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vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
July 20 2014 02:30 GMT
#1181
All is not lost yet.. 3-0 down to IG and then break.. so this is kinda similar in a way. Go go go mushi. (honestly u're yolo mode decision making dying a lot of times before popping BKB once u had it early has been quite terrible)
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-20 02:31:07
July 20 2014 02:30 GMT
#1182
ooops mistake
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 20 2014 02:31 GMT
#1183
I think imma not watch tomorrow and wake up to see DK in the grand final.
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
July 20 2014 02:33 GMT
#1184
On July 20 2014 11:29 ref4 wrote:
didn't know anybody is capable of that level of throw


It requires a black belt in judo.
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
July 20 2014 02:33 GMT
#1185
lame cheese
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
July 20 2014 02:36 GMT
#1186
On July 20 2014 11:30 vasculaR wrote:
All is not lost yet.. 3-0 down to IG and then break.. so this is kinda similar in a way. Go go go mushi. (honestly u're yolo mode decision making dying a lot of times before popping BKB once u had it early has been quite terrible)


Sure, but DK has to win this, then beat VG/C9, then beat EG, then beat Newbee, if they are going to win TI4, and games like today demonstrate why you just can't bet on DK.
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
July 20 2014 02:42 GMT
#1187
Someone should interview 71 now.
Nightlark
Profile Joined June 2014
United States55 Posts
July 20 2014 02:45 GMT
#1188
Guessing 71 is pretty pissed.

I feel like the pressure's getting to them and they're losing confidence. LaNm's drafts have been good so far, it's just been the decision-making that worries me. I don't think I can bear to watch tomorrow's games.
心中,眼中,梦中的冠军 - DK.BurNing | DK.Mushi | DK.iceiceice | DK.LaNm | DK.MMY
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
July 20 2014 03:16 GMT
#1189
They were not thinking straight when they're ahead for some reason. Ice^3 got max, Burning won't get stronger, only Mushi realistically. The 7th and 8th items slot on courier are for shenanigans only, and not make you stronger during teamfight. While LGD lineups can all get exponentially stronger with farm.

Where's the famous brilliant lategame decision ? They forgot to look at the draft + their position and then decide from there. Not sure if I will watch the games tmr, since I'm scared, like very very scared ;_;. We're at the exact same lower bracket position as last year when facing Orange, but this time 1 game down ...
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
July 20 2014 03:25 GMT
#1190
On July 20 2014 12:16 vndestiny wrote:
They were not thinking straight when they're ahead for some reason. Ice^3 got max, Burning won't get stronger, only Mushi realistically. The 7th and 8th items slot on courier are for shenanigans only, and not make you stronger during teamfight. While LGD lineups can all get exponentially stronger with farm.

Where's the famous brilliant lategame decision ? They forgot to look at the draft + their position and then decide from there. Not sure if I will watch the games tmr, since I'm scared, like very very scared ;_;. We're at the exact same lower bracket position as last year when facing Orange, but this time 1 game down ...

No, don't say that... :/

DK won the first game vs Orange and Orange came back strongly the next day. DK can do the same to LGD.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 20 2014 03:25 GMT
#1191
With hindsight, that was a monumental derp moment not to go for the throne or megas when Lycan was still down for another 20+ seconds. It's actually a good thing we didn't have to play the remainder of the series immediately.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-20 03:28:53
July 20 2014 03:26 GMT
#1192
lanm is drafting for them and they are winning early/mid now, and their late game is their weakest phase. They are indecisive and lack the balls to finish up a game. I hope their coach fixes their mindset for tomorrow, cause i dont think lgd is the stronger team.
edit: With the way they played today they would definitely lose again to EG(the same way they lost the first game) even if they manage to advance.
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
July 20 2014 03:29 GMT
#1193
On July 20 2014 12:25 wuhan_clan wrote:
With hindsight, that was a monumental derp moment not to go for the throne or megas when Lycan was still down for another 20+ seconds. It's actually a good thing we didn't have to play the remainder of the series immediately.


With hindsight? I think a ton of people knew it at that very moment.
xalazias
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia32 Posts
July 20 2014 03:35 GMT
#1194
DK is so good at the art of the throw, ughhhhh. Won't watch tomorrow, will just check back afterward to see how they go. Not sure I can take watching them throw again.

I hope 71 shakes some sense into them. Glad they have a bit of a break to hopefully refocus. They're clearly the more talented team, but their decision-making has been crap lately.
we rise. we rise. we rise.
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
July 20 2014 04:08 GMT
#1195
I hope that game woke them up. This super safe "lets get 3 roshans before we actually fight" style is not going to get them anywhere. End the game when you can ugh.

Still rooting for DK, hopefully they can pull it off tomorrow, like how orange did last year.
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
znda
Profile Joined February 2009
United States16 Posts
July 20 2014 04:22 GMT
#1196
DK clearly didn't have the mindset of the champion today. Tomorrow they will have nothing to lose, so hopefully they will show their S level game.
Having been a DK fan since the team was created! Long live the KINGS
Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
July 20 2014 04:25 GMT
#1197
Ugh, reading this thread is depressing for me...

DK, why did you have to lose against EG?

I want both to advance... Or have them face each other at the Loser's final at least...
jimmydu444
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada250 Posts
July 20 2014 04:41 GMT
#1198
DK are not playing to win, they're playing to not lose. There is simply too much pressure on them to win, anything less is simply unacceptable.

I know that these players are veterans that have been to countless tournaments, but this time it's different. Lamn is retiring, and he himself said in the team intro how he must win this time. Burning is in a similar situation, although he may still continue to play after this tournament.

DK threw game 1 against both EG and LGD because they wanted to play "safe". If they don't get their shit together tomorrow, they will be knocked out. There will probably be a lot of tears, but this is something I've prepared myself to accept if it does indeed happen.

DK's greatest enemy is themselves, I want them to win, but they have to earn it.
I believe in Sets, The Rationals, LQG and PoltPrime.WE
cbk486
Profile Joined July 2014
154 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-20 05:26:08
July 20 2014 05:22 GMT
#1199
I saw some members of DK walking out of the arena before the start of the all-star match. Lanm and Mushi looked sad while 71 looked really pissed and was way ahead of them.

I figured that wasn't the best time to ask for an autograph... (I don't know where else to look for them though)


Why do you make my heart hurt DK?

EDIT: How did DK get this unstable before TI?
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
July 20 2014 05:46 GMT
#1200
On July 20 2014 14:22 cbk486 wrote:
EDIT: How did DK get this unstable before TI?


I think this squad has been unstable since its formation. I've jokingly referred to them as Cloud 9 East because of how erratic they are.

The squad has had highs and lows, and in a sense, greater and lesser extents to which it has overcome its problems, but the problems never completely go away. There are basically two problems. The one we're really talking about here, as I've mentioned, is DK's reluctance to press an advantage. The often seem aimless when they have leads, and this has sometimes resulted in the other team either catching up in farm or succeeding with some sort of pocket tactic. The other problem I think they've had that isn't so much in discussion right now is that they often have, in my opinion, rather disjointed team fights and sometimes player positioning that looks really out of sync.

The future is not decided yet, of course. While I don't think it's probable, it's possible DK might even go on to be the champs. But if DK do fall well short of expectations, I think the main lesson will be that a team of great players is not necessarily a great team.
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