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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
November 09 2015 07:22 GMT
#49841
On November 09 2015 03:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
(though, kwizach's specific argument of not giving people the opportunity to look like people is quite stupid).

I'd argue it's your repeated inability to grasp my actual argument which is "quite stupid".
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 11:57:57
November 09 2015 11:23 GMT
#49842


1. This is why I vote.
2. This is why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.
3. I can't be the only one who hears Al Pacino from Any Given Sunday at 4:40 in the above video, when Bernie's voice is hoarse...

Reference:


Any Given Sanders?
Bernie Given Sunday?
Bernie Pacino?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2015 14:41 GMT
#49843
On November 09 2015 08:53 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Trump brought SNL the highest ratings in almost 4 years, including a 47% increase over the Hillary episode a month ago per EntertainmentWeekly. As a wise man once said, don't feed the troll.

We will have to see if his ability to pull in viewer translates into votes. People also slow down to look at car crashes, but I don't think they would vote for one.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
November 09 2015 15:15 GMT
#49844
One could argue that Trump negotiated an extremely good deal with SNL. The jokes were all mild enough to not be a big deal, but firm enough to give the impression that he can take a joke and all that sorta thing. Portrayed confidence, charisma, etc.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45285 Posts
November 09 2015 16:00 GMT
#49845
On November 10 2015 00:15 Mohdoo wrote:
One could argue that Trump negotiated an extremely good deal with SNL. The jokes were all mild enough to not be a big deal, but firm enough to give the impression that he can take a joke and all that sorta thing. Portrayed confidence, charisma, etc.


Remember when he got Roasted on Comedy Central? The jokes were obviously much more raw and caustic, but I think Trump came out of even that as a good sport.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2015 16:45 GMT
#49846
Israeli and US government officials are hoping to patch up battered relations between the two countries when Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu visits Washington this week, for meetings with Barack Obama and leading Democrats.

In contrast to recent fiery clashes over the Iranian nuclear deal, the leaders will hold discussions over a $30bn military aid package to Israel and try to put their increasingly bitter disagreements behind them.

US officials played down hopes of progress toward a two-state solution to the Palestinian crisis. The White House is under pressure from liberal activists to show that it can influence Netanyahu on settlement activity.

“Obviously, there are occasions when we’ve had disagreements and that’s well known about this past year, particularly around the Iranian negotiations,” US ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro told reporters in a briefing.

“But I think both Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Obama are clearly focused in the meeting that we’re preparing for next week on looking forward, and in so doing, there’s a focus on a lot of areas of common interest and convergence.”

Unusually, the focus of the trip is less likely to be two leaders’ meeting at the White House on Monday than a visit by Netanyahu to the Center for American Progress (CAP), a leading liberal thinktank, on Tuesday.

CAP, which has extremely close ties to both the Obama administration and the Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign team, represents the heart of a Democratic policy establishment that Netanyahu needs to win back after his divisive speech to Congress in March.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28742 Posts
November 09 2015 17:03 GMT
#49847
trump had a wrestlemania hair match against Vince McMahon. It's impossible for him to do anything dumber than that, SNL is nothing.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2015 17:09 GMT
#49848
So what exactly is going on in Missouri?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23654 Posts
November 09 2015 17:16 GMT
#49849
On November 10 2015 02:09 xDaunt wrote:
So what exactly is going on in Missouri?


A little bit of accountability.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2015 17:18 GMT
#49850
The University of Missouri responded to a bunch of racist incidents against black students with some handwaving and non-action. The state’s AG suggested that the school form a task force and take the issue seriously, which has not happened. Students protested and now the athletes, including football players, are getting involved with the blessing of their coaches.

It’s the standard person in power doesn’t think that racist issues are a huge deal or signs of a larger problem in the thing they have power over and a lot of people in that structure disagreeing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2015 17:19 GMT
#49851
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23654 Posts
November 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#49852
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?


