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Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
July 09 2010 05:09 GMT
#2941
Will blizzard staff have to post under their Real ID on the forums aswell? Don't know if this question has been asked or answered yet, 150 pages is scary to go through ><
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ascoe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Korea (South)133 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 05:40:47
July 09 2010 05:39 GMT
#2942

On July 09 2010 14:09 phizzy wrote:
First of all this is my first 'substantial' post on Teamliquid but i have been reading this forum on a day to day basis since i got the invited to the Starcraft 2 beta. I thought i would post my opinion on the use of real names instead of nicknames.
...

The simple way to stop drivel, flames, and trolls is to actually moderate your forum. It's not a new idea. Displaying real names with zero privacy settings or no way to opt out is not a solution it's a mess thats could easily end in people suing them.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 09 2010 05:48 GMT
#2943
On July 09 2010 14:09 Chesner wrote:
Will blizzard staff have to post under their Real ID on the forums aswell? Don't know if this question has been asked or answered yet, 150 pages is scary to go through ><


From what I read that was their plan originally, but after the bashiok incident they backtracked and now say that's a "security risk".
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 05:54:22
July 09 2010 05:49 GMT
#2944
On July 09 2010 14:48 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 14:09 Chesner wrote:
Will blizzard staff have to post under their Real ID on the forums aswell? Don't know if this question has been asked or answered yet, 150 pages is scary to go through ><


From what I read that was their plan originally, but after the bashiok incident they backtracked and now say that's a "security risk".

Source?

Blizzard won't change their minds about this unless something is done legally. The top guys don't understand the ultimate ramifications because they live in a luxury dream world.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 05:50:25
July 09 2010 05:50 GMT
#2945
On July 09 2010 14:39 ascoe wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 14:09 phizzy wrote:
First of all this is my first 'substantial' post on Teamliquid but i have been reading this forum on a day to day basis since i got the invited to the Starcraft 2 beta. I thought i would post my opinion on the use of real names instead of nicknames.
...

The simple way to stop drivel, flames, and trolls is to actually moderate your forum. It's not a new idea. Displaying real names with zero privacy settings or no way to opt out is not a solution it's a mess thats could easily end in people suing them.


It also ignores the posts (and the challenge i made to any supporters to explain the new policy) that say the following:

you already are limited to 1 account. no one in their right mind is going to jeopardize their 1 account to do some stupid trolling on the forums. and if they did, it would take minimal moderation to deal with it. they would have to buy a new copy of the game to be able to post again.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 05:52:34
July 09 2010 05:51 GMT
#2946
From what I read that was their plan originally, but after the bashiok incident they backtracked and now say that's a "security risk".

if this is true its realy : LOL

but it should be easy to find out the names of the blizz employes and im sure some people will make a website with all there names, adresse , ect ...

EDIT:
YES, i have a second name, sounds good!
Save gaming: kill esport
Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:02:15
July 09 2010 06:01 GMT
#2947
My name, let me show you it.

Edit: Oh it's a random thing-a-maging
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
July 09 2010 06:04 GMT
#2948
On July 09 2010 14:50 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 14:39 ascoe wrote:

On July 09 2010 14:09 phizzy wrote:
First of all this is my first 'substantial' post on Teamliquid but i have been reading this forum on a day to day basis since i got the invited to the Starcraft 2 beta. I thought i would post my opinion on the use of real names instead of nicknames.
...

The simple way to stop drivel, flames, and trolls is to actually moderate your forum. It's not a new idea. Displaying real names with zero privacy settings or no way to opt out is not a solution it's a mess thats could easily end in people suing them.


It also ignores the posts (and the challenge i made to any supporters to explain the new policy) that say the following:

you already are limited to 1 account. no one in their right mind is going to jeopardize their 1 account to do some stupid trolling on the forums. and if they did, it would take minimal moderation to deal with it. they would have to buy a new copy of the game to be able to post again.


or crack it
give hackers not even a year and im sure they will be able to do what ever they want
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
July 09 2010 06:12 GMT
#2949
On July 09 2010 14:48 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 14:09 Chesner wrote:
Will blizzard staff have to post under their Real ID on the forums aswell? Don't know if this question has been asked or answered yet, 150 pages is scary to go through ><


From what I read that was their plan originally, but after the bashiok incident they backtracked and now say that's a "security risk".


This whole effin thing is a "security risk" ._.
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
July 09 2010 06:16 GMT
#2950
On July 09 2010 15:12 Chesner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 14:48 travis wrote:
On July 09 2010 14:09 Chesner wrote:
Will blizzard staff have to post under their Real ID on the forums aswell? Don't know if this question has been asked or answered yet, 150 pages is scary to go through ><


From what I read that was their plan originally, but after the bashiok incident they backtracked and now say that's a "security risk".


This whole effin thing is a "security risk" ._.


You would think but obviously it's Blizzard employee>the paying customer.
There's no S in KT. :P
devlb21
Profile Joined May 2010
United States20 Posts
July 09 2010 06:20 GMT
#2951
They aren't going to go through with the realid on the forums.
Skaff
Profile Joined February 2010
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:36:14
July 09 2010 06:33 GMT
#2952
Wonder if I gave TL my name...

Random.. but Tom Scherer is pretty slick!
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:39:29
July 09 2010 06:38 GMT
#2953
haha iv been going through reading peoples names... so good.

dont mess with me... i clearly have ties to terrorist organizations

EDIT: some people have theeee straighest clean cut names hahah "timothy richardson"...
Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin
Ikiron
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:41:04
July 09 2010 06:39 GMT
#2954
On July 09 2010 14:48 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 14:09 Chesner wrote:
Will blizzard staff have to post under their Real ID on the forums aswell? Don't know if this question has been asked or answered yet, 150 pages is scary to go through ><


From what I read that was their plan originally, but after the bashiok incident they backtracked and now say that's a "security risk".

