012
Serbia55 Posts
April 24 2018 11:54 GMT
#5095
The ideal scenario would be to play in first rounds against OG and PAIN gaming, because i`m quite positive those two wont be a problem. Winning would boost their confidence to go against VP and TS, but i cant see them wining against them, not in a bo3.
Conjurusrex2002
Profile Joined March 2018
46 Posts
April 28 2018 16:10 GMT
#5096
On April 24 2018 20:54 FekY wrote:
The ideal scenario would be to play in first rounds against OG and PAIN gaming, because i`m quite positive those two wont be a problem. Winning would boost their confidence to go against VP and TS, but i cant see them wining against them, not in a bo3.


Like I said previously. We haven’t beaten OG, despite any roster from them or us, EVER in a bo3.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
April 28 2018 19:12 GMT
#5097
the moment when a couch plays better dota then a roster player, plz more invites to majors for navi, may the comedy never end.
Chillander
Profile Joined September 2017
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-28 19:58:07
April 28 2018 19:56 GMT
#5098
Wrong thread
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
April 28 2018 20:16 GMT
#5099
On April 29 2018 01:10 Conjurusrex2002 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2018 20:54 FekY wrote:
The ideal scenario would be to play in first rounds against OG and PAIN gaming, because i`m quite positive those two wont be a problem. Winning would boost their confidence to go against VP and TS, but i cant see them wining against them, not in a bo3.


Like I said previously. We haven’t beaten OG, despite any roster from them or us, EVER in a bo3.


Yeah, and aside from one 2:3 final they were mostly brutal losses. I think Deni himself said they have a mental blockade against OG.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-29 01:16:34
April 28 2018 22:32 GMT
#5100
On April 29 2018 01:10 Conjurusrex2002 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2018 20:54 FekY wrote:
The ideal scenario would be to play in first rounds against OG and PAIN gaming, because i`m quite positive those two wont be a problem. Winning would boost their confidence to go against VP and TS, but i cant see them wining against them, not in a bo3.


Like I said previously. We haven’t beaten OG, despite any roster from them or us, EVER in a bo3.

They have beaten them once I believe, with Ditya Ra on Ember, Dendi playing Magnus and OG still with Miracle.
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