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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 29 2012 09:16 GMT
#22441
On September 29 2012 18:15 heishe wrote:
So, Icefrog works on WC3 Dota and Dota 2 in parallel?

Yeah, thou pretty sure so close to 6.75 its wc3 exclusively
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 29 2012 09:16 GMT
#22442
On September 29 2012 18:14 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 18:02 Yoshi- wrote:
Godz twittered something about G1 league doing dota2

I heard they wanted LAN first in dota2, so we might be getting that. might be just them thou too


That was G-League, what i linked was G1-League.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 29 2012 09:17 GMT
#22443
On September 29 2012 18:16 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 18:14 Qbek wrote:
On September 29 2012 18:02 Yoshi- wrote:
Godz twittered something about G1 league doing dota2
https://twitter.com/GGnetGoDz/status/251957502403567616

I heard they wanted LAN first in dota2, so we might be getting that. might be just them thou too


That was G-League, what i linked was G1-League.

Heh, it's typo level similar names xD
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
September 29 2012 09:22 GMT
#22444
On September 29 2012 18:16 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 18:15 heishe wrote:
So, Icefrog works on WC3 Dota and Dota 2 in parallel?

Yeah, thou pretty sure so close to 6.75 its wc3 exclusively

Last time the changes for wc3 were ported to Dota 2 within a week.
Road to 6sange
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 29 2012 09:24 GMT
#22445
On September 29 2012 18:22 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 18:16 Qbek wrote:
On September 29 2012 18:15 heishe wrote:
So, Icefrog works on WC3 Dota and Dota 2 in parallel?

Yeah, thou pretty sure so close to 6.75 its wc3 exclusively

Last time the changes for wc3 were ported to Dota 2 within a week.

Yeah but bugs in wc3 are only dealt with by Ice, valve prolly just gets a changelog and ports it
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 29 2012 09:53 GMT
#22446
On September 29 2012 18:11 tauon wrote:
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On September 29 2012 17:35 LAN-f34r wrote:
I don't understand how I can have better ping from USW servers than from SEA servers.

Some ISPs re-route stuff through US West and then back to SEA.


AFAIK this is only some Aussie ISPs, but I haven't looked into it much. If that is the reason then I mean it in the same way I mean "why would you go dagon+MoM omniknight?" (as in, where did you put your intelligence kind of tone).
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 29 2012 09:56 GMT
#22447
So now we are eagerly awaiting 6.75
can't wait!

Tried Meepo in a bot match, never again will I touch him, lack the brain coordination to play him
"Yeah buddy"
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 10:02:15
September 29 2012 09:59 GMT
#22448
On September 29 2012 17:14 konadora wrote:
holy shit man, the new moscow 5 and empire are just... so good omg


You are right ! Empire is so good, I love their style.

They use wisp at its perfection, I enjoy so much seeing them play ^^.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
September 29 2012 10:33 GMT
#22449
6.75 will be weird. Roshan cave moved?

I don't think that the imbalance between Raidiant/Dire is that huge to signify changing the map completely...?
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 29 2012 10:34 GMT
#22450
On September 29 2012 19:33 ReignSupreme. wrote:
6.75 will be weird. Roshan cave moved?

I don't think that the imbalance between Raidiant/Dire is that huge to signify changing the map completely...?

source ?
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 29 2012 10:40 GMT
#22451
On September 29 2012 16:55 NB wrote:
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On September 29 2012 15:18 BurningSera wrote:
And you wonder why the zenith dudes let him sit out from drafting game......knew zenith won't go far in TI2 once i saw that (or rather i don't want them to go far by treating loda like that).

DotA is a team game, Loda pretty much completely new to the team and dont understand team playstyle while he is a good player who can play pretty much every heroes at any role. Its a good decision for the team. A lot of team there you see them even picking with each other but actually thats all 1 man job on ban/pick and the rest of the team just play.


You don't just sit away from the team while the rest of the team is surrounding the drafter during drafting. That is very bad leadership and poor teamwork mentality. You can see every other team is either all surrounding drafter during drafting or like lgd where all of them communicating in the drafting chat. Being captain is a thing, being a good leader is another thing.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 29 2012 10:46 GMT
#22452
I think changing the roshan pit would be the wrong move. The map favours dire, yet the draft favours radiant. You can't fix first pick (except I guess by balancing all the heroes, but with ~100 of them that just isn't realistic), so you just counter it with roshan advantage.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 29 2012 10:47 GMT
#22453
No way rosh pit is getting changed. No way.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 29 2012 10:47 GMT
#22454
On September 29 2012 19:46 LAN-f34r wrote:
I think changing the roshan pit would be the wrong move. The map favours dire, yet the draft favours radiant. You can't fix first pick (except I guess by balancing all the heroes, but with ~100 of them that just isn't realistic), so you just counter it with roshan advantage.

You can ban in a way that second pick becomes much better than first pick, ofc you can play around the map advantage too. Also the changes were wild speculations for the most part, we will see soon
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
September 29 2012 10:53 GMT
#22455
rosh pit change is going to fundamentally change dota, it's way too huge and sensitive to be changed. of course, it's icefrog so...
POGGERS
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 10:57:41
September 29 2012 10:57 GMT
#22456
It won't be changed into CM mode instantly, thats not how Icefrog works, he will test it for a prolonged time before adding it to CM mode and competitive competitions. We will have adequate time to test the consequences of it, remember that Wisp, Rubick and thrall were all out for a very long time and were only added to CM mode a couple months ago.
WriterXiao8~~
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 29 2012 11:15 GMT
#22457
On September 29 2012 19:57 Kipsate wrote:
It won't be changed into CM mode instantly, thats not how Icefrog works, he will test it for a prolonged time before adding it to CM mode and competitive competitions. We will have adequate time to test the consequences of it, remember that Wisp, Rubick and thrall were all out for a very long time and were only added to CM mode a couple months ago.


If that's the case we are talking about at least 1 year as testing period, probably 2.5 years i'd bet on that.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 29 2012 11:16 GMT
#22458
On September 29 2012 20:15 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 19:57 Kipsate wrote:
It won't be changed into CM mode instantly, thats not how Icefrog works, he will test it for a prolonged time before adding it to CM mode and competitive competitions. We will have adequate time to test the consequences of it, remember that Wisp, Rubick and thrall were all out for a very long time and were only added to CM mode a couple months ago.


If that's the case we are talking about at least 1 year as testing period, probably 2.5 years i'd bet on that.

Nobody says it wasn't internally tested for the last 4 months. Dota beta testers are pretty legit players
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
September 29 2012 11:23 GMT
#22459
I have a hard time seeing how it would be changed and how it would be for the better. Not that I doubt Icefrog, but I just can't think of how it would be done. :o
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 29 2012 11:24 GMT
#22460
On September 29 2012 20:16 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 20:15 BurningSera wrote:
On September 29 2012 19:57 Kipsate wrote:
It won't be changed into CM mode instantly, thats not how Icefrog works, he will test it for a prolonged time before adding it to CM mode and competitive competitions. We will have adequate time to test the consequences of it, remember that Wisp, Rubick and thrall were all out for a very long time and were only added to CM mode a couple months ago.


If that's the case we are talking about at least 1 year as testing period, probably 2.5 years i'd bet on that.

Nobody says it wasn't internally tested for the last 4 months. Dota beta testers are pretty legit players


It doesn't work like that though (i will not go into how long we tested some new hero back then and the amount of dota1 beta testers are active atm) and especially you are now talking about drastic map change. If anything some slight tweaks on the choke points etc around the rosh pit are more likely to happen (which has always been a talk since forever anyway).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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