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How to watch
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come on sea, for one time in your life do it in a starleague
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Anywhere to watch this? YaoYuan and hanguo are showing Proleague.
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Match airs 4am eastern time. =/ Daum isnt streaming either.
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And so begins another night of frustrated fans
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I wish this were as easy as OSL nights, where it's simple to get a great stream and enjoy.
I was really looking forward to this group too. -_-;;
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Looks like its going to be VODs only for these MSL groups.
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its on daum, but its not worth watching cus of the horrible lag
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I miss Corinthos
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so is MBC showing this or OGN cause MBC has proleague on? Im on Yaoyuan.
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can anyone pls post the link for daum?? thanks
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Stork vs. fOrGG has already started.
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On January 29 2009 18:40 Dr.Green wrote:
can anyone pls post the link for daum?? thanks
ha. aaa.
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forgg 2 fac while stork standard
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wow how unusual to not have a stream ...
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Yeah sorry I don't have anything to provide just yet, but if a korean translator has any interest in helping me with a few things, I know enough now of how Corinthos did what he did, so send me a PM and I might be able to make some magic things happen
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This is so retarded. Why are they restricting the MSL so much for people outside Korea. Sooooo stupid.
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Zurich15355 Posts
Gone are the days of instant streaming through GOM :-( Oh man why didn't they renew their license it was just so convenient...
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On January 29 2009 18:39 Burre wrote:I miss Corinthos
I miss when daum player streamed normally outside of korea :/
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Daum player probably has it, but the stream lags. Daum sports doesnt list it.
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OGN is playing Stork vs Fantasy game 5
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sea and the bird.
come on`
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lol, forgg gets his SCV up Stork's ramp in spite of a zealot guarding it
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On January 29 2009 18:43 Choros wrote:
OGN is playing Stork vs Fantasy game 5
yep
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On January 29 2009 18:43 KreaGata wrote:
lol, forgg gets his SCV up Stork's ramp in spite of a zealot guarding it
this is so Stork.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
siiiiiiiiiiiigh
this whole 'no stream' thing seems to be happening more and more
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On January 29 2009 18:43 KreaGata wrote:
lol, forgg gets his SCV up Stork's ramp in spite of a zealot guarding it
How are you watching it KreaGata?
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I'm just watching the slideshow on Daum Player. My stream skipped forwards a bit, and now forgg has a tank, some marines, + vultures and mines in stork's base, while stork defends with his shuttle/reaver
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Netherlands6142 Posts
From what I gather from the stream:
Stork elevates 3 goons into the main. All SCVs clump together to attack. THEN he drops the reaver. Next image shows 3 SCVs left :x
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lol so epic, both trade bases . 2 fac vs proxy robo.
because of the reaver alive forgg ggs.
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scvs fighting reaver should be gg
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On January 29 2009 18:47 Pholon wrote:
From what I gather from the stream:
Stork elevates 3 goons into the main. All SCVs clump together to attack. THEN he drops the reaver. Next image shows 3 SCVs left :x
that sounds sexy! :D
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Guys come on, stop asking how to watch, if a stream crops up it'll get posted
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White guys with a dinosaur sign for Stork lol
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i have no idea if its true, someone posted about using korean proxy before, like it solves the lag issue etc.
id give it a try if it takes less then an hour
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On January 29 2009 18:47 GTR-2-Go wrote:
daum pot player
... is being laggy?
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I think I'm just gonna head to bed and catch up on results later. I'll be fine with anything other than go.go making it through!
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Were these meant to be offline games?
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Very early CC for go.go
Erm, go.go at 7, Sea at 11, map is Neo H.
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Sea with a vulture fighting 2 rines and a half finished bunker
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go.gos vultures run by seas army and into his base
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Zurich15355 Posts
Thanks for the live report.
What were the builds for each player? 1 fact expo for go.go ?
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soo miserable...
Thanks for the LR guys. Keep it coming.
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Sea clears it out with tanks and golies and positions more tanks near go.gos natural defended by mines. It looks like Sea has the army advantage
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Build for gogo involved CC at same time as rax
He seems to be in the lead now, two expansion and sieged up on a cliff near Sea's nat.
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It looks like go.go. should win. BO advantage and then some good harass.
Sea's playing horrible these days.
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Drop from go.go. on Sea's 3rd. But Sea had mines for early detection and the drop failed.
Still, go.go with massive dropship advantage and about to go up 4 bases to 3. But at least Sea's still in it for a while.
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Go.Go holds two more expos than Sea but Seas vultures run into an undefended one. Im watching a slide show so yeah.
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w00t for Potplayer slideshowww.
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Sea has expanded again and is making progress pushing toward 5 o clock
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looks like a pretty decive battle could happen Sea has a big force to attack 5 where go.go has 2 bases. Go.Go with a couple tanks and 4 drops ships ready for defence
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Sea taking the expansion right outside go.go's base. Has his tanks seiged and taking out some buildings on the edge.
Some skirmishes, but Sea seems to be coming back. But not sure because it's buffering so bad. But I hope I'm right for Sea's sake.
Wow, massive wraith switch from gogo.
