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[NASL] BRAT_OK awarded 2-0 victory over oGsMC

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AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
April 16 2011 18:12 GMT
#1
source: http://twitter.com/#!/oGsMC

"i'm worry today NASL i flying in air NASL start so my fight partner win me lose but NASL admins think i'm flying"
"so i'm 0win 0lose count BRAT_OK 2win 0lose count sorry have a nice day ^^"

seems like another w.o.
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
April 16 2011 18:13 GMT
#2


As a Brat_OK fanboy, this really makes me sad.
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Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
April 16 2011 18:14 GMT
#3
Not a big MC fan anyways. But its a shame to see another W.O.
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intergalactic
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada428 Posts
April 16 2011 18:14 GMT
#4
Extremely disappointing...This was THE game I was looking forward to.
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razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
April 16 2011 18:14 GMT
#5
On April 17 2011 03:13 Stoids wrote:


As a Brat_OK fanboy, this really makes me sad.


me as well. Wanted him to show everyone what he is truly capable of.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
April 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#6
Is Ryuu2 part of the NASL administration? (Honest question.)
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
April 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#7
This is a huge shame. Of all the games in the NASL, this is the game I wanted to see.
☢
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
April 16 2011 18:16 GMT
#8
And yeah... this was a bad week for NASL (understandable production issues aside). White-ra + Naniwa + MC were all the 3 matches I was looking forward to on their particular days.

Seems like the most hyped games for me are all dropping.

Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
April 16 2011 18:16 GMT
#9
Very dissapointed to many of these games conflicting when are they going to do something about it?
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AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
April 16 2011 18:16 GMT
#10
On April 17 2011 03:15 MrSexington wrote:
Is Ryuu2 part of the NASL administration? (Honest question.)


No, lol.
Paramo
Profile Joined July 2008
Mexico138 Posts
April 16 2011 18:17 GMT
#11
Epic interpretation skills, seriously.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
April 16 2011 18:18 GMT
#12
Why is it always the best matches
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 16 2011 18:19 GMT
#13
Noooo, I wanted to watch that so bad.
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AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
April 16 2011 18:19 GMT
#14
This has already been posted -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=213231
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starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 18:25:24
April 16 2011 18:23 GMT
#15
I'm very displeased. I don't see how the NASL can give MC 0-0 and give 4 other players in the group -1 or -2 for actually playing. He's gotta take -2 or the system is broken and you can just no show your way past tough opponents and take a 'draw'
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
April 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#16
I think this should not be allowed by ppl running NASL, u cant do this in GSL or other tournaments
if play random i can't call any race imba?
krews
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1308 Posts
April 16 2011 18:33 GMT
#17
was really looking forward to this game
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
April 16 2011 18:33 GMT
#18
Stupid plane delay, really wanted to see MC vs Brat_ok
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 18:41:48
April 16 2011 18:36 GMT
#19
On April 17 2011 03:23 starcraft911 wrote:
I'm very displeased. I don't see how the NASL can give MC 0-0 and give 4 other players in the group -1 or -2 for actually playing. He's gotta take -2 or the system is broken and you can just no show your way past tough opponents and take a 'draw'

Agreed, they have set a precedent and now (theoretically) players can say...oh i dont think i can beat MC, time to concoct a scheme to not play, i'll get no win and no loss which is better than getting humiliated 0-2 in front of tens of thousands of people. If you don't punish people for missing a game in some way shape or form they will game the system.

Now I agree that it is a punishment for MC as he would have probably won, and thus he is 0-0 instead of 1-0, but still, NASL needs to start cracking down.

EDIT: The other thread made it a bit more clear why he wasn't given the loss. I'm still a big believer in even if it is an understandable unforeseen circumstance. If you don't make it to your match time and do not reschedule, and if one person is going to be given the free win, the other guy HAS to be given the loss.
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
April 16 2011 18:36 GMT
#20
So all the really great MUs has been forfeited. :<
FireBoltHero
Profile Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
April 16 2011 18:37 GMT
#21
i dont think you should be saying things like "BRAT_OK awarded 2-0 victory over oGsMC" when you're just speculating and dont think you're an official nasl admin
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
April 16 2011 18:37 GMT
#22
On April 17 2011 03:36 neo_sporin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 03:23 starcraft911 wrote:
I'm very displeased. I don't see how the NASL can give MC 0-0 and give 4 other players in the group -1 or -2 for actually playing. He's gotta take -2 or the system is broken and you can just no show your way past tough opponents and take a 'draw'

Agreed, they have set a precedent and now (theoretically) players can say...oh i dont think i can beat MC, time to concoct a scheme to not play, i'll get no win and no loss which is better than getting humiliated 0-2 in front of tens of thousands of people. If you don't punish people for missing a game in some way shape or form they will game the system.

Now I agree that it is a punishment for MC as he would have probably won, and thus he is 0-0 instead of 1-0, but still, NASL needs to start cracking down.

They punish players that just don't show up (Ex. White-ra got 0-2).

They just don't punish players that cannot show up for reasons out of their control (Ex. MC's plane is delayed)
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LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
April 16 2011 18:38 GMT
#23
yeah this sucks... lol

3 series already not played.

Woohoo..
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 16 2011 18:38 GMT
#24
I just hope that if Brat_OK goes onto win, this does not take away from his victory, as he is a remarkable player and I was looking forward to this match.
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Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
April 16 2011 18:39 GMT
#25
Damn, I really wanted to see what kind of warpgate rushes MC had planned.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 16 2011 18:40 GMT
#26
wow really ?? :\
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Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
April 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#27
tbh, really disappointing

NASL _must_ realize that its simply not important enough for players in it to let go off LAN-Tournaments and such.

