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food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
May 04 2009 05:17 GMT
#101
On May 04 2009 14:11 JWD wrote:
HOLY FUCK ARTOSIS'S CASTING IS SO FUCKING GOOD

honestly this guy is amazing, I love his deep analysis at every turn of the game


Anyone who can name a BAD cast by artosis can rape me in the ass
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
matamata
Profile Joined February 2005
United States133 Posts
May 04 2009 05:18 GMT
#102
Cast replays if lag?
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 04 2009 05:19 GMT
#103
Why would you call lag at the exact moment you're getting utterly ass-raped, instead of say, at the beginning of the game?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 04 2009 05:19 GMT
#104
On May 04 2009 14:16 JWD wrote:
Artosis is explaining that someone told him the fact that there are too many users on his Mogulus stream is what is causing the game to lag - isn't this total bullshit? The load for serving the stream to users is on Mogulus, not Artosis's computer, right? I mean, Artosis merely provides the video feed to Mogulus for distribution to viewers of the stream - he's not actually directly connected to each user on the Mogulus stream.

And furthermore, Artosis is on some sort of monstrous computer. If ret or Chill can stream to 300+ viewers without a problem, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to.

Yup.

Either Procaster lagged Artosis's comp (unlikely) or it wasn't stream-related at all.
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
May 04 2009 05:19 GMT
#105
maybe its procaster, try "RaGe's Guide"
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mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
May 04 2009 05:19 GMT
#106
On May 04 2009 14:16 JWD wrote:
Artosis is explaining that someone told him the fact that there are too many users on his Mogulus stream is what is causing the game to lag - isn't this total bullshit? The load for serving the stream to users is on Mogulus, not Artosis's computer, right? I mean, Artosis merely provides the video feed to Mogulus for distribution to viewers of the stream - he's not actually directly connected to each user on the Mogulus stream.

And furthermore, Artosis is on some sort of monstrous computer. If ret or Chill can stream to 300+ viewers without a problem, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to.


actually, i thnk it might cause the lag, since these comps are cabled and the moguls might take all of artosis' bitrate on uploading, hence making him lag with lan-sc.. not so much the pcu part but lan issue.. but i'm not sure, just guessing..
Why So Serious?!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 05:20:44
May 04 2009 05:20 GMT
#107
On May 04 2009 14:19 Ancestral wrote:
Why would you call lag at the exact moment you're getting utterly ass-raped, instead of say, at the beginning of the game?


It was rather curious really. We had roughly the same amount of people for White-Ra/Tossgirl and the GAME didn't lag the stream just did.

Very confusing frankly that and Artosis is on a super comp apparently.
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Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1692 Posts
May 04 2009 05:20 GMT
#108
Yea, thats what I thought too, regardless of users, he still uploads the same. Did it look like the game was lagging Artosis? Sort of hard to tell from the limited quality stream, but looked pretty smooth *shrug*. But yea, could do it liquibition style and cast reps.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
May 04 2009 05:21 GMT
#109
so what did idra take that 1st game??
Why So Serious?!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
May 04 2009 05:21 GMT
#110
if there was a lag it prevented Idra from killing 20 scvs with his first vulture
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 04 2009 05:21 GMT
#111
On May 04 2009 14:19 mIsUZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2009 14:16 JWD wrote:
Artosis is explaining that someone told him the fact that there are too many users on his Mogulus stream is what is causing the game to lag - isn't this total bullshit? The load for serving the stream to users is on Mogulus, not Artosis's computer, right? I mean, Artosis merely provides the video feed to Mogulus for distribution to viewers of the stream - he's not actually directly connected to each user on the Mogulus stream.

And furthermore, Artosis is on some sort of monstrous computer. If ret or Chill can stream to 300+ viewers without a problem, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to.


actually, i thnk it might cause the lag, since these comps are cabled and the moguls might take all of artosis' bitrate on uploading, hence making him lag with lan-sc.. not so much the pcu part but lan issue.. but i'm not sure, just guessing..


I agree that the fact that Artosis is streaming might be the cause for the lag (though it's unlikely, given how powerful his computer is) but what I'm calling bullshit on is the following explanation: "Artosis is causing lag because there are too many people connected to his Mogulus stream".

This explanation is BS because streaming costs Artosis's computer the same amount of processing power and bandwidth regardless of how many users are connected.
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dpugliesi
Profile Joined August 2004
Brazil104 Posts
May 04 2009 05:22 GMT
#112
The thing is Artosis only uploads once to mogulus, and mogulus does the work to upload to the rest of users.

If anything is lagging pretty safe bet it's not artosis stream so i call bullshit. =/

Good they let him back for second game.
=/
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 05:23:34
May 04 2009 05:22 GMT
#113
On May 04 2009 14:21 mIsUZu wrote:
so what did idra take that 1st game??


+ Show Spoiler +
yes idra took the 1st game


artosis. casting.i s. brilliant.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 04 2009 05:23 GMT
#114
On May 04 2009 14:22 dpugliesi wrote:
The thing is Artosis only uploads once to mogulus, and mogulus does the work to upload to the rest of users.

If anything is lagging pretty safe bet it's not artosis stream so i call bullshit. =/

Good they let him back for second game.


Yeah, this is exactly what I'm saying.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10008 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 05:24:51
May 04 2009 05:23 GMT
#115
the amount of viewers shouldnt have an effect on the game quality but im guessing multiple streams with all the comps using a single connection might have an effect on the lag (im guessing the other obs are also streaming which can kill his upload rate)
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 04 2009 05:24 GMT
#116
IdrA is using 2-fact tank goliath, the same build he used to destroy Super on Destination in their series.

Unfortunately, Tossgirl is countering perfectly - I wonder if she watched the IdrA-Super series? If so, you have to question IdrA's choice to use this build again.
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Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
May 04 2009 05:25 GMT
#117
Yesterday Idra didn't bring SCVs either on Destination :\
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 04 2009 05:26 GMT
#118
I just can't say it enough: Artosis, your casting is absurdly enjoyable. I have never enjoyed TvT this much, and have no doubt it's because of your cast.

Seriously thanks for this first-rate coverage (maybe I should just send a PM ).
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mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
May 04 2009 05:29 GMT
#119
... lagging.. no.. dont make artosis leave
Why So Serious?!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
May 04 2009 05:29 GMT
#120
Too many people streaming once again -_-
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
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