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On February 26 2009 14:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 13:47 AttackZerg wrote:
I think Ace is bad because of the differents of perspective. A pro gamer playing in proleague is living the dream and every win is one step close to that ultimate #1 ranking. Ace players are Ex-pro gamers now in the military. Yes they are very very fucking good, but there is just no way they can have the same mentality or results playing just in team leagues against people striving for the OSL/MSL/GOM.... That is what I think it is, limited potential of good results, stems good results... What do you think? I'm sure an ACE player would love to come back and win another big league, so I guess I'd disagree. They play the game because they love the game, and excelling at something you love is just a basic instinct that everyone shares, no matter your setting IMO.
I meant that they won't preform as well at the current moment as guys who can enter starleagues. I didn't say anything about there ability to win starleagues if they could. I think being good enough to be selected by Ace is enough to say excelling ... its just you can only excell so much in proleague.
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On February 26 2009 16:13 iloveHieu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 15:57 Mista wrote:
Hoping to see ZerO advance, it's nice to see new up and coming players. DIE %&)#*$(%! Savior shall crush your sorry little silly dream.
Meanness fail. I see a smiley in there. =O
Good games, please. =)
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Quick poll:
Poll: Savior vs Zero
(Vote): Savior 3-0
(Vote): Savior 3-1
(Vote): Savior 3-2
(Vote): Zero 3-0
(Vote): Zero 3-1
(Vote): Zero 3-2
(Vote): It's Nada's MSL anyway
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MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN
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On February 26 2009 15:57 jigga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 15:54 EtherealDeath wrote:
HOLY SHIT RLY? TONIGHT? DAMN!!!
I have class tomorrow, and this starts at like fucking 4 am for me, BUT FUCK IT . I'm watching. and LR ^^
Just hoping Savior wins >.<
>.<
Damnnnnnnnnn Don't stay up to watch a ZvZ...it's not worth it Savior transcends mere matchups.
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On February 26 2009 17:15 NahLGaE wrote:
MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN
This is why these threads get so pointlessly long. People don't realize that no one reads these messages, except in passing, and no one cares about them.
So, please refrain from venting all your unjustified fanboy excitement into a series of boorish, repetitive, and fruitless posts.
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I think Zero will take this...
I actually would be ok with Zero trampling over Savior... EXCEPT Savior would win the whole damn MSL, that would be just to epic.
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On February 26 2009 17:20 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 17:15 NahLGaE wrote:
MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN This is why these threads get so pointlessly long. People don't realize that no one reads these messages, except in passing, and no one cares about them. So, please refrain from venting all your unjustified fanboy excitement into a series of boorish, repetitive, and fruitless posts.
thats what being a fan is about. i couldnt care less if no1 reads it. i need to shout it. shout it out loud. from a high mountain. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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On February 26 2009 17:20 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 17:15 NahLGaE wrote:
MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN This is why these threads get so pointlessly long. People don't realize that no one reads these messages, except in passing, and no one cares about them. So, please refrain from venting all your unjustified fanboy excitement into a series of boorish, repetitive, and fruitless posts.
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and I feel like a page can hold longer than 10 posts please..
edit: this is intended for Qwertify's post above, some ninjas posted before me.
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On February 26 2009 17:20 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 17:15 NahLGaE wrote:
MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN This is why these threads get so pointlessly long. People don't realize that no one reads these messages, except in passing, and no one cares about them. So, please refrain from venting all your unjustified fanboy excitement into a series of boorish, repetitive, and fruitless posts.
If I recall correctly, you posted "KWANROLLED" and stuff along those lines multiple times yesterday in the CJ vs. SKT thread which reached 100+ pages...
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Sigh this is why I don't understand you guys sometimes.
Zero's ZvZ is not miles above Savior. Both of them are really top notch but it's not like either of them are going into this with disadvantages.
Mechanically both of them are top notch. Savior isn't just suddenly behind in mechanics because Zero is younger than him - that's just incredibly fucking stupid.
Savior has played Chojja in the finals before (and lost) so his ZvZ is obviously tested against one of the best ever(2nd best ever).
The one time Zero and Savior played, Zero lost. A slight edge to Savior but it means nothing since it was a a bo1.
From all of this Savior definitely has the edge, I'm just surprised anyone can say with confidence Zero has better mechanics when Savior has been doing it longer, and better than Zero ever has AND just had a 9 game winning streak vs some S class gamers. His mechanics would certainly have to be pretty good to do that? Right?