When someone posted that the one Dev/GM was 28 and lived with his mom I laughed so hard, I couldn't help but facepalm for Blizzard on how badly this thing backfired already and its not even turned on yet.

-Edit- Was wondering why my name was like this then I lol'd nice touch TL.
Why be the best when you can die like the rest.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
July 09 2010 06:41 GMT
#2955
I wonder if Blizzard realizes they have killed the forums. By killing, I do not mean sheer numbers. I am sure there will be plenty of forum posters once Sc2 and Cataclysm are released. But, many of the known and quite insightful users will NOT be posting. That means, there will be a gaping whole where helpful advice and comments would normally ensue. So yeah, at this point, I will not be posting on the forums once it is integrated and I play Sc2. I foresee a drastic decline in the quality of post and possibly not quantity.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Damian
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 07:13:03
July 09 2010 06:48 GMT
#2956
One of the most important online news portal in Germany also made an article about this "issue":
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,705406,00.html

Vernon Blommaert nice !
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:51:31
July 09 2010 06:51 GMT
#2957
On July 09 2010 15:41 Nilrem wrote:
I wonder if Blizzard realizes they have killed the forums. By killing, I do not mean sheer numbers. I am sure there will be plenty of forum posters once Sc2 and Cataclysm are released. But, many of the known and quite insightful users will NOT be posting. That means, there will be a gaping whole where helpful advice and comments would normally ensue. So yeah, at this point, I will not be posting on the forums once it is integrated and I play Sc2. I foresee a drastic decline in the quality of post and possibly not quantity.


Sorry for completely off-topic.. but your name hahahahahah Sven Fuhrmann, so manly
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
July 09 2010 07:02 GMT
#2958
Want to see my name ahaha

Also this is fucking retarded. Even my parents think it's stupid and they still believe that the internet lives in their desktop google chrome icon.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 09 2010 07:12 GMT
#2959
Why is it that Blizzard is failing so hard in every direction, lately?

After 15 years of near flawlessness, it's really heartbreaking.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
baskerville
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
541 Posts
July 09 2010 07:19 GMT
#2960
On July 09 2010 14:09 phizzy wrote:
First of all this is my first 'substantial' post on Teamliquid but i have been reading this forum on a day to day basis since i got the invited to the Starcraft 2 beta. I thought i would post my opinion on the use of real names instead of nicknames.

The Problem
People are generally upset they will no longer be able to post as anonymous on the official fan forums at Blizzard.

My Thoughts
This is not a bad thing! This move by Blizzard is good for the community. No longer will people be able to post flames, trolls or generally non-productive comments with out those posts being attached to their real name.
The quality of the forum will increase because people will no longer feel the safety of posting as an anonymous user. The saying 'don’t say anything unless it is nice or constructive' will be something most users could say their parents gave them as children as a piece of advice you should live by. I hope at least. Blizzard are just putting this in to use on their forums.
People think that by posting their real names and identity's will be trolled should think about this.
1. If people choose to flame you on Blizzard forums then they will one be posting their own names as well and two that Blizzard have said any abuse of the real name feature will result in serious penalties
2. Make sure you Facebook, Twitter etc is on friends or followers access only (something which it should be anyway)
3. PROTECT your image! whether it be internet or real life they are both important.

Examples
I have decided to give a few short examples for the community so you might understand my thought process behind my opinion.

When Day[9] makes a post (forget that you know his name is Sean Plott) for the most part people will instantly know that the post will have some type of good information or at the very least be worth reading. Day[9] commands this respect from the fellow forum users because of the identity and reputation that his nickname has built up during posting on a forum.
Now what is different about having an online personality which is in fact your own! You post under your name it builds a reputation and instead of Day[9] being given kodus for posts it would be Sean Plott.

The counter example is (made this person up, i hope :S) User123. User123 makes posts like, +1, first comment, you suck, you stink, omg lolz i watched it and think you stink. This user has done nothing to try and enhance his image on this forum and therefore nobody cares what he says. AT ALL
When User123 is forced to post as his real life name (again made up) John Doe he will one think do i want these stupid posts effecting my name and two are they even worth it? This is a positive outcome for the real name system as you are cutting down on useless posts and making people being to think about what they are posting.

When you join an online community such as this one you want to be know as someone who knows what they are talking about or are good at the game by making it attach to your real name instead of your nickname makes no difference you are still looking to be accepted.


The Solution
If you don't want to have your real name spread across the internet then in the days we live in you should not be on the internet because unless you are one of the few who are very security aware there is no way to keep you personal detains off the internet.
Blizzard is not forcing you to post but by allowing real names it is forcing you to think about your image, which unfortunately is something that not enough people on the internet care for.

Conclusion
I just wanted to give a counter argument to some of the people who had instantly blasted this move from Blizzard but i think if you sit down and think about it you can see there are some very big advantages to what they are doing.
On a closing note to the people who believe using real names will 'kill e-sports' i really think you should use some of the advice in this post and try and protect your image.

I should close off with my name is Edward Bayford (Phizzzy) so i don't look like a hypocrite by posting


the fact that secrecy is already compromised on the internet is no reason to promote that fact by making it a standard to give your real id to use The official forum for a high profile game
150 pages is too much to read... then fly through it to try and understand at least ne or two of the people taking the time to argue why it's such a dangerous trend
inshort:
corporate spamming will inssue, gender or ethnic bias will be facilitated, kids should be protected and anonymity (and generaly being careful with the info you give on internet) is arguably the ONLY method of preventing cyber thefts or crimes (this from the authorities that have been dealing with it since the internet got planetary)
and just to be clear, you yourself declare "PROTECT your image!", how is giving your name going to accomplish that?
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