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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#46701
I think I have too many tickets, guys

http://i.imgur.com/jCaMTUT.jpg
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 09 2013 04:43 GMT
#46702
On March 09 2013 13:19 WindWolf wrote:
Is the bugs that crashes the game still there? I wanna play the game, now that I have a chance this weekend.


its a little better, it definitely isnt happening every game now like before
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 05:14:50
March 09 2013 05:14 GMT
#46703
On March 09 2013 12:36 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 07:05 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On March 09 2013 05:20 solidbebe wrote:
On March 09 2013 05:13 kollin wrote:
I absolutely suck at learning different languages :D

What a stupid reason ~___~

Your future you would be so grateful if you learned an extra language now ( or at least made a beginning)


When I was younger, I absolutely hated learning Chinese, till I eventually gave up completely

... of course, that was before I knew about the competitive DotA scene. I regret my decision so much now.

Screw learning chinese, there are 2 billion people who can translate for you.

That number seems a little... off. (unless you mean people who literally can just speak both languages at even the smallest level of skill). Factor in how difficult translating can be and it's a lot smaller.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 09 2013 06:39 GMT
#46704
So, Bloodseeker has a better competitive record than Spectre in like. The past few months. Discuss.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 09 2013 06:48 GMT
#46705
On March 09 2013 15:39 Shaella wrote:
So, Bloodseeker has a better competitive record than Spectre in like. The past few months. Discuss.

Spectre is terrible and picking her over better carries is just stupid. Bloodseeker is of slight worth in very specific situations.

Not much to discuss really.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
March 09 2013 07:17 GMT
#46706
On March 09 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 13:19 WindWolf wrote:
Is the bugs that crashes the game still there? I wanna play the game, now that I have a chance this weekend.


its a little better, it definitely isnt happening every game now like before

I picked Jakiro and it worked fine for me, No crash or anything.

___


Got back from Dota2 after a two week break. Got a victory!
EZ4ENCE
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
March 09 2013 08:33 GMT
#46707
On March 09 2013 16:17 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
On March 09 2013 13:19 WindWolf wrote:
Is the bugs that crashes the game still there? I wanna play the game, now that I have a chance this weekend.


its a little better, it definitely isnt happening every game now like before

I picked Jakiro and it worked fine for me, No crash or anything.

___


Got back from Dota2 after a two week break. Got a victory!


Yeah I got back from Dota2 after a week break as well. Now I am on a streak... won last 18 out of 22 games :D
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
March 09 2013 08:36 GMT
#46708
On March 09 2013 17:33 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 16:17 WindWolf wrote:
On March 09 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
On March 09 2013 13:19 WindWolf wrote:
Is the bugs that crashes the game still there? I wanna play the game, now that I have a chance this weekend.


its a little better, it definitely isnt happening every game now like before

I picked Jakiro and it worked fine for me, No crash or anything.

___


Got back from Dota2 after a two week break. Got a victory!


Yeah I got back from Dota2 after a week break as well. Now I am on a streak... won last 18 out of 22 games :D

The reason for my break was that I had alot of school work to do, and I have more to come. But hey, I play to have fun, no big deal if I don't get to play much.

As for streaks, I'm doing ok recently IMO, but when I started playing I was 11-2 at one point
EZ4ENCE
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
March 09 2013 08:38 GMT
#46709
On March 09 2013 17:36 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 17:33 Frost wrote:
On March 09 2013 16:17 WindWolf wrote:
On March 09 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
On March 09 2013 13:19 WindWolf wrote:
Is the bugs that crashes the game still there? I wanna play the game, now that I have a chance this weekend.


its a little better, it definitely isnt happening every game now like before

I picked Jakiro and it worked fine for me, No crash or anything.

___


Got back from Dota2 after a two week break. Got a victory!


Yeah I got back from Dota2 after a week break as well. Now I am on a streak... won last 18 out of 22 games :D

The reason for my break was that I had alot of school work to do, and I have more to come. But hey, I play to have fun, no big deal if I don't get to play much.

As for streaks, I'm doing ok recently IMO, but when I started playing I was 11-2 at one point


Yeah I also had a lot of school work to do haha I feel ya buddy. Finals in 2 weeks. college life yolo.
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
March 09 2013 08:44 GMT
#46710
Does MM really make your win % below 50%? Someone said that to me
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 09 2013 08:45 GMT
#46711
On March 09 2013 17:44 Delphiki wrote:
Does MM really make your win % below 50%? Someone said that to me

No. Why would it do that?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 09 2013 08:52 GMT
#46712
On March 09 2013 17:44 Delphiki wrote:
Does MM really make your win % below 50%? Someone said that to me

No, MM doesn't force you into a 50% winrate, but the average player will end up around a 50% winrate once they plateau at the skill level they belong to.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 09 2013 09:04 GMT
#46713
actually it does if you solo queue exclusively. The queue time will be significantly longer every time you are on a streak and i will try to match you with stacked(party) who have their MMR multiplied by the party bonus. Since the way they match people is grabbing 10 and dividing by 2, imbalance teams in a stacked game is unavoidable, especially if the members of the party dont have a close MMR gap.

Thats not to say the match making behavior is also different from sever to sever due to the differences in cultural match making and play style. From my personal experience, you are more likely to get a match that is fit your MMR on EU West rather than US East West.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
March 09 2013 09:06 GMT
#46714
Isn't impossible to have everyone below 50% anyway ?
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
March 09 2013 09:07 GMT
#46715
On March 09 2013 18:04 NB wrote:
actually it does if you solo queue exclusively. The queue time will be significantly longer every time you are on a streak and i will try to match you with stacked(party) who have their MMR multiplied by the party bonus. Since the way they match people is grabbing 10 and dividing by 2, imbalance teams in a stacked game is unavoidable, especially if the members of the party dont have a close MMR gap.

No, it doesn't.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 09 2013 09:08 GMT
#46716
i hope no one actually believes nb
cuz lol
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
March 09 2013 09:09 GMT
#46717
On March 09 2013 18:06 ArcticRaven wrote:
Isn't impossible to have everyone below 50% anyway ?

Yeah it is. Add all people's wins and loses and it's going to be 50-50
EZ4ENCE
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 09 2013 09:13 GMT
#46718
On March 09 2013 18:04 NB wrote:
actually it does if you solo queue exclusively. The queue time will be significantly longer every time you are on a streak and i will try to match you with stacked(party) who have their MMR multiplied by the party bonus. Since the way they match people is grabbing 10 and dividing by 2, imbalance teams in a stacked game is unavoidable, especially if the members of the party dont have a close MMR gap.

Thats not to say the match making behavior is also different from sever to sever due to the differences in cultural match making and play style. From my personal experience, you are more likely to get a match that is fit your MMR on EU West rather than US East West.

>this is what people actually believe

I solo que exclusively and i've held a consistant 54/55 WR thorugh all my matches. Whoa, its almost like i'm being matched against people of roughly equal skill

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 09 2013 09:23 GMT
#46719
how do you code a skill based MMR system that does not enforce 50% winrate when the sample size grow big?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 09 2013 09:27 GMT
#46720
On March 09 2013 18:23 NB wrote:
how do you code a skill based MMR system that does not enforce 50% winrate when the sample size grow big?

you're assuming the goal of the matchmaking system is to enforce 50% WR
In reality, its trying to make equal matches happen, every time, so if you reach that proper skill level, your winrate should stabilize and slowly drop towards 50% as a result of the stabilization

Seriously. Are you stupid? Its not the goal, its a side effect.

And as we all know, WR =/= skill level or MMR.

User was warned for this post
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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