sorry but the skill level from iccup = realy realy high if you play in korean hour .

for fact , i was A in pgtour under 30 loss ( yes another a+ a who say that blablabla for all i care )
and im curently C+ and got winning ratio of about 65 % . pgtour was realy realy more easy .

people are realy good in iccup and the top foreigner got a realy hard time to get pass only c+ , unless they play bad player or dont play in korean hour that not easy .

so plz stop say that easy , where most people here dont even play iccup or are not more high that d+ c- .

unless you link me to your accout who got B- or better , if you reply to that , say your rank too .

kdog3683

United States916 Posts

June 27 2007 04:05 GMT

#44

leejungterran if you are smi.kira, it is impossible for you to have ever been A even if your skill decreased 99% since then.

Tarmak_mk

Macedonia410 Posts

June 27 2007 04:45 GMT

#45

on B- rank with that crazy korean's its very hard to play i think even best euro skilled players like testie, monid, sen and some other will have lot of problem's if not play cheese.

Jrwriter

Canada76 Posts

June 27 2007 04:58 GMT

#46

Kira coulnt get B+ let alone A- i dont even think kira can get B enough with this A rank bullshit i dont believe any of you

tehsex

296 Posts

June 27 2007 05:22 GMT

#47

what?

SK.Testie

Canada11084 Posts

June 27 2007 05:26 GMT

#48

The skill is being over rated.
But yes, there are plenty of fine players with a few really great ones like nal_keke.

FirstBorn

Romania3955 Posts

June 27 2007 05:28 GMT

#49

K... Let this just be. Jack is a really good player. I saw him beat Spain B 2v2 all by himself. I don't know why ppl just won't stop talkin about X who was A/A+ on pgt and now him stats on iccup don't match. Just let the season end and judge then.

merz

Sweden2760 Posts

June 27 2007 05:29 GMT

#50

On June 27 2007 10:48 Kassios wrote:

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yea yea it's really strange since PGTour is over everyone seemed to be A/A+

Well.. any decent player (i'd say around c2-b6 wgt) would be able to get A-/A or even A+ if they're "better than decent". Any decent player can get to B1 B0 at WGT hence both PGT and WGT are massgaming ladders. Meaning massagaming > good win ratio. You could have like 300-289 A+ on wgt, does that make you gosu? no.

BinGBonG[gamei]

Netherlands514 Posts

June 27 2007 05:30 GMT

#51

interdog is 100% sure not inter.calm hes in [sam] only thing i say go figure out urselfs~~

Kassios

France1424 Posts

June 27 2007 05:39 GMT

#52

who is TL_Types?
edit: ups sry I didnt see he's soO

FalliNinLove

Slovakia865 Posts

June 27 2007 05:47 GMT

#53

If u had A+ in pgt you were amazing player and yes it does make you gosu no matter the stats.

FalliNinLove

Slovakia865 Posts

June 27 2007 05:49 GMT

#54

All good players are basicly just mass players, you dont become good overnight, like GGPlay on wgt he was 50:50 stats or beggarterran was A+ but also some 50:50 stats , or i think bisu also had some shitty stats on pgt.

rANDY

United Kingdom748 Posts

June 27 2007 06:04 GMT

#55

[pG]FisheYe fake? he told me he was real but im not sure

kidd

United States2848 Posts

June 27 2007 06:11 GMT

#56

Jack plays a different style that involves alot of dropship usage, which he executes very well, plus keeping up high macro. I could definitely see him being on a higher echelon of player.

Leejungterran

Korea (South)572 Posts

June 27 2007 06:29 GMT

#57

On June 27 2007 13:05 kdog3683 wrote:
leejungterran if you are smi.kira, it is impossible for you to have ever been A even if your skill decreased 99% since then.

belive in the power of the 1%
1 = 0.99999 = 0.99 % = power

Pika Chu

Romania2510 Posts

June 27 2007 06:44 GMT

#58

Jack is a very good terran player. He was one of the key players in our ex-national team (which is dead now) and beat alot of good opponents.
He was A on pgt but that doesn't matter. He is cappable of beating anyone (foreign scene ofc).
Just because certain people are "unknown" and "underrated" doesn't mean that they are bad.
Also Jack is a mass gamer who is not playing for points in ladders, that's why you will see him with lots of games played and bad ratio (he likes to test strategies alot).

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

June 27 2007 07:16 GMT

#59

anyone know who this is ?

i saw some reps of him from ig.clouds rep pack and i like his style http://www.iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=77294

NuclearAntelope

United States1369 Posts

June 27 2007 07:22 GMT

#60

On June 27 2007 14:49 FalliNinLove wrote:
All good players are basicly just mass players, you dont become good overnight, like GGPlay on wgt he was 50:50 stats or beggarterran was A+ but also some 50:50 stats , or i think bisu also had some shitty stats on pgt.

bisu made the ultimate rank with like 76% wins and 80% pvz, not quite shitty

I agree with you though...you have to know what you're doing to make A+. At the A level you gain 10 points for going 1-1 on a MOTW, and lose 20 points on a non-MOTW.