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On September 10 2012 02:56 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 02:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On September 10 2012 02:19 Unleashing wrote: I went and tested AM jumping between lane and jungle with boots, bf, quelling blade, PMS. No problems what so ever. AM definitely loses health at ancients early on. Especially if you finish battlefury at level 9. I didn't go ancients though, i was jumping between normal jungle and lane without ever lacking anything to kill. But i think tranquil would solve that and let you do ancients, yea. quelling + PMS should be fine, i've done it plenty of times and have had no problems
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still talking if its possible to jungle with am after bf :D ??
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Netherlands45349 Posts
PA has relativly strong laning, she can do quick damage with blink strike, has a good slow with dagger on an 8(!) second cooldown which she can CS with aswell.
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Is EG vs Fnatic (Dota 2) being shown somewhere? Or SC2 first?
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Dota2 is tomorrow, sc2 today
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On September 10 2012 03:37 Qbek wrote: Dota2 is tomorrow, sc2 today So it starts at the same day as the EG league ._.
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On September 10 2012 02:56 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 02:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On September 10 2012 02:19 Unleashing wrote: I went and tested AM jumping between lane and jungle with boots, bf, quelling blade, PMS. No problems what so ever. AM definitely loses health at ancients early on. Especially if you finish battlefury at level 9. I didn't go ancients though, i was jumping between normal jungle and lane without ever lacking anything to kill. But i think tranquil would solve that and let you do ancients, yea.
You want to clear ancients though. They're great income and you're hurting yourself if you aren't clearing them.
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I've never found time to do the ancients if I was doing every camp and a lane. At least not at level 9.
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wow... holding control let you control both your summon and hero... this fucking screw me over when i play sylla bear bc my hand hover on ctrl a lot
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On September 10 2012 04:05 NB wrote:wow... holding control let you control both your summon and hero... this fucking screw me over when i play sylla bear bc my hand hover on ctrl a lot  It's an option under game - unified unit orders
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1. You can turn it off 2. Randomly pressing keys is a habit you should do your best to get rid off ASAP
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On September 10 2012 03:33 Kipsate wrote: PA has relativly strong laning, she can do quick damage with blink strike, has a good slow with dagger on an 8(!) second cooldown which she can CS with aswell. I don't see it. Granted, there's always a Sand King in lane against me, and my team is mostly of the opinion that PA doesn't need farm, but still. Strong laning looks different. If we're talking about carries, there's Naga and Juggernaut with much higher kill potential, while being harder to kill at the same time.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
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NS is in that game aswell.
As for PA and her laning Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.
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On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote: ^
NS is in that game aswell.
As for PA and her laning Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to. I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo.
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On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote: ^
NS is in that game aswell.
As for PA and her laning Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to. I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo. you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA ..
Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist
I think I made the record of worst Void ult ever when I tried to ks 2 enemies and they both died and I ended up ulting 4 teammates only -.- Damn I'm bad at Void
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On September 10 2012 04:26 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote: ^
NS is in that game aswell.
As for PA and her laning Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to. I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo. you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA .. Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist Yeah, I've lost. But I'm 10-3 with Juggernaut, 10-5 with DK, 5-4 with AM, 7-4 with Naga, 7-5 with Riki, 5-2 with Spectre, 13-10 with FV...etc etc. The games I've won I won them by getting fed in lane i.e. winning it hard. I'm 5-11 with PA.
And I didn't ignore it. I said "I don't see it". I still don't. Yeah, 4 seconds slow is awesome, but if nobody ganks the lane it does shit-all. And ganking with her is way too risky against most lineups.
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On September 10 2012 04:35 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 04:26 Shikyo wrote:On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote: ^
NS is in that game aswell.
As for PA and her laning Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to. I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo. you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA .. Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist Yeah, I've lost. But I'm 10-3 with Juggernaut, 10-5 with DK, 5-4 with AM, 7-4 with Naga, 7-5 with Riki, 5-2 with Spectre, 13-10 with FV...etc etc. The games I've won I won them by getting fed in lane i.e. winning it hard. I'm 5-11 with PA. And I didn't ignore it. I said "I don't see it". I still don't. Yeah, 4 seconds slow is awesome, but if nobody ganks the lane it does shit-all. And ganking with her is way too risky against most lineups.
You're clearly not shikyo level
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ4MTg2MjUy.html
the official iG finals highlight video
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On September 10 2012 04:38 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 04:35 ChrisXIV wrote:On September 10 2012 04:26 Shikyo wrote:On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote: ^
NS is in that game aswell.
As for PA and her laning Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to. I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo. you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA .. Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist Yeah, I've lost. But I'm 10-3 with Juggernaut, 10-5 with DK, 5-4 with AM, 7-4 with Naga, 7-5 with Riki, 5-2 with Spectre, 13-10 with FV...etc etc. The games I've won I won them by getting fed in lane i.e. winning it hard. I'm 5-11 with PA. And I didn't ignore it. I said "I don't see it". I still don't. Yeah, 4 seconds slow is awesome, but if nobody ganks the lane it does shit-all. And ganking with her is way too risky against most lineups. You're clearly not shikyo level http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ4MTg2MjUy.htmlthe official iG finals highlight video Yeah I'm not, I thought that was obvious. Didn't play that much Dota 1, and that was 6 years ago or something.
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