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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 10 2012 09:19 GMT
#19921
On September 10 2012 18:05 paper wrote:
i prefer this picture: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335234#15

Definitely better
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
September 10 2012 09:22 GMT
#19922
I wish they would add the 100 different modes of dota. Gotta get my ardm on.
High Risk Low Reward
PromisE
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Philippines151 Posts
September 10 2012 09:39 GMT
#19923
^ and LoD They gotta have that mode for dota 2.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 10 2012 10:56 GMT
#19924
On September 10 2012 17:59 paper wrote:
does anyone remember that the old tp scroll used to make the building you were targeting invulnerable... so people would use it to try and save their towers?

#olddota

I remember this, people would chain tps one after another to keep the tower invulnerable as long as possible. Made it fucking hard to push towers down and made some games incredibly long. Was a brilliant idea by icefrog to remove that and add glyph instead.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 10 2012 11:04 GMT
#19925
Didnt think this deserved its own thread but I'm curious, how much ping variance do people normally get between servers? I have around 300-400 on US servers, 200-300 on EU and around 200 on most asian servers.
And on another point, is it even possible to ever successively play a hero that requires great last hitting if you have 300-400 ping?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 11:10:30
September 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#19926
I usually have about 90ping on EU servers, 200 on USE and 300-400on USW (Not variance just ping)
And yes it is, if your opponents are bad ^__^
I have a 100% hook accuracy on USW from my 1 pudge game
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 10 2012 11:10 GMT
#19927
80 on EU, 180 on USE, 250 on USW, 350 in SEA.

I play reasonably often on SEA due to having RL friends there. It becomes generally much harder to lane against competent opponents so I often resort to just playing support venomancer.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 10 2012 11:16 GMT
#19928
On September 10 2012 20:07 Porkz wrote:
I usually have about 90ping on EU servers, 200 on USE and 300-400on USW (Not variance just ping)
And yes it is, if your opponents are bad ^__^
I have a 100% hook accuracy on USW from my 1 pudge game


On September 10 2012 20:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
80 on EU, 180 on USE, 250 on USW, 350 in SEA.

I play reasonably often on SEA due to having RL friends there. It becomes generally much harder to lane against competent opponents so I often resort to just playing support venomancer.


Ah alright, thanks for the responses! This makes me feel a lot better, from the reactions i got in a pub yesterday when I said my ping was 300 I started to wonder If i'd only ever be able to play support effectively
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 10 2012 11:42 GMT
#19929
I don't know what I have on EU (I would assume 30-50ms) but on USE, I have 100ms, and I don't really notice it at all. I could imagine last hitting being hard if you're up close to 300ms though.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
September 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#19930
With regard to last hitting in regard to ping.

When I used to play Garena: 15-30ms ping last hitting was silk smooth.

USW at the best 160ms ping: I feel there is some delay on last hitting, but it's mostly ignorable. Maybe up to 15% of last hits lost due to delay.

USW on a bad day: 230ms ping: I can definitely feel the delay on last hitting, I'm missing 10->35% of last hits due to delay depending on how good the person I'm playing against is.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 10 2012 11:56 GMT
#19931
On September 10 2012 20:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
80 on EU, 180 on USE, 250 on USW, 350 in SEA.

I play reasonably often on SEA due to having RL friends there. It becomes generally much harder to lane against competent opponents so I often resort to just playing support venomancer.


you play on SEA from EU? I applaud you.
ffxiv enjoyer
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 10 2012 12:02 GMT
#19932
While a high ping might stop you from being the very best pro gamer, in pubs and scrims you can still play heroes that require some timing with 200-300 ping. 300-400 gets quite difficult, then you would want to play supports. Above that I wouldn't even try (more than once, at least).
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#19933
On September 10 2012 20:56 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 20:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
80 on EU, 180 on USE, 250 on USW, 350 in SEA.

I play reasonably often on SEA due to having RL friends there. It becomes generally much harder to lane against competent opponents so I often resort to just playing support venomancer.


you play on SEA from EU? I applaud you.

Yeah, my last two games there had me playing TA as my friends that couldn't play her randomed her twice in a row.

TA with 350 ping, what the fuck, you say?

https://dotabuff.com/matches/36940731
https://dotabuff.com/matches/36930569
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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
September 10 2012 12:26 GMT
#19934
yeah I usually get 40 ping on south america server, but people are so rude that i decided to play on USE, with about 180 ping
It took some time getting used to the small delay but I think as long as youre playing with less than 200 ping you're fine
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
September 10 2012 12:29 GMT
#19935
On September 10 2012 21:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 20:56 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On September 10 2012 20:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
80 on EU, 180 on USE, 250 on USW, 350 in SEA.

I play reasonably often on SEA due to having RL friends there. It becomes generally much harder to lane against competent opponents so I often resort to just playing support venomancer.


you play on SEA from EU? I applaud you.

Yeah, my last two games there had me playing TA as my friends that couldn't play her randomed her twice in a row.

TA with 350 ping, what the fuck, you say?

https://dotabuff.com/matches/36940731
https://dotabuff.com/matches/36930569


Lol.
Disregard lag, acquire monstrous K/D score
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 10 2012 12:39 GMT
#19936
50 ping on EU/Russia and 150 ping on US-E, but I don't notice any difference.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 10 2012 13:22 GMT
#19937
wow wtf did i post when i was half dying at 5am. i am a good support player yo!!!

I swear i had some 700+gpm with ursa or huskar stomping when i just started to play the game but dotabuff cant find it (only show some 650gpm which is like back to 5months ago).

The thing is i rather play semi (mainly hardlane mirana-_-) or support because i rage more when i play carry, you see the stupidest of all stupid shit like the support leeching your exp or 2v1 lane they stand behind letting the solo oppo hero get exp and gold WTF.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#19938
50+-10ms in eu and 200+-20ms in use/w. It is funny when i play with 200ms i feel like i am playing dota1 lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
September 10 2012 13:28 GMT
#19939
Been playing alot on SEA server as well. Its about 400-500 ms for me when I play from the EU. 1 Sec delay FTW.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#19940
Hmmm, the EGDL had mTw iirc.
Yeah, after checking, Fnatic replaced mTw, see the announcement here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366467
and the official site here
http://d2l.evilgeniuses.net/
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