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Updated: Miracle- to miss the Chongqing Major

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Liquid has released a statement that this is a private matter for Miracle and they do not want to discuss it further right now.

The rumour that it is visa related appears to be false.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 15:43:22
January 16 2019 12:22 GMT
#1

Liquid
to play with standin at the Major


Update 16/1 15:15 CET:
Team Liquid has provided us with a comment on the situation saying "Miracle has a private, personal matter to take care of. He is a very private person so we're not revealing what it is right now."



Reports have come in that Team Liquid will have to play The Chongqing Major without their starplayer Amer "Miracle-" Al-Barkawi. Information is scarce at the moment but this seems to be a last minute change as no information regarding this has been released by StarLadder, Valve, or Team Liquid themselves before today. At this point in time the closest to a full confirmation we have comes from Chinese carry player Chu "shadow" Zeyu, most known for winning TI6 with Wings Gaming, who edited his Doyu stream title to "I'll be back after playing for Liquid in the Major". Russian caster V1lat also tweeted out that Miracle- did not arrive in China with his team.



+ Show Spoiler [Old information] +
Some Redditor has speculated that Miracle's visa was retracted after some recent friction between the Polish and Chinese governments. While Miracle does hold a Polish passport, as his mother is Polish, the rumor does not hold up to scrutiny as Team Secret, through their manager CyborgMatt, has confirmed that their Polish player, Michał "Nisha" Jankowski, made it to China without any issues.


No matter what the reason is for Miracle's absence from the tournament, Liquid will have a harder time than expected. While Shadow is a quality player with a TI win under his belt, Miracle is one of the biggest stars on the Dota scene and a vital part of every Liquid win.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 16 2019 12:25 GMT
#2
Well, that changes the tournament. Hope everything is okay.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 16 2019 12:33 GMT
#3
Noooo really thought Liquid had good chances to win this, they dominated Megafon Winter Clash, wich even though it wasn't that competitive of a tournament it still had a lot of good teams.
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
January 16 2019 12:38 GMT
#4
This keeps happening!!
Liquid HerO Best Toss in the World
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
January 16 2019 12:54 GMT
#5
In my opinion this is bigger then the KuKu drama. KuKu and TNC made huge mistakes that justified a punishment. Liquid did nothing wrong. Miracle- did nothing wrong and he is still banned from the event the same way.

Is Valve really willing to risk to have a TI winner with a huge Asterísk because some of the best western players get "randomly" banned?
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 13:04:25
January 16 2019 13:02 GMT
#6
On January 16 2019 21:54 Micro_Jackson wrote:
In my opinion this is bigger then the KuKu drama. KuKu and TNC made huge mistakes that justified a punishment. Liquid did nothing wrong. Miracle- did nothing wrong and he is still banned from the event the same way.

Is Valve really willing to risk to have a TI winner with a huge Asterísk because some of the best western players get "randomly" banned?

Do you have ANY confirmation AT ALL that his visa with retracted, other than a single post from a Chinese forum saying that's the case? Can we PLEASE stop giving that post any attention at all?

Edit:
I just realized you commented here without even reading the post. I purposely included a section about why it's highly unlikely that the rumor on Reddit is true. Did you read that part?
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 13:12:30
January 16 2019 13:12 GMT
#7
On January 16 2019 22:02 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 21:54 Micro_Jackson wrote:
In my opinion this is bigger then the KuKu drama. KuKu and TNC made huge mistakes that justified a punishment. Liquid did nothing wrong. Miracle- did nothing wrong and he is still banned from the event the same way.

Is Valve really willing to risk to have a TI winner with a huge Asterísk because some of the best western players get "randomly" banned?

Do you have ANY confirmation AT ALL that his visa with retracted, other than a single post from a Chinese forum saying that's the case? Can we PLEASE stop giving that post any attention at all?

Edit:
I just realized you commented here without even reading the post. I purposely included a section about why it's highly unlikely that the rumor on Reddit is true. Did you read that part?


I am confused, you created a topic with the title "Miracle- to miss the Chongqing Major" and now you are saying it might not be true?

I usually assume that threads that are on the Community News section of the frontpage of Liquiddota are confirmed, especially if its a topic about a Liquid player/team.