I dont understand why the didnt re-arrange matches like this one...clearly its a situation mc cant influence. They got the luxory of not having to live-cast those games, why not delay it, or let them play it another day?

A thing of principle?
Well nasl, you have two of the best players in the tournament already getting a walkover against themselves, in Week one...
Im really afraid how things look in week 9.

tbh im not looking forward to players with a 6-0 not advancing because it simply wasnt possible for them to play those games at the dedicated time.
Dunno..maybe they really need to think about the casting format.

TSL shows that replay-casting a huge tournament can work without any problem.
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
April 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#28
Well that stinks. Ah well.
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AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
April 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#29
On April 17 2011 03:37 FireBoltHero wrote:
i dont think you should be saying things like "BRAT_OK awarded 2-0 victory over oGsMC" when you're just speculating and dont think you're an official nasl admin


Yeah i realised that , but i think mc's tweet doesn't leave much room for interpretation.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45176 Posts
April 16 2011 18:42 GMT
#30
This is terribly unfortunate Well a plane delay is at least a reason that's not MC's fault, as opposed to White-Ra and Naniwa actually being at fault for not playing their games...
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stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 16 2011 18:44 GMT
#31
Uhh wow
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 18:47:44
April 16 2011 18:46 GMT
#32
This is getting to be too much. NASL wants to maintain their integrity as an organization by being firm with this stuff, but they are accomplishing the opposite. By having 3 matches so far not even happen, they are really hurting their prestige.

So far, the following huge names haven't been able to play their matches:

Naniwa
July
WhiteRa
MC

These players in specific were quite the hype-creators. If the NASL doesn't bend its rules to accommodate a player in the event of this happening again, I'll be extremely disappointed. The NASL needs the players just as badly, if not MORE than the players need them. There are a lot of other tournaments going on with big names, so the NASL is really hurting its image compared to these other tournaments by missing out on these big names playing in their league. I know they have a tight schedule and that there are reasons this happened. But the NASL can change that. I bought my NASL ticket, and although Moon vs Grubby alone was able to make it worth it, I sure as hell expected a lot more.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45176 Posts
April 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#33
On April 17 2011 03:46 Mohdoo wrote:
This is getting to be too much. NASL wants to maintain their integrity as an organization by being firm with this stuff, but they are accomplishing the opposite. By having 3 matches so far not even happen, they are really hurting their prestige.

So far, the following huge names haven't been able to play their matches:

Naniwa
July
WhiteRa
MC

These players in specific were quite the hype-creators. If the NASL doesn't bend its rules to accommodate a player in the event of this happening again, I'll be extremely disappointed. The NASL needs the players just as badly, if not MORE than the players need them. There are a lot of other tournaments going on with big names, so the NASL is really hurting its image compared to these other tournaments by missing out on these big names playing in their league. I know they have a tight schedule and that there are reasons this happened. But the NASL can change that. I bought my NASL ticket, and although Moon vs Grubby alone was able to make it worth it, I sure as hell expected a lot more.


I disagree. Players need to learn to be responsible for their actions. Rules should be enforced, and certainly not bent just because the player is popular. It's not fair to those who actually play by the rules. Did you hear how pissed Strelok was? Perfectly justified.
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Unnamed
Profile Joined December 2010
148 Posts
April 16 2011 18:54 GMT
#34
Quote from another thread that made me LOL
On April 17 2011 03:25 Kerl wrote:
NASL is rather NAWOL ( NorthAmericanWalkOverLeague)...

Not gonna bitching or something, but NASL really should consider to do something about it. I'm pretty sure that everyone prefer to see games postponed for 1-2 days or even 1-2 weeks rather than just W.Os
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
April 16 2011 18:55 GMT
#35
Aaaaand my Liquibet gets owned because of walkovers AGAIN.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
April 16 2011 18:55 GMT
#36
On April 17 2011 03:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 03:46 Mohdoo wrote:
This is getting to be too much. NASL wants to maintain their integrity as an organization by being firm with this stuff, but they are accomplishing the opposite. By having 3 matches so far not even happen, they are really hurting their prestige.

So far, the following huge names haven't been able to play their matches:

Naniwa
July
WhiteRa
MC

These players in specific were quite the hype-creators. If the NASL doesn't bend its rules to accommodate a player in the event of this happening again, I'll be extremely disappointed. The NASL needs the players just as badly, if not MORE than the players need them. There are a lot of other tournaments going on with big names, so the NASL is really hurting its image compared to these other tournaments by missing out on these big names playing in their league. I know they have a tight schedule and that there are reasons this happened. But the NASL can change that. I bought my NASL ticket, and although Moon vs Grubby alone was able to make it worth it, I sure as hell expected a lot more.


I disagree. Players need to learn to be responsible for their actions. Rules should be enforced, and certainly not bent just because the player is popular. It's not fair to those who actually play by the rules. Did you hear how pissed Strelok was? Perfectly justified.



Not at all this is a new tournament like new players they need to prove themself before they get respect. So atm NASL got 0 respect since its a new tournament only thing they can do to improve is to make sure the best players is able to play.. if stuff like this keep happening the tournament will go down faster then Ricky Hatton.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
April 16 2011 18:56 GMT
#37
Locked, duplicate thread.
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