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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 13:43:02
October 18 2011 13:38 GMT
#1
Time and time again, new threads pop up in the General section detailing something horrible that happened in China. Everyone reacts with such disgust that it leads me to wonder if people think these are isolated incidents.

Don't get me wrong; people should be horrified. However, this stuff is common, even if not defining of the country as a whole. I'm not trying to make any type of political statement here, but this kind of stuff really does happen all the time in China.

The most recent thread to be posted was, "Chinese Toddler Run Over, No One Helps!"
Yet, I think the following would all deserve a thread of their own (and perhaps some already do).

Unfinished Homework Leads 3 Chinese Schoolgirls to Suicide
http://news.ifeng.com/society/2/detail_2011_09/20/9338577_0.shtml

K256 Train Passenger Beaten to Death by Conductor & Crew
http://news.163.com/11/0927/21/7F06SL4L00011229.html

Used Condom Found in Food at School Cafeteria
http://dzh.mop.com/whbm/20110917/0/5glzglI27aa1fbFl.shtml

Lives Like Garbage: Children with Birth Defects Abandoned
http://news.ifeng.com/photo/hdsociety/detail_2011_09/01/8862366_0.shtml

Boy’s Skull Caved in By Abusive Stepmother, Parents Run Off
http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/funinfo/1/2785741.shtml

Jiangmen City to Exterminate All Dogs in Public Areas
http://dzh.mop.com/whbm/20110804/0/lFF8OgI273d1e9Fl.shtml

Migrant Worker Beats Wife in Public for “Not Listening”
http://news.ifeng.com/photo/hdsociety/detail_2011_07/04/7432130_0.shtml

Chinese Dad Encourages Little Boy & Girl to Fight Each Other
http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2011/07/video-7-year-old-chinese-girl-uses-violence-against-cousin-cheered-by-father/

The list goes on and on. For the majority of you who can't read Chinese, www.chinasmack.com has a lot of this kind of information in English. It was the site I went to quickly draw up a list for you guys.
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
October 18 2011 13:41 GMT
#2
I hope you realise this type of thread, regardless of your intentions, is only going to exacerbate the disgust that some people harbor towards Chinese culture based on the reporting of isolated incidents.
Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
October 18 2011 13:43 GMT
#3
With little to no effort anyone can pull even worse stuff coming out of the US, dont really undestand what is people fascination with China´s dirt.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
October 18 2011 13:43 GMT
#4
I lived in China for 15 months teaching English, and I can vouch for it being a pretty terrible place.

However, I don't really see how this is worth a thread any more than the bleeding toddler.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 18 2011 13:44 GMT
#5
Ever since i started watching the news and reading newspapers, i learned that this stuff happens all the time in the US too. But you know people these days, they love to point fingers.

Hell their was this family the other day who locked up 5 disabled people in their basement and would take their disability checks.
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Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 13:50:25
October 18 2011 13:44 GMT
#6
That's not as surprising as you think it is.

Crazy people are everywhere, doing crazy things. This site makes it seem like the Chinese are worse but remember that there are over 1 billion (1.339 B) of them.

So for a canadian like me it makes us look like chorus boys until you remember/calculate that for every canadian there are 45 chinese persons.

It's statistics.
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Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
October 18 2011 13:44 GMT
#7
What is this thread's purpose?
AcuWill
Profile Joined August 2010
United States281 Posts
October 18 2011 13:44 GMT
#8
Tbh, people in the US are afraid of what China represents.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 13:46:00
October 18 2011 13:45 GMT
#9
It's the US and as it seems to me a little lesser extent Western "propaganda machine" that is making China the "new" enemy...

As it seems, it's working because people start to search this stuff themselves....
Matsumoto
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany493 Posts
October 18 2011 13:46 GMT
#10
this is not a chinese problem.

everywhere in the world you have parents who abuse their children and men who beat up their wife every day.

and that food shenanigans you posted is nothing new. for example it happens quite often that people find dead animals in their food and other disgusting stuff

it just feels like you try to demonize China
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svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 13:47:57
October 18 2011 13:47 GMT
#11
On October 18 2011 22:43 Alexstrasas wrote:
With little to no effort anyone can pull even worse stuff coming out of the US, dont really undestand what is people fascination with China´s dirt.


It's because like to feel morally superior to others. I'm starting to realize that people get off on that. If you isolate all the bad incidents, you make any country look bad.

And the fact there are more Chinese people than any other people on the Earth guarantees that they have more lunatics than anywhere else.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
October 18 2011 13:47 GMT
#12
On October 18 2011 22:44 Kroml. wrote:
What is this thread's purpose?


It may seem counter-intuitive, but the purpose of this thread was to question the purpose of every other "Horrible News from China" thread. In my opinion, there's so much shit going on, it's just not worth making a new thread about it every time.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 18 2011 13:48 GMT
#13
...well nobody's perfect, right?

What you people need to understand is that behind the shiny concrete jungles of major cities and despite the modernity the Chinese government shows, most of China is still a third world country. Shit is going to happen because people are stupid, people are animals, traditional values are outdated, etc, etc.

I guarantee you there's 10x as much horrible shit going on in Africa completely unreported because Africa's just poorer and more backwards than China. This isn't to justify the shit going on in China, it's just true. There's no point in posting all the shit here, it doesn't make any difference. There are deeper issues at hand than these individual events that make it into the media due to their shock value.
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 13:52:01
October 18 2011 13:48 GMT
#14
On October 18 2011 22:44 Krowser wrote:
So for a canadian like me it makes us look like chorus boys until you remember/calculate that for every canadian there are 45 chinamen.


