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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 28 2014 13:51 GMT
#21
As he says himself (on today's stream), what would even be the point of view botting? His stream is entertaining, so it merits watching on its own. If someone else is doing it to him, that's not his fault. More viewers wouldn't make his stream better, so I don't see why he'd even bother.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
May 28 2014 13:53 GMT
#22
its hard to prove this, and does not seem like something amaz would do, im giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one
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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
May 28 2014 14:11 GMT
#23
Are you sure your bias against Amaz isnt clouding your judgement OP?
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Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
May 28 2014 14:53 GMT
#24
Amaz is pretty much the only stream I watch at the moment at all. He is a very nice guy, entertaining, does not play music that I dislike (lol no music except for ingame music, thank you youtube!), has a voice that I enjoy listening to, is articulate, easy to understand, understands the concept of a good stream and does not have breaks of 20+ minutes of saying nothing. He does not talk with others over skype etc, pretty much only interacts with the viewers (both chat and donations) and explains all he does. And he has not yet fallen into the Abyss that is playing miracle rogue.

So yeah, I like Amaz. And without any real proof or evidence or anything really (not even a fake graph to show a sudden drop/rise in viewers) it would be nice to see this thread closed and buried. Or at least a mod message showing up on the top telling new people visiting this thread that there is no real proof yet to be seen nor any fishy behaviour really, so until some is digged up Amaz should be considered not botting and not doing anything wrong.
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#25
Maybe if you had some better evidence towards your argument then people would take you a little more seriously
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
May 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#26
That username
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 28 2014 16:14 GMT
#27
He's my favorite streamer if he has 16k viewers or 5k

Wouldn't care at all.
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convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 16:15:36
May 28 2014 16:15 GMT
#28
On May 29 2014 01:01 Darkren wrote:
That username

Are people really complaining about the name? Suppose you had a proof that Trump was botting, would you actually be willing to risk your account, even though it were true? No, you wouldn't, because Trump is popular and whatever you say, whatever proof you have, there will be people that will call for your ban. Even in SC2, a long time ago when spades was pretty obviously maphacking in a show match, someone posted it on a different account, because despite the hours of nearly irrefutable proof people still said that it wasn't conclusive. People still said that it could be random chance that the guys screen constantly went over Luciron's army, and he pre-reacted to drops he didn't see, and that he had a perfect counter build every game.

I think the best way to do something like this is have an extremely good post, and NOT on your actual account. Now did this guy have a good post with lots of graphs, videos of viewer counts changing, etc? No, but he did provide enough description that I think it is clear there are bots in Amaz's stream. However, he doesn't provide proof that it is Amaz that is doing the botting, which is a very key point to miss. However, the post still calls attention to something that maybe now can be monitored or stopped, or looked into further.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 28 2014 16:38 GMT
#29
Amaz such a cool guy that I wouldnt believe hes viewerbotting until irrefutable proof was presented.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 28 2014 16:48 GMT
#30
People need to realize that you can actually target a streamer with bots.

Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
May 28 2014 16:52 GMT
#31
This should be closed. At best it has weak evidence and no motive.

The OP has 2 other posts one of which was...
"Well let's be honest. amaz is barely gm every season, and he was barely around rank3-5 until yesterday or so."
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
May 28 2014 17:09 GMT
#32
On May 28 2014 21:13 eSen1a wrote:
Makes sense since I don't know why any person would find this guy appealing to watch


He grows on you. I actually hated Massan's and Amaz's streams. Massan was boring and has a monotone voice. Amaz has a high-pitched annoying voice, but they are watchable after a while. Their interaction with chat, commentary and gameplay are pretty fun once you look past the voices.
I still prefer Reynad, Hafu and Kripp the most, but I did expand my viewership to other streamers. I don't have a twitch account so I don't partake in chat but I do like to listen/watch streams in-between my own games of doto or smth else.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 17:22:01
May 28 2014 17:21 GMT
#33
OK this thread has run its course.

Closing it barring some sort of actual evidence beyond anecdotes.
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