I would be very happy to be wrong though.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 16 2019 13:15 GMT
#8
Where in the text do you see ANYTHING saying he's banned from the event? Where? Let me shock you: there might be multiple reasons why someone can't attend an event. *gasp*
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Tadenatesh
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
January 16 2019 13:19 GMT
#9
--- Nuked ---
mastayoda0805
Profile Joined December 2018
3 Posts
January 16 2019 13:28 GMT
#10
could be an illness or many more things, lets hope he is ok and will participate in other tournaments
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 16 2019 13:38 GMT
#11
On January 16 2019 22:12 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 22:02 Julmust wrote:
On January 16 2019 21:54 Micro_Jackson wrote:
In my opinion this is bigger then the KuKu drama. KuKu and TNC made huge mistakes that justified a punishment. Liquid did nothing wrong. Miracle- did nothing wrong and he is still banned from the event the same way.

Is Valve really willing to risk to have a TI winner with a huge Asterísk because some of the best western players get "randomly" banned?

Do you have ANY confirmation AT ALL that his visa with retracted, other than a single post from a Chinese forum saying that's the case? Can we PLEASE stop giving that post any attention at all?

Edit:
I just realized you commented here without even reading the post. I purposely included a section about why it's highly unlikely that the rumor on Reddit is true. Did you read that part?


I am confused, you created a topic with the title "Miracle- to miss the Chongqing Major" and now you are saying it might not be true?

I usually assume that threads that are on the Community News section of the frontpage of Liquiddota are confirmed, especially if its a topic about a Liquid player/team.

I would be very happy to be wrong though.


He said that the connection between "major in China" and "Miracle missing" is pure speculation.
You were talking about miracle getting randomly banned, which is just entirely unfounded.
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
January 16 2019 14:14 GMT
#12
I hope everything is fine.

still looking forward to TL playing
go boys
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 16 2019 14:20 GMT
#13
Updated the OP with a statement from TL
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 16 2019 14:50 GMT
#14
Fuck that sucks! And we were in top form again
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
January 16 2019 14:51 GMT
#15
On January 16 2019 23:20 Julmust wrote:
Updated the OP with a statement from TL


Well seems like i was wrong and jumped the gun on that.

Hope the issue can be resolved.
Sheamus
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
January 16 2019 14:53 GMT
#16
if you can't beat him ban him..........that wording on the statement is bad
Sheamus
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
January 16 2019 15:00 GMT
#17
On January 16 2019 22:02 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 21:54 Micro_Jackson wrote:
In my opinion this is bigger then the KuKu drama. KuKu and TNC made huge mistakes that justified a punishment. Liquid did nothing wrong. Miracle- did nothing wrong and he is still banned from the event the same way.

Is Valve really willing to risk to have a TI winner with a huge Asterísk because some of the best western players get "randomly" banned?

Do you have ANY confirmation AT ALL that his visa with retracted, other than a single post from a Chinese forum saying that's the case? Can we PLEASE stop giving that post any attention at all?

Edit:
I just realized you commented here without even reading the post. I purposely included a section about why it's highly unlikely that the rumor on Reddit is true. Did you read that part?




idk man

china holding Canadian diplomat because Canada arrested a Huawei executive

Poland arrested a Huawei director and one of its own former cybersecurity experts and charged them with spying for China. That comes amid a U.S. campaign to exert pressure on its allies not to use Huawei, the world’s biggest maker of telecommunications network equipment, over data security concerns.

Poland’s move has raised concerns over the safety of its nationals in China.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4844333/detained-canadian-michael-kovrig-china-diplomatic-immunity/
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 16 2019 15:00 GMT
#18
On January 16 2019 23:53 Sheamus wrote:
if you can't beat him ban him..........that wording on the statement is bad

What are you even on about? NOONE BANNED MIRACLE FROM THE TOURNAMENT
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
January 16 2019 15:07 GMT
#19
aw shucks

how will they communicate with shadow then? using chat wheel like secret did to cty?
anti12e
Profile Joined January 2019
1 Post
January 16 2019 15:19 GMT
#20
On January 17 2019 00:00 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 23:53 Sheamus wrote:
if you can't beat him ban him..........that wording on the statement is bad

What are you even on about? NOONE BANNED MIRACLE FROM THE TOURNAMENT


Don't randomly accuse people of banning others pls, Noone didn't ban anyone he's just a nice guy in VP MonkaS
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