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Kassios
Profile Joined May 2006
France1424 Posts
June 29 2007 06:03 GMT
#181
If they are playing on iccup I dont think they play their main race since there is no one with 100% ratio in the top50
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
June 29 2007 06:13 GMT
#182
true, but if we keep hearing of more and more pros playing the ladder, then they have to give each other losses when they run into each other and they can also slip up vs top korean amateurs or against team sparring partners. still i doubt those S-class pros are playing.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
June 29 2007 06:14 GMT
#183
Kassios I tend to agree with you that someone like nada or bisu would most likely have an untarnished record so far, but if you remember back when pgtour was up and running, some amature players did take games away from the pros. My example being the game where Dunaj beat Iloveoov. All im trying to imply is that there is no set guarantee for a progamer to have a perfect record, and due to the fact that they are still human (although their coaches are currently working on that lol) they will still from time to time make a mistake big enough to cost them a game!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 29 2007 06:40 GMT
#184
On June 29 2007 14:26 Oldy2 wrote:
-----> http://download.yousendit.com/DDB70A813DD29CEB (mistrzzz vs tt1 scouts 5pool perfect counter build note that in the reps vs shaman he never cross scouts)

-----> http://www.meetyourmakers.com/download/r10209.html (mistrzzz vs shaman, doesnt see tech but goes mass zeal speed to counter 4hatch hydra)

http://www.meetyourmakers.com/download/r10208.html (mistrzzz vs shaman2 fe build)

http://www.meetyourmakers.com/download/r10207.html (mistrzzz vs shaman 3 fe build)

-----> http://www.meetyourmakers.com/download/r10206.html (mistrzzz vs shaman4 shaman goes 5pool mistrzzz does only 2 gate build of the series to perfectly counter the 5pool as he did in the rep vs TT1)


mistrzzz vs tt1, tt1 5pools mistrzzz sends probe for fe then sends back and makes pylon in base then puts probe for mine then takes it out after 1 mine cus which was really weird, then he cross scouts on luna (scouts from 11 to 5) and also has perfect defencive 2 gate to counter the 5pool on luna, while you can see from his other reps also he never cross scouts
let me start by saying that i'd really love to see mistrzzz being caught as a hacker, but those replays don't prove much, if anything.

that 10206.rep: only retards use the same build in every game anyway, theres nothing wrong with mixing up your builds and 2 gating at your outer choke isn't exactly unusual on arcadia. the fact that it happened in a game in which shaman 5 pools could very well be luck, zero proof here.

the 10207.rep: personally if find this one much more fishy..., look at how he sends a probe from his nexus towards the upper side of his base just at the very last split second to see the overlord disappear on the cliff so that he can redirect his scouting probe from 3 to 9 instead of scouting 12 with it....

that 10209.rep: people go fe into speedzeal timing attack all the time in pvz, not exactly fishy -.-

mistrzzz vs tt1: look closely. he doesnt send it to FE! it stops where he wants tu put the pylon, then moves a bit up and a bit down again, probably because he was clicking it like a madman being bored... scouting cross positions when wanting to 2 gate isnt fishy either. however, sending that scout probe kinda randomly between starting the pylon and starting the gate (as opposed to either directly after pyl or after gate) is weird, I agree.

not enough to prove anything
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-29 06:45:25
June 29 2007 06:44 GMT
#185
Ya and even the "suspicious" play that carnac mentioned isn't all that suspicious. I have known several good p players that I know for sure don't hack use a probe to check overlord path from a given position at a certain timing. Happens a lot on maps like LT and Gaia. For example 12 vs 3, protoss might send probe over to the left ledge from 3 before scouting so they don't have to send scout to 12, then can go right to 6. So it could've just been luck as well that he happened to catch it just as it went over the cliff.
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SpineS
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada14 Posts
June 29 2007 07:23 GMT
#186
On June 29 2007 14:58 NonY[rC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2007 13:58 Leejungterran wrote:
On June 29 2007 13:42 SpineS wrote:
dustmqduftlagl = Bifrost[Name]
WanSoSeul = By.Fantasy

I'm sure at 100%


agree about that , also Nada and bisu play in iccup
try to find them ^^


how do you know? and if you are sure they are playing, do you know if they are playing main race?


I'm 100% sure because I'm the leader of r.Def-. dust and wansoseul are in re definition.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
June 29 2007 09:09 GMT
#187
I've never heard of r.Def- before. Is it just some random ICCUP team or is it indeed a guild?
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Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
June 29 2007 10:13 GMT
#188
ok...YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO OTHER PEOPLE PLEASE USE THE PM'S. THIS IS FOR WHO IS WHO AT ICCup NOT CATCH THE HACKER.