All of them, too many, too pervasive, too severe.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2015 17:25 GMT
#49853
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?

People smeared poop in the shape of swastikas on the wall. Verbally assaulted black students with racial slurs, so on and so on. From reports from the protesting facility, it’s been an ongoing issue for years with the problems being glossed over or ignored by the president of the school.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 09 2015 17:26 GMT
#49854
Well the protesters wanted blood and they got it since the president resigned.
Never Knows Best.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2015 17:27 GMT
#49855
On November 10 2015 02:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?

People smeared poop in the shape of swastikas on the wall. Verbally assaulted black students with racial slurs, so on and so on. From reports from the protesting facility, it’s been an ongoing issue for years with the problems being glossed over or ignored by the president of the school.

That's not exactly compelling stuff worthy of all of the present hoopla. I'm guessing that your description isn't doing this justice.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23654 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 17:28:34
November 09 2015 17:28 GMT
#49856
On November 10 2015 02:26 Slaughter wrote:
Well the protesters wanted blood and they got it since the president resigned.


Pretty sure they were after accountability, not blood.

On November 10 2015 02:27 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 02:25 Plansix wrote:
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?

People smeared poop in the shape of swastikas on the wall. Verbally assaulted black students with racial slurs, so on and so on. From reports from the protesting facility, it’s been an ongoing issue for years with the problems being glossed over or ignored by the president of the school.

That's not exactly compelling stuff worthy of all of the present hoopla. I'm guessing that your description isn't doing this justice.



It's appropriate you would think so.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 17:33:00
November 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#49857
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?


Listening on NPR this morning: Lots of instances of people people driving around, yelling racial slurs at black students. Then there's the swastika stuff already mentioned. You know how every time there is some racist thing that happens at a university, there is some giant email the president sent out to the whole school about how racism is satan? That never happens at this university. The president ignores it and doesn't wage war against racism. Every single other school makes a huge deal out of racism and makes it clear that these racists are unwelcome, shitty people. The president NOT doing that makes the minority students feel neglected and ignored. These guys don't feel safe at their school and the president isn't actively fixing it. I think it is a fair critique.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2015 17:32 GMT
#49858
On November 10 2015 02:27 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 02:25 Plansix wrote:
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?

People smeared poop in the shape of swastikas on the wall. Verbally assaulted black students with racial slurs, so on and so on. From reports from the protesting facility, it’s been an ongoing issue for years with the problems being glossed over or ignored by the president of the school.

That's not exactly compelling stuff worthy of all of the present hoopla. I'm guessing that your description isn't doing this justice.

The hoopla was about the school not doing anything about it, not the actions themselves. The zero response, this doesn't matter attitude turned the facility and coaching staff against the president. What did you expect them to do if no one is listening to them?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 17:33:55
November 09 2015 17:32 GMT
#49859
On November 10 2015 02:27 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 02:25 Plansix wrote:
On November 10 2015 02:19 xDaunt wrote:
What racist incidents? How many? How pervasive? How severe?

People smeared poop in the shape of swastikas on the wall. Verbally assaulted black students with racial slurs, so on and so on. From reports from the protesting facility, it’s been an ongoing issue for years with the problems being glossed over or ignored by the president of the school.

That's not exactly compelling stuff worthy of all of the present hoopla. I'm guessing that your description isn't doing this justice.


Black grad student on hunger strike in Mo. after swastika drawn with human feces


classy: source, washingtonpost

I can see how they'd be pissed if someone tells them "aw *shrug*. That's nothing big, is it?"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2015 17:33 GMT
#49860
On November 10 2015 02:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's appropriate you would think so.


I hadn't been following the story at all until late last week, and now I see that the president has resigned. None of this makes any sense to me. I would think that there'd be a record of what exactly went wrong somewhere (ie what the university specifically ignored), but I haven't been able to find any information on that point. So I'm legitimately curious as to what the university did wrong and thought that y'all might have some information. So far I'm wildly unsatisfied.
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