• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:44
CET 04:44
KST 12:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0247LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April The Dave Testa Open #11
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh CasterMuse Youtube ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2008 users

Amaz's Stream Viewers: Bots? - Page 2

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 28 2014 13:51 GMT
#21
As he says himself (on today's stream), what would even be the point of view botting? His stream is entertaining, so it merits watching on its own. If someone else is doing it to him, that's not his fault. More viewers wouldn't make his stream better, so I don't see why he'd even bother.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
May 28 2014 13:53 GMT
#22
its hard to prove this, and does not seem like something amaz would do, im giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
May 28 2014 14:11 GMT
#23
Are you sure your bias against Amaz isnt clouding your judgement OP?
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
May 28 2014 14:53 GMT
#24
Amaz is pretty much the only stream I watch at the moment at all. He is a very nice guy, entertaining, does not play music that I dislike (lol no music except for ingame music, thank you youtube!), has a voice that I enjoy listening to, is articulate, easy to understand, understands the concept of a good stream and does not have breaks of 20+ minutes of saying nothing. He does not talk with others over skype etc, pretty much only interacts with the viewers (both chat and donations) and explains all he does. And he has not yet fallen into the Abyss that is playing miracle rogue.

So yeah, I like Amaz. And without any real proof or evidence or anything really (not even a fake graph to show a sudden drop/rise in viewers) it would be nice to see this thread closed and buried. Or at least a mod message showing up on the top telling new people visiting this thread that there is no real proof yet to be seen nor any fishy behaviour really, so until some is digged up Amaz should be considered not botting and not doing anything wrong.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#25
Maybe if you had some better evidence towards your argument then people would take you a little more seriously
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
May 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#26
That username
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 28 2014 16:14 GMT
#27
He's my favorite streamer if he has 16k viewers or 5k

Wouldn't care at all.
In the woods, there lurks..
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 16:15:36
May 28 2014 16:15 GMT
#28
On May 29 2014 01:01 Darkren wrote:
That username

Are people really complaining about the name? Suppose you had a proof that Trump was botting, would you actually be willing to risk your account, even though it were true? No, you wouldn't, because Trump is popular and whatever you say, whatever proof you have, there will be people that will call for your ban. Even in SC2, a long time ago when spades was pretty obviously maphacking in a show match, someone posted it on a different account, because despite the hours of nearly irrefutable proof people still said that it wasn't conclusive. People still said that it could be random chance that the guys screen constantly went over Luciron's army, and he pre-reacted to drops he didn't see, and that he had a perfect counter build every game.

I think the best way to do something like this is have an extremely good post, and NOT on your actual account. Now did this guy have a good post with lots of graphs, videos of viewer counts changing, etc? No, but he did provide enough description that I think it is clear there are bots in Amaz's stream. However, he doesn't provide proof that it is Amaz that is doing the botting, which is a very key point to miss. However, the post still calls attention to something that maybe now can be monitored or stopped, or looked into further.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 28 2014 16:38 GMT
#29
Amaz such a cool guy that I wouldnt believe hes viewerbotting until irrefutable proof was presented.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 28 2014 16:48 GMT
#30
People need to realize that you can actually target a streamer with bots.

Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
May 28 2014 16:52 GMT
#31
This should be closed. At best it has weak evidence and no motive.

The OP has 2 other posts one of which was...
"Well let's be honest. amaz is barely gm every season, and he was barely around rank3-5 until yesterday or so."
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
May 28 2014 17:09 GMT
#32
On May 28 2014 21:13 eSen1a wrote:
Makes sense since I don't know why any person would find this guy appealing to watch


He grows on you. I actually hated Massan's and Amaz's streams. Massan was boring and has a monotone voice. Amaz has a high-pitched annoying voice, but they are watchable after a while. Their interaction with chat, commentary and gameplay are pretty fun once you look past the voices.
I still prefer Reynad, Hafu and Kripp the most, but I did expand my viewership to other streamers. I don't have a twitch account so I don't partake in chat but I do like to listen/watch streams in-between my own games of doto or smth else.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 17:22:01
May 28 2014 17:21 GMT
#33
OK this thread has run its course.

Closing it barring some sort of actual evidence beyond anecdotes.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
LiuLi Cup Grand Finals Group A
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 229
Ketroc 51
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2268
Artosis 666
JulyZerg 277
ggaemo 114
Leta 26
Bale 16
Noble 10
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever676
NeuroSwarm26
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 554
Reynor53
Cuddl3bear5
Counter-Strike
taco 854
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox364
Other Games
summit1g12782
C9.Mang0387
WinterStarcraft220
ViBE49
Livibee35
Mew2King25
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1048
Counter-Strike
PGL244
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 104
• davetesta57
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 18
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt262
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
13h 16m
Shino vs DnS
SpeCial vs Mixu
TriGGeR vs Cure
Korean StarCraft League
23h 16m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
OSC
1d 7h
SC Evo Complete
1d 9h
DaveTesta Events
1d 14h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 16h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-26
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.