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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2347 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:42:57
January 21 2012 17:42 GMT
#301
On January 22 2012 02:31 SilentchiLL wrote:

And why is there so much canadian hate in this thread?


its some internal canadian affairs, like this


Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Eiaco
Profile Joined January 2012
170 Posts
January 21 2012 17:42 GMT
#302
I don't like France because they act like te big guns in Europe and try to order everyone about.

Reality Check: If it wasn't for us and USA, they would be speaking German.

Q: What’s the difference between a Frenchman and a bucket of crap?
A: The bucket

Q: What Does "Maginot Line" mean in French?
A: "Speed bump ahead"

LOLOL

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orangesunglasses
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States110 Posts
January 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#303
i dont personally dislike the french but its frustrating to attempt to talk to a frenchman and his first natural instinct is to cower and run away... i really wish the current french didnt have such cowards for ancestors. i just wanted to know the time of day and this dude ran away...

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exog
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway279 Posts
January 21 2012 17:44 GMT
#304
On January 22 2012 02:40 Papulatus wrote:
Reading through this thread I think I can conclude that US bashing is MUCH MUCH worse than any "French bashing" that happens in the US


You cant conclude anything from this tread. Also US bashing is just shit on internet from kids, every politician tread carefully speaking with USA.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 21 2012 17:44 GMT
#305
On January 22 2012 02:34 exog wrote:
They were overrun/lost in ww1, ww2, algerie and vietnam. Thats where the cowardness jokes come from.

Tourists have bad experiences when the french refuse to speak english to non-french-speakers.


I'm pretty sure any other Allied nation would have ended up surrendering if they bordered Germany. It is real easy to talk tough when you've got the English Channel or the the fucking Atlantic Ocean making you virtually immune to a German invasion.

I've never understood why France gets flak for surrendering but nobody ever talks about Italy...
I am the Town Medic.
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
January 21 2012 17:45 GMT
#306
+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:38 Djzapz wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:37 Jibba wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:33 Djzapz wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:30 Jibba wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:27 Djzapz wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:24 Jibba wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:20 Jibba wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 02:06 Jibba wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 01:53 Djzapz wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 01:52 jj33 wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 21 2012 21:35 Euronyme wrote:
Americans envy the French in every way possible, the English have them as rivals.
There are also some irritation left as the French practically didn't fight in WW2, even though they practically caused it.[/QUOTE]


I'm American, what do we envy about the French?

Genuine question here, I don't know anybody here in the states who gives a damn about the French much less envy them.[/QUOTE]
Presumably, a lot of people are like you and they don't know anything, then they post about it. Why don't you envy anyone else? Because you haven't bothered to educate yourself about countries which aren't your own.
Edit: And you probably don't know all that much about the US either, in all likelihood.[/QUOTE]


This guy professes ignorance and asks a question. You respond to him by bashing him for his self proclaimed ignorance to France, fail to address his question, then edit your post to bash his knowledge in general (something you had no reason to do). You were rude, there was no error his wording imo.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:47:39
January 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#307
Just so people are aware, there's a difference between the jokes people are making about running away, and really stupid serious lines like:
Reality Check: If it wasn't for us and USA, they would be speaking German.


That's the reason for the warning.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
exog
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway279 Posts
January 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#308
On January 22 2012 02:44 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 02:34 exog wrote:
They were overrun/lost in ww1, ww2, algerie and vietnam. Thats where the cowardness jokes come from.

Tourists have bad experiences when the french refuse to speak english to non-french-speakers.


I'm pretty sure any other Allied nation would have ended up surrendering if they bordered Germany. It is real easy to talk tough when you've got the English Channel or the the fucking Atlantic Ocean making you virtually immune to a German invasion.

I've never understood why France gets flak for surrendering but nobody ever talks about Italy...


True, but its what happened that counts.
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
January 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#309
People actually take french jokes seriously? Man when i get insulted as a nazi i just facepalm my way out of that conversation. The more u get mad about french jokes the more people will enjoy making them^^
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#310
As much as i would like to write a big long post about Agincourt, i have to say that France is Lovely.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:54:18
January 21 2012 17:48 GMT
#311
This guy professes ignorance and asks a question. You respond to him by bashing him for his self proclaimed ignorance to France, fail to address his question, then edit your post to bash his knowledge in general (something you had no reason to do). You were rude, there was no error his wording imo.

I went on and gave a few examples of things that Americans could want from France - cultural and political things. His question was answered. Still, I support my "opinion" that his wording suggested that he couldn't fathom France having anything desirable for any Americans ever.