On another note i'll update later tonight.
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
June 29 2007 10:34 GMT
#189
On June 29 2007 15:44 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Ya and even the "suspicious" play that carnac mentioned isn't all that suspicious. I have known several good p players that I know for sure don't hack use a probe to check overlord path from a given position at a certain timing. Happens a lot on maps like LT and Gaia. For example 12 vs 3, protoss might send probe over to the left ledge from 3 before scouting so they don't have to send scout to 12, then can go right to 6. So it could've just been luck as well that he happened to catch it just as it went over the cliff.


LOL! I'm a noob and I do that.. Nothing strange..
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7219 Posts
June 29 2007 10:45 GMT
#190
On June 29 2007 15:14 eXigent. wrote:
Kassios I tend to agree with you that someone like nada or bisu would most likely have an untarnished record so far, but if you remember back when pgtour was up and running, some amature players did take games away from the pros. My example being the game where Dunaj beat Iloveoov. All im trying to imply is that there is no set guarantee for a progamer to have a perfect record, and due to the fact that they are still human (although their coaches are currently working on that lol) they will still from time to time make a mistake big enough to cost them a game!




ya if they get bored and piss around they can lose.

OOV did some gay dropship strat on plains to hill that was horrible =[

stuff just happens, i would think it would be very hard to keep your focus in games where they are simply guaranteed to win if they play safe.
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TesisMech
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Peru688 Posts
June 29 2007 10:51 GMT
#191
On June 29 2007 18:09 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I've never heard of r.Def- before. Is it just some random ICCUP team or is it indeed a guild?

yes they ask all koreans to join their team
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 29 2007 12:44 GMT
#192
Just start temp banning people for going off topic.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
June 29 2007 12:48 GMT
#193
RedFireTruck = Day[9] again, just played him.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
June 29 2007 13:49 GMT
#194
On June 29 2007 21:44 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
Just start temp banning people for going off topic.


I wish I could do that Joe.
bOne[BC]
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia12 Posts
June 29 2007 16:16 GMT
#195
[S2] and r-Def are pathetic .. i mean the leaders of these clans are actually losers enough to just make a clan to get top in the team rankings.. its pathetic " lets recruit all gosu kors to boost our ranking "

Get a real team u retards.. A real team = Team using clan tag, in clan leagues, active roster, game together etc.

Some of these iccup teams r a fuking joke
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
June 29 2007 16:53 GMT
#196
On June 28 2007 21:20 Jrwriter wrote:
Here is some replays of TL_Types if you want
Rep 1 : http://www.sendspace.com/file/9ahyvh (beggar)
Rep 2 : http://www.sendspace.com/file/kp90ji (Sinwoo #1 atm)
Rep 3 : http://www.sendspace.com/file/xra9wa (sen)

I can get more if you want -_-;;


Thanks, especially for the SinDongWook rep. I'm trying to figure out who he is, at the moment I'm suspecting it is Nada, the hotkeys are similar and the starting spam too.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-29 17:24:50
June 29 2007 17:23 GMT
#197
On June 30 2007 01:53 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2007 21:20 Jrwriter wrote:
Here is some replays of TL_Types if you want
Rep 1 : http://www.sendspace.com/file/9ahyvh (beggar)
Rep 2 : http://www.sendspace.com/file/kp90ji (Sinwoo #1 atm)
Rep 3 : http://www.sendspace.com/file/xra9wa (sen)

I can get more if you want -_-;;


Thanks, especially for the SinDongWook rep. I'm trying to figure out who he is, at the moment I'm suspecting it is Nada, the hotkeys are similar and the starting spam too.

You can't possibly be serious..
Statistically the best player in Starcaft history would have 106/35 in Iccup?
Think again please.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-29 17:28:53
June 29 2007 17:26 GMT
#198
he's not nearly in form recently, hence he didn't play vs CJ today. it could well be him, he may of just lost to other korean pro's.semi-pro's. I think you should think again please.

take a look at his match list. about 10 games vs non kor, and only 1 loss (vs TT1).
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-29 17:29:01
June 29 2007 17:27 GMT
#199
On June 30 2007 02:26 Pads wrote:
he's not nearly in form recently, hence he didn't play vs CJ today. it could well be him, he may of just lost to other korean pro's.semi-pro's. I think you should think again please.

Its not NaDa, just believe it.
He can beat any semi-pro without any trouble.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-29 17:29:43
June 29 2007 17:29 GMT
#200
ok , i belive you
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