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thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:11 GMT
#1
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/With-Chevrolet-Sonic-GM-and-nytimes-3082900830.html?x=0&.v=1

This artical talks about how this is the first Economy car made in the US in a long time and how GM hasnt made one in the US since the Chevette. I read the article and then some of the responses to the article. I have a question for people out there is it better to have a job where you make half of what you should (EX. $30K instead of 60) or would you rather not have a job at all?

I feel that the way everyone in the US expects a raise is the reason companies are leaving the US(among other reasons). Please give your poll answer and leave your thoughts.

Poll: Job or no Job?

Job at $30,000 thats worth 60,000 (24)
 
71%

No job (10)
 
29%

34 total votes

Your vote: Job or no Job?

(Vote): Job at $30,000 thats worth 60,000
(Vote): No job



Shigy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States346 Posts
July 16 2011 22:13 GMT
#2
wtf poll
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
July 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#3
Your poll is dependant on "Can I find job at 60k$?" (It's more like anything above 30k but sitll)

If yes, "no job" is the answer to the poll.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:17:08
July 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#4
Anyone who says they'd rather have no job hasn't had experienced being jobless without the support of parents.

But your OP makes very little sense.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Relickey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States145 Posts
July 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5
Hmm... A job or no job? I think I'd rather $30k a year than $0 a year.
Beaches and shores
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
July 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#6
This poll doesn't really make any sense.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#7
On July 17 2011 07:16 HellRoxYa wrote:
Your poll is dependant on "Can I find job at 60k$?" (It's more like anything above 30k but sitll)

If yes, "no job" is the answer to the poll.



No its pretty self explanatory. Would you rather be jobless or have a job you get half of what you should make. The article says the average salary of auto union workers is roughly 60k and that this new factory is paying 30k so would you rather have a job at that wage or sit on the couch with no money?
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 16 2011 22:26 GMT
#8
Poll doesn't make sense.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#9
The poll is so dumb it's asking to be trolled.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
July 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#10
Your OP lacks a coherent description of the issue at hand, and the title is misleading as well. If you had just created a poll asking whether people would take jobs at half the regular wage or not, then things would have been a lot clearer.

On topic: As I have no idea about the living expenses in the US, I can't judge whether 14$ / hour could be a wage to live off or wouldn't be worth the effort. In general, having a job beats being unemployed, especially since there are more benefits to being employed than just having an income.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
July 16 2011 22:39 GMT
#11
he poll should just say a job a regular salary or half salary. ofc im going to take a job im poor as shit
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:39 GMT
#12
I guess I should have taken more time but it seems pretty clear to me...
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
July 16 2011 22:41 GMT
#13
If everyone is only paying $30k for the job, then isn't that what it is worth? I know I'm simple but...
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
July 16 2011 22:42 GMT
#14
ITT: children posting about jobs.

Name a single grown person who would rather be homeless living on the streets than working at half pay.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:43 GMT
#15
I guess I should have copied what was in the article actually expecting people to take 4 minutes and read it was to much to ask.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 16 2011 22:44 GMT
#16
I agree to this if the government can some how lower the cost of living. Cost of living is the reason why most of us are in this horrible position. In Miami to even get a 1 bed/1bath it's like $800-$1000, which is quite ridiculous in my opinion because the apartment is the size of like a bathroom.
Life?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 16 2011 22:45 GMT
#17
money or no money? lol...
forelmashi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
421 Posts
July 16 2011 22:46 GMT
#18
what do you mean "should"..
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:46 GMT
#19
On July 17 2011 07:42 Eknoid4 wrote:
ITT: children posting about jobs.

Name a single grown person who would rather be homeless living on the streets than working at half pay.



I actually know people who would rather sit at home than take a job being payed less than what they think they should get. I currently get underpaid by about $8/hour but think having a job is better than not.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
July 16 2011 22:47 GMT
#20
On July 17 2011 07:16 Relickey wrote:
Hmm... A job or no job? I think I'd rather $30k a year than $0 a year.