That said, I demoted my stance to "opinion" because it seems like a lot of people are opposed to it. Maybe I just can't read English even though I write better than most Americans.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
exog
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway279 Posts
January 21 2012 17:49 GMT
#312
On January 22 2012 02:47 Jibba wrote:
Just so people are aware, there's a difference between the jokes people are making about running away, and really stupid serious lines like:
Show nested quote +
Reality Check: If it wasn't for us and USA, they would be speaking German.


That's the reason for the warning.


Its probably true. Its very possible that the allies would have lost in europe without the americans.
Eiaco
Profile Joined January 2012
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:50:53
January 21 2012 17:49 GMT
#313
On January 22 2012 02:44 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 02:34 exog wrote:
They were overrun/lost in ww1, ww2, algerie and vietnam. Thats where the cowardness jokes come from.

Tourists have bad experiences when the french refuse to speak english to non-french-speakers.


I'm pretty sure any other Allied nation would have ended up surrendering if they bordered Germany. It is real easy to talk tough when you've got the English Channel or the the fucking Atlantic Ocean making you virtually immune to a German invasion.

I've never understood why France gets flak for surrendering but nobody ever talks about Italy...


Italy were allied with Germany. Also, Italy wasn't considered a "superpower" at the time.

Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#314
On January 22 2012 02:49 Eiaco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 02:44 Alzadar wrote:
On January 22 2012 02:34 exog wrote:
They were overrun/lost in ww1, ww2, algerie and vietnam. Thats where the cowardness jokes come from.

Tourists have bad experiences when the french refuse to speak english to non-french-speakers.


I'm pretty sure any other Allied nation would have ended up surrendering if they bordered Germany. It is real easy to talk tough when you've got the English Channel or the the fucking Atlantic Ocean making you virtually immune to a German invasion.

I've never understood why France gets flak for surrendering but nobody ever talks about Italy...


Italy were allied with Germany. Also, Italy wasn't considered a "superpower" at the time.



Exactly, were allied. Then we attacked them and they surrendered and joined us. Same thing happened in WW1 as well.

Surrendering when your country is overrun is pretty different from surrendering the moment you are attacked and joining the enemy team.
I am the Town Medic.
FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
January 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#315
The only French guy I have ever met was a total asshole. That being said i'm not gonna judge the whole country.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:55:11
January 21 2012 17:54 GMT
#316
On January 22 2012 02:49 exog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 02:47 Jibba wrote:
Just so people are aware, there's a difference between the jokes people are making about running away, and really stupid serious lines like:
Reality Check: If it wasn't for us and USA, they would be speaking German.


That's the reason for the warning.


Its probably true. Its very possible that the allies would have lost in europe without the americans.

"If it wasn't for _______" regarding any of the world wars is stupid. You could just as easily say "If it wasn't for France, the USA wouldn't exist." It's a passive aggressive oversimplification to make one side seem overly generous, when in reality every side contributes to one another.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:54:44
January 21 2012 17:54 GMT
#317
On January 22 2012 02:53 FoeHamr wrote:
The only French guy I have ever met was a total asshole. That being said i'm not gonna judge the whole country.


Yes you are.
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Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
January 21 2012 17:55 GMT
#318
I hear the occasional joke about French people surrendering but I think that's about the extent of any French bashing I've heard of.

I guess I've also heard that they're the worst tourists and treat tourists badly, but that's just your average stereotype..
Eiaco
Profile Joined January 2012
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:58:05
January 21 2012 17:56 GMT
#319
On January 22 2012 02:47 Jibba wrote:
Just so people are aware, there's a difference between the jokes people are making about running away, and really stupid serious lines like:
Show nested quote +
Reality Check: If it wasn't for us and USA, they would be speaking German.


That's the reason for the warning.


Im sorry, but I honestly cannot see how that line is stupid. France had been conquered and we (Britain) were in no position to fight Germany on the ground. If Germany didn't invade Russia and the USA didn't get involved, I have a feeling that Hitler would have tried to make everyone under German rule speak the German language as he was trying to make a Germanic Empire.

Am I wrong?

Also, about the jokes. That was light hearted banter, nothing more.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 17:57:48
January 21 2012 17:56 GMT
#320
I hear lots of jokes but most jokes about French cowardice are misguided and show an ignorance about history. But the ribbing has always been about how quickly France went from a Great Power to a second rate power and how much the French refused to acknowledge it. Yes, France is still the ninth largest economy in the world, but their economy today is half the size of Japan's, 20% of China's, and ~15% of the US.

This has only gotten worse as the French government had a somewhat contentious attitude toward the US during the Cold War. France and the US are allies but they disagree greatly on opinions toward the shape of society, foreign policy, etc. Even today, France is good at pointing out that Americans claim to be this great, altruistic nation, but almost everything they do is self-serving, bull-headed, and sometimes not good for the global community. They're not always right, but I think it's a good thing to have allies like that.
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