Also, Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.

I do agree with most of the posters so far in here that this thread should be closed. The OP doesn't seem to have a frame of reference, saying that this stuff "happens all the time" in China.

It would be pretty offensive to him if I made an analogous thread compiling terrible events that occurred in the US.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
October 18 2011 13:48 GMT
#15
Not that it gives China a reason, but could you find any location where crap do not happen? I'm pretty sure every society has its problems.

Philly police: Disabled victimized by theft scheme
Girl, 9, tells cop she drove van because Dad was drinking
Landlord finds mentally disabled people locked in basement; 3 arrested
Kent student may have been dead for days

Some US headlines I found from a minute of cnn and google news search. Most news headlines at the moment are politics based.
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
October 18 2011 13:49 GMT
#16
On October 18 2011 22:44 Krowser wrote:
That's not as surprising as you think it is.

Crazy people are everywhere, doing crazy things. This site makes it seem like the Chinese are worse but remember that there are over 1 billion (1.339 B) of them.

So for a canadian like me it makes us look like chorus boys until you remember/calculate that for every canadian there are 45 chinamen.

It's statistics.


This was my thought exactly. When I was in Europe I was annoyed by people coming up to me and saying hey did you here about X you Americans are crazy! Then I had to explain to them that the US is a huge diverse country of course there will be a ton of crazy stories.
And China is even larger, so yeah this doesn't surprise me at all.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
October 18 2011 13:50 GMT
#17
On October 18 2011 22:48 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 22:44 Krowser wrote:
So for a canadian like me it makes us look like chorus boys until you remember/calculate that for every canadian there are 45 chinamen.


Also, Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.


No eh? I knew something felt wrong when I typed that.

Ok, Edited.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46212 Posts
October 18 2011 13:50 GMT
#18
I think we should elect a new country every month and find as many terrible articles as possible to make us hate them. Sort of like a Flavor of the Week kind of thing.

Wasn't it Russia a little while ago? And it's always been the U.S. too? And stuff in the Middle East?

Yeah, this shit is everywhere. China is bad, everywhere's bad. I'm sure a Google search for "bad news *somewhere* " will net you something.

Or maybe we could do the exact same thing... with good news!
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
October 18 2011 13:50 GMT
#19
On October 18 2011 22:47 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 22:44 Kroml. wrote:
What is this thread's purpose?


It may seem counter-intuitive, but the purpose of this thread was to question the purpose of every other "Horrible News from China" thread. In my opinion, there's so much shit going on, it's just not worth making a new thread about it every time.

So you're planning to update it daily with bad news or what?
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
October 18 2011 13:51 GMT
#20
On October 18 2011 22:47 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 22:44 Kroml. wrote:
What is this thread's purpose?


It may seem counter-intuitive, but the purpose of this thread was to question the purpose of every other "Horrible News from China" thread. In my opinion, there's so much shit going on, it's just not worth making a new thread about it every time.


Why don't you create a thread called "Horrible News around the World" then?
What if some horrible news from Africa and Middle East start to pop in General Section? Are you going to create "Horrible News from Iraq" "Horrible News from Sudan" threads?
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
October 18 2011 13:53 GMT
#21
I would close this thread before a hatewar starts up.
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
Takyn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany42 Posts
October 18 2011 13:53 GMT
#22
Why don't you just make it a "Horrible News" thread, as that stuff happens all over the world, all the time, even in your own country or city. To single out China like this just makes it seem like fear-/hatemongering.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
October 18 2011 13:53 GMT
#23
On October 18 2011 22:50 pred470r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 22:47 Karliath wrote:
On October 18 2011 22:44 Kroml. wrote:
What is this thread's purpose?


It may seem counter-intuitive, but the purpose of this thread was to question the purpose of every other "Horrible News from China" thread. In my opinion, there's so much shit going on, it's just not worth making a new thread about it every time.

So you're planning to update it daily with bad news or what?


Nope, it's more like a, "we get it, shit's happening in China" thread.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 18 2011 13:54 GMT
#24
all can be found here lol http://www.chinasmack.com/
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 13:56:00
October 18 2011 13:54 GMT
#25
Child abuse happens everywhere it just doesn't make the news (beyond local news) unless it's in China. For some dumb reason it's cool to demonize China. Evil communists and all....

Also China has 3.5x the population of the US so they are bound to have more atrocities. And i doubt the US has a lower per capita child abuse then China...
VaultDweller
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania132 Posts
October 18 2011 13:55 GMT
#26
I don't really see the point of the " it's happening in China "... There is rape ( involving children or not ), murder, cannibalism and wtv allover the freaking world... How do these cases get singled out is beyond me ( well, not really, I "understand" the need for sensationalism that the mass-media has )... I'm pretty sure there are people being kept in basements somewhere in a first world country right now. I wish people would stop adding country labels... it's mankind that blows, not China or India or wtv.
"War is not about who's right- it's about who's left."
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
October 18 2011 13:56 GMT
#27
Nice attempt to further demonize and stigmatize the Chinese.
ShamTao
Profile Joined September 2010
United States419 Posts
October 18 2011 13:57 GMT
#28
Please, please, somebody close this thread. It's only going to fuel more nonsensical hate. People don't think critically enough to handle this information properly.

Please, please, somebody close this!
In the game of drones, you win or you die!
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
October 18 2011 14:01 GMT
#29
Well this thread is going places.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 18 2011 14:01 GMT
#30
Sigh.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
October 18 2011 14:03 GMT
#31
Don't make threads like this, please.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
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