Crappy poll, weak topic, but this ^
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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
July 16 2011 22:47 GMT
#21
This kinda reminds me of Grapes of Wrath- of course people will take a low paying job over none but unions and a competitive market will eventually prevent unfair wages.
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:47 GMT
#22
On July 17 2011 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I agree to this if the government can some how lower the cost of living. Cost of living is the reason why most of us are in this horrible position. In Miami to even get a 1 bed/1bath it's like $800-$1000, which is quite ridiculous in my opinion because the apartment is the size of like a bathroom.


gogo minimum wage increases!
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:48:18
July 16 2011 22:47 GMT
#23
I'd love to have a job paying $30k a year right now, the market is shiiit for those of us who decided a degree in the liberal arts was a good idea =(
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 16 2011 22:48 GMT
#24
What you should make in my point of view is what other get for the job... the average salary for the specific job. So if everybody get 60k$ for this job, why should I accept 30k ? Stupid pool.

I would take 30k and search for another job, leave like a bitch and leave the company in deep shit! ;P
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:53:55
July 16 2011 22:50 GMT
#25
On July 17 2011 07:47 DeepElemBlues wrote:
I'd love to have a job paying $30k a year right now, the market is shiiit for those of us who decided a degree in the liberal arts was a good idea =(


sigh I guess before I post from now on I should have an English professor read my post. I honestly dont see whats wrong with this post. It may seem a bit like a troll post but its legitimate some people would honestly rather sit at home and have no income than a job that underpays them by a significant amount. I just wanted to know what people though about this particular instance.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 16 2011 22:53 GMT
#26
On July 17 2011 07:50 thane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:47 DeepElemBlues wrote:
I'd love to have a job paying $30k a year right now, the market is shiiit for those of us who decided a degree in the liberal arts was a good idea =(


sigh I guess before I post from now on I should have an English professor read my post. I honestly dont see whats wrong with this post. It may seem a bit like a troll post but its legitimate some people would honestly rather site at home and have no income than a job that underpays them by a significant amount. I just wanted to know what people though about this particular instance.


How do you sit at home with no income and not lose your home? That's what is stupid about it...
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:54 GMT
#27
On July 17 2011 07:53 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:50 thane wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:47 DeepElemBlues wrote:
I'd love to have a job paying $30k a year right now, the market is shiiit for those of us who decided a degree in the liberal arts was a good idea =(


sigh I guess before I post from now on I should have an English professor read my post. I honestly dont see whats wrong with this post. It may seem a bit like a troll post but its legitimate some people would honestly rather site at home and have no income than a job that underpays them by a significant amount. I just wanted to know what people though about this particular instance.


How do you sit at home with no income and not lose your home? That's what is stupid about it...



I never said the people are smart but people do it...
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
July 16 2011 22:55 GMT
#28
On July 17 2011 07:48 WhiteDog wrote:
What you should make in my point of view is what other get for the job... the average salary for the specific job. So if everybody get 60k$ for this job, why should I accept 30k ? Stupid pool.

I would take 30k and search for another job, leave like a bitch and leave the company in deep shit! ;P


Which company pre-pay salary upfront? It doesn't make any sense.
Leenock the Punisher
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
July 16 2011 22:55 GMT
#29
If Americans expect to get paid more than workers in third world nations, then they should have better SKILLS than workers in third world nations.

People always complaining about "manufacturing" jobs leaving, etc... I say good riddance. The jobs of the future are not manufacturing, and that's not what American workers should be investing in. Outsourcing and lowering wages isn't the problem here...

And the OP makes no sense at all.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
July 16 2011 22:57 GMT
#30
On July 17 2011 07:55 jdseemoreglass wrote:
If Americans expect to get paid more than workers in third world nations, then they should have better SKILLS than workers in third world nations.

People always complaining about "manufacturing" jobs leaving, etc... I say good riddance. The jobs of the future are not manufacturing, and that's not what American workers should be investing in. Outsourcing and lowering wages isn't the problem here...

And the OP makes no sense at all.



fine since I didnt make sense what should I have changed?
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
July 16 2011 22:57 GMT
#31
Terrible poll, weak topic indeed. Closing this.
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