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Looks like go.go managed to hold him off and now has 4 starport making wraith
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Its over. Im guessing go.go won.
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Huge drop onto Sea's main. Sea can't hold, ggs.
Wow, I think there were like 20 wraiths unused by gogo at the end.
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Stork double proxy gateway and not scouted. He should have this one in the bag.
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just watched stork vs forgg on GOM as the vod has been uploaded, it was quite epic...
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ugh -_____________________-
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Stork wins both games in gay fashion.
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wow Sea ...... thanks for ruining my hopes of being top10 in liquibet you bastard
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So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
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On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
calm down son
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the scoreboard doesn't care what your build order was
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MrHoon
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On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
calm down son
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On January 29 2009 19:52 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... calm down son
On January 29 2009 19:49 Itachii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... calm down son
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stork advancing, sea failing so far --> not a good start of the day
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On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
stork isnt exactly in top shope and he's most likely more worried about winning than showing good games. And why do you talk about bisu ? -_-
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Yeeeeeeees!!!! :D
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Nothing like waiting for the wfbrood progress bar to crawl along :[
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MrHoon
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why not use gomtv? they upload in minutes
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On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
What does cheesing have to do with anything? Bisu 2-gated against Jangbi in the MSL finals. I was pissed, but I don't hold anything against him.
I'm not sure if Stork cheesed because he's not in his best shape, or if he had a hot date later on and wanted to get the games over with. Either way, he still 2-0ed his group.
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On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you bitches satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
Calm down son
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Because stork's cheese is really strongest and he feel he dont really need to play a macro game in 2 player map PvT. His sticy zealot micro is hard to stop even for top 10 kespa player.
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On January 29 2009 20:02 MrHoon wrote:
why not use gomtv? they upload in minutes
How do you watch vods on gomtv? I tried it once. They asked me to install some stuff. I did. And still nothing worked. I don't know Korean so I'm sure I missed some steps somewhere. And navigation on gomtv is pretty difficult going just by pictures and trial & error.
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9070 Posts
forGG is sneaking an expo actually he has a major advantage with one expo more up
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Zurich15355 Posts
Can you guys please report the opening builds of each player? Makes reading live reports that much easier.
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9070 Posts
sea with a bit faster starport thou
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I missed the oppening, what I saw was that forGG focused on vulture production and sea made more tanks, now forgg is trying to break the center temples with a large army, sea is taking the expo at 3 oclock, forGG is expanding as well near the center, both players are gathering forces around the temples
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9070 Posts
BC out for sea , forGG has one expo more, focusing on dropships for now, no BCs
forGG is preparing for a major drop, has 6 dropships or so
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sea with 5 starports, has like 3 bcs already. forGG scanning around the map, looking for a spot to drop, but sea has turrets all over the place
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9070 Posts
forGG is adding the additional starports just now + 2 more armories
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On January 29 2009 20:15 disciple wrote:
forGG is adding the additional starports just now + 2 more armories
sounds like sea is way ahead then
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9070 Posts
major battle incoming , forGG has tons of wraiths !!! and bunch of dropships, sea with control group of BCs
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forGG destroying all sea's BCs!!! only 3 left
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On January 29 2009 20:16 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 20:15 disciple wrote:
forGG is adding the additional starports just now + 2 more armories sounds like sea is way ahead then
what kind of idiot would say that
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9070 Posts
sea bringing back a bunch of tanks to deal with the forGG's goliaths, seems like he will hold on but will one of his expos is down
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I like both ForGG and Sea. I only hope that Go.Go doesn't advance.
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forGG has still his dropships, has better mobility dropping golis arround the map, and... stream jumped, I missed the end but Sea lost the game
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the stream was very laggy what I can say about the game in general is that sea was behind in expos the entire game, tried to turtle and make 200/200 of bcs, however forGG had more option to counter the strat because of his better eco, established mapcontrol with his dropships, loaded bunch of golies in them and with 1controlgroup of wraiths or so destroyed seas air force
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On January 29 2009 20:08 zatic wrote:
Can you guys please report the opening builds of each player? Makes reading live reports that much easier.
I wanted to do that but for the two games I watched(Sea vs go.go. and Stork vs go.go), the stream jumped at the beginning, making it difficult to ascertain the BOs. I don't know if this applies to anyone else though.
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I missed who is who but both on the left side of the map, opening with rax/gas no 14cc whatsoever
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both making their first fac, leaving from what I saw 2 scvs to mine gas,both scouting each other
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and the stream jumped again
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yellow T has the red contained with mines 3 vults and a tank, red is powering with scvs , breaking the contain successfully
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Does some one knows wich tv post these game plays on in korea?