Right.
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On February 26 2009 17:25 SilverskY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 17:20 Qwertify wrote:On February 26 2009 17:15 NahLGaE wrote:
MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN This is why these threads get so pointlessly long. People don't realize that no one reads these messages, except in passing, and no one cares about them. So, please refrain from venting all your unjustified fanboy excitement into a series of boorish, repetitive, and fruitless posts. If I recall correctly, you posted "KWANROLLED" and stuff along those lines multiple times yesterday in the CJ vs. SKT thread which reached 100+ pages...
And I thought about it just today how dumb that was.
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man i wish i could stay up for this 
but alas.. my internet will probably fail me so i will just have to wait.
GO MJY 
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On February 26 2009 17:26 Ace wrote:
Sigh this is why I don't understand you guys sometimes.
Zero's ZvZ is not miles above Savior. Both of them are really top notch but it's not like either of them are going into this with disadvantages.
Mechanically both of them are top notch. Savior isn't just suddenly behind in mechanics because Zero is younger than him - that's just incredibly fucking stupid.
Savior has played Chojja in the finals before (and lost) so his ZvZ is obviously tested against one of the best ever(2nd best ever).
The one time Zero and Savior played, Zero lost. A slight edge to Savior but it means nothing since it was a a bo1.
From all of this Savior definitely has the edge, I'm just surprised anyone can say with confidence Zero has better mechanics when Savior has been doing it longer, and better than Zero ever has AND just had a 9 game winning streak vs some S class gamers. His mechanics would certainly have to be pretty good to do that? Right?
Right.
Right, I don't think that you can tell that in any way whether this match up will be a landslide for either player. I do think that sAviOr, just by watching his recent mechanics, should come out on top. I think also that mechanics, if you can observe and understand them correctly, is a better indicator of a players ability to win then any stats. If you see that they won by luck, or just by positioning at the right time, or by getting the right scout off early, then this says very little about the player and yet statistically this kind of victory is equal in weight to an epic, hard-fought win against a top player.
From his games I can see that sAviOr actually has very good control of, not only his units, but the game as well. He is very good at mind games.His scourge control can use some work though. Also, I think sAviOr will win because he has more experience with televised games like these, and so he will be used to the pressure that Bo5 can sometimes put on a player.
sAviOr's real challenge will come when he has to face Leta or JangBi or someone like that down the line.
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On February 26 2009 17:26 Ace wrote:
Sigh this is why I don't understand you guys sometimes.
Zero's ZvZ is not miles above Savior. Both of them are really top notch but it's not like either of them are going into this with disadvantages.
Mechanically both of them are top notch. Savior isn't just suddenly behind in mechanics because Zero is younger than him - that's just incredibly fucking stupid.
Savior has played Chojja in the finals before (and lost) so his ZvZ is obviously tested against one of the best ever(2nd best ever).
The one time Zero and Savior played, Zero lost. A slight edge to Savior but it means nothing since it was a a bo1.
From all of this Savior definitely has the edge, I'm just surprised anyone can say with confidence Zero has better mechanics when Savior has been doing it longer, and better than Zero ever has AND just had a 9 game winning streak vs some S class gamers. His mechanics would certainly have to be pretty good to do that? Right?
Right.
It is a combination of things.
A combination of people that just hate Savior due to the huge fanbase he has, people just weren't here early enough to see him during his prime, or just think that older players have crap mechanics. Savior is playing pretty great right now but it's simply tempered by the constant screaming of 2009 and other random screaming that occurs.
I expect Savior to take this really, his ZvZ has been amazing recently and anyone that says otherwise due to a single loss to by.great is insane. My thoughts on ZerO are in the OP so I don't have to repeat that one. It should be relatively close but have to give the advantage to Savior for a number of reasons.
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On February 26 2009 17:20 Qwertify wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 17:15 NahLGaE wrote:
MA JAE YOON BABYYYYYYYYY!!! ITS 2009 BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS MSL IS THE MA JAE YOON STAR LEAGUE ONCE AGAINNNNN This is why these threads get so pointlessly long. People don't realize that no one reads these messages, except in passing, and no one cares about them. So, please refrain from venting all your unjustified fanboy excitement into a series of boorish, repetitive, and fruitless posts.
SAVIORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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