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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 09 2012 18:22 GMT
#19761
On September 10 2012 02:56 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 02:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 10 2012 02:19 Unleashing wrote:
I went and tested AM jumping between lane and jungle with boots, bf, quelling blade, PMS.
No problems what so ever.


AM definitely loses health at ancients early on. Especially if you finish battlefury at level 9.

I didn't go ancients though, i was jumping between normal jungle and lane without ever lacking anything to kill.
But i think tranquil would solve that and let you do ancients, yea.

quelling + PMS should be fine, i've done it plenty of times and have had no problems
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 09 2012 18:32 GMT
#19762
still talking if its possible to jungle with am after bf :D ??
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#19763
PA has relativly strong laning, she can do quick damage with blink strike, has a good slow with dagger on an 8(!) second cooldown which she can CS with aswell.
WriterXiao8~~
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 09 2012 18:36 GMT
#19764
Is EG vs Fnatic (Dota 2) being shown somewhere? Or SC2 first?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#19765
Dota2 is tomorrow, sc2 today
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 09 2012 18:38 GMT
#19766
On September 10 2012 03:37 Qbek wrote:
Dota2 is tomorrow, sc2 today

So it starts at the same day as the EG league ._.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 09 2012 18:41 GMT
#19767
Yeah but 3 hours earlier
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 09 2012 18:56 GMT
#19768
On September 10 2012 02:56 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 02:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 10 2012 02:19 Unleashing wrote:
I went and tested AM jumping between lane and jungle with boots, bf, quelling blade, PMS.
No problems what so ever.


AM definitely loses health at ancients early on. Especially if you finish battlefury at level 9.

I didn't go ancients though, i was jumping between normal jungle and lane without ever lacking anything to kill.
But i think tranquil would solve that and let you do ancients, yea.


You want to clear ancients though. They're great income and you're hurting yourself if you aren't clearing them.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#19769
I've never found time to do the ancients if I was doing every camp and a lane. At least not at level 9.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#19770
wow... holding control let you control both your summon and hero... this fucking screw me over when i play sylla bear bc my hand hover on ctrl a lot
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#19771
On September 10 2012 04:05 NB wrote:
wow... holding control let you control both your summon and hero... this fucking screw me over when i play sylla bear bc my hand hover on ctrl a lot

It's an option under game - unified unit orders
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 09 2012 19:06 GMT
#19772
1. You can turn it off
2. Randomly pressing keys is a habit you should do your best to get rid off ASAP
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#19773
On September 10 2012 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
PA has relativly strong laning, she can do quick damage with blink strike, has a good slow with dagger on an 8(!) second cooldown which she can CS with aswell.

I don't see it. Granted, there's always a Sand King in lane against me, and my team is mostly of the opinion that PA doesn't need farm, but still. Strong laning looks different. If we're talking about carries, there's Naga and Juggernaut with much higher kill potential, while being harder to kill at the same time.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 19:13:31
September 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#19774
Dendi and friends playing vs infused right now: http://www.twitch.tv/ggnetsheever

Dendi playing pudge
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 19:16:34
September 09 2012 19:12 GMT
#19775
^

NS is in that game aswell.

As for PA and her laning
Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.
WriterXiao8~~
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 09 2012 19:21 GMT
#19776
On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote:
^

NS is in that game aswell.

As for PA and her laning
Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.

I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 19:31:58
September 09 2012 19:26 GMT
#19777
On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote:
^

NS is in that game aswell.

As for PA and her laning
Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.

I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo.

you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA ..

Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist


I think I made the record of worst Void ult ever when I tried to ks 2 enemies and they both died and I ended up ulting 4 teammates only -.- Damn I'm bad at Void
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 09 2012 19:35 GMT
#19778
On September 10 2012 04:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:
On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote:
^

NS is in that game aswell.

As for PA and her laning
Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.

I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo.

you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA ..

Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist

Yeah, I've lost. But I'm 10-3 with Juggernaut, 10-5 with DK, 5-4 with AM, 7-4 with Naga, 7-5 with Riki, 5-2 with Spectre, 13-10 with FV...etc etc. The games I've won I won them by getting fed in lane i.e. winning it hard. I'm 5-11 with PA.

And I didn't ignore it. I said "I don't see it". I still don't. Yeah, 4 seconds slow is awesome, but if nobody ganks the lane it does shit-all. And ganking with her is way too risky against most lineups.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 09 2012 19:38 GMT
#19779
On September 10 2012 04:35 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 04:26 Shikyo wrote:
On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:
On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote:
^

NS is in that game aswell.

As for PA and her laning
Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.

I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo.

you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA ..

Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist

Yeah, I've lost. But I'm 10-3 with Juggernaut, 10-5 with DK, 5-4 with AM, 7-4 with Naga, 7-5 with Riki, 5-2 with Spectre, 13-10 with FV...etc etc. The games I've won I won them by getting fed in lane i.e. winning it hard. I'm 5-11 with PA.

And I didn't ignore it. I said "I don't see it". I still don't. Yeah, 4 seconds slow is awesome, but if nobody ganks the lane it does shit-all. And ganking with her is way too risky against most lineups.


You're clearly not shikyo level

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ4MTg2MjUy.html

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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 09 2012 19:39 GMT
#19780
On September 10 2012 04:38 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 04:35 ChrisXIV wrote:
On September 10 2012 04:26 Shikyo wrote:
On September 10 2012 04:21 ChrisXIV wrote:
On September 10 2012 04:12 Kipsate wrote:
^

NS is in that game aswell.

As for PA and her laning
Well if you compare any melee laning hero to Naga then yeah they will suck, but compared to Faceless Void or AM she has much stronger laning. She has kill potential much sooner then other heroes and the ability to farm(with dagger) while other carries are unable to.

I don't see it. I don't lose the laning phase with other carries that hard, and I play a lot of them. If you have to resort to using Dagger as your only way to farm, you've already lost imo.

you've already lost on other carries than PA. Also sometimes you just can't run up to get the lasthit vs like a double stunner lane or a trilane but you can with PA ..

Also you ignored the thing about kill potential, as I've said PA has super strong gank assist

Yeah, I've lost. But I'm 10-3 with Juggernaut, 10-5 with DK, 5-4 with AM, 7-4 with Naga, 7-5 with Riki, 5-2 with Spectre, 13-10 with FV...etc etc. The games I've won I won them by getting fed in lane i.e. winning it hard. I'm 5-11 with PA.

And I didn't ignore it. I said "I don't see it". I still don't. Yeah, 4 seconds slow is awesome, but if nobody ganks the lane it does shit-all. And ganking with her is way too risky against most lineups.


You're clearly not shikyo level

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ4MTg2MjUy.html

the official iG finals highlight video

Yeah I'm not, I thought that was obvious. Didn't play that much Dota 1, and that was 6 years ago or something.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
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