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red is in a clear lead after breaking the contain, red vultures around the map going to yellows base, dogfight going on, 5-6 vults vs 2 tanks and a vult for the yellow terran, yellow is holding for now, but more vults coming for red, yellow T wins the micro battle
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On January 29 2009 20:38 disciple wrote:
yellow T has the red contained with mines 3 vults and a tank, red is powering with scvs , breaking the contain successfully
for the love of god use player names
almost no one can get a stream going, we have no idea which terran is red and which terran is yellow
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no stream, no vods (gom is also a bitch today) what else msl has to offer 
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9070 Posts
and stream jumps once again, both have taken their natural expos, red seems to made it a bit earlier because yellow is adding 3 and 4 fac just now
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On January 29 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 20:38 disciple wrote:
yellow T has the red contained with mines 3 vults and a tank, red is powering with scvs , breaking the contain successfully for the love of god use player names almost no one can get a stream going, we have no idea which terran is red and which terran is yellow
sorry I have no idea, the stream jumped in the very beginning
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Valhalla18444 Posts
ahhh, i see
can't you look at the top of the screen? check TLPD real quick to see what the korean characters in sea's name look like, then match 'em to one of the colors
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wait, i thought stork won game 1?
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On January 29 2009 20:43 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 20:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 29 2009 20:38 disciple wrote:
yellow T has the red contained with mines 3 vults and a tank, red is powering with scvs , breaking the contain successfully for the love of god use player names almost no one can get a stream going, we have no idea which terran is red and which terran is yellow sorry I have no idea, the stream jumped in the very beginning
Go here and compare the Korean characters.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/183_go.go
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both with armies in the center of the map, forGG with wraiths , gogo with golis to counter them
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isn't this... sea vs forgg?
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forGG gained map control, has golis around the map. he is actually double cc'ing in the top right
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negative, forGG > sea just a min ago
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On January 29 2009 20:47 disciple wrote:
negative, forGG > sea just a min ago
fuck
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9070 Posts
go.go's 3rd is up, building his 4th as well adding starport as well, nothing much going on, both macroing up
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and now the most thrilling part of TvT. both took positions in the center of the map with siege tanks, forming the no man's land
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On January 29 2009 20:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 20:47 disciple wrote:
negative, forGG > sea just a min ago fuck
Sea went BCs again combined with vals but got rolled by wraiths and gols
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both are taking 5th base, macrofest going on
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forGG with 3 dropships, not sure if go.go has some as well
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nevermind go.go has 4 dropships on his own
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forGG is making wraiths again, hiding them in his main
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go.go doing a mass drop on forGG's main!!
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haha, forGG catching all go.go's dropships killing every one of them, meanwhile forGG brought his own dropships to kill the remaining go.go forces in his main
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go.go managed to destroy like 3-4 supply depots in forGG's main, not a big deal considering what he lost
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forGG with light contain on go.go's base on 6 o clock, go.go breaking it with scvs and a couple of tanks, but forGG managed to take the center of the map powering his way to go.go's main
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wow, forgg is raping gogo with wraiths
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forGG with much larger ground force wraiths as well, rolling go.go over
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forgg has 5bases running while only 3 forgogo
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mass wraiths causing havoc all over the map, expect gg any sec
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GG it is, forGG advancing, go.go sucking balls
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pretty much over for gogo as he has just few anti-air units, tanks are useless, gogo ggs
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hmm sorry for the lame LR, the stream was very laggy and jumped from time to time, it seemed to me that go.go had upper hand after breaking the early contain, but forGG nicely denied go.go's major drop in the mid game, using his wraiths
sea vs forGG was much more entertaining, looking forward to the vod
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wow I didn't expect to go 4/4 here but ... lol
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Zurich15355 Posts
Liquibet : 2/2
Satisfaction: 0/2
We need the glory of 2008 back with streams ready the minute a game begins :-(
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
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Netherlands19135 Posts
Hahahahahahaha Sea oh Sea hahahaha.
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ahhh...poor sea
:D poor fakesteve
omg gogo ForGG and Stork
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On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you [bitches] satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player...
this
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On January 29 2009 21:39 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you [bitches] satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... this
Go bring your hate somewhere else, I bet you would not have whined if Bisu cheesed to get through his msl group.
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On January 29 2009 21:39 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you [bitches] satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... this
People's issue was that Bisu really didn't deserve to be in the OSL. Given the circumstances, (a player dropping out due to injury) it's fine, but alot of people were just mad because if the OSL was a "normal OSL" Bisu would have dropped out due to his bad play.
Stork can cheese all he wants if he thinks it'll get him out of the groups.
Not liking Stork cheesing and not liking Bisu getting a miracle second shot at the OSL are two completely different things.
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On January 29 2009 22:11 dinmsab wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 21:39 Geo.Rion wrote:On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you [bitches] satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... this Go bring your hate somewhere else, I bet you would not have whined if Bisu cheesed to get through his msl group.
Or if Ra cheesed any game
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On January 29 2009 22:13 Vasoline73 wrote:
People's issue was that Bisu really didn't deserve to be in the OSL. Given the circumstances, (a player dropping out due to injury) it's fine, but alot of people were just mad because if the OSL was a "normal OSL" Bisu would have dropped out due to his bad play.
Stork can cheese all he wants if he thinks it'll get him out of the groups.
Not liking Stork cheesing and not liking Bisu getting a miracle second shot at the OSL are two completely different things.
If this OSL had been a "normal OSL", not a single one of the twelve players who competed yesterday would have gotten a second chance. People were not complaining about how awful it was that there was a wildcard competition in the first place. They were complaining about the fact that one particular player was in it.
At any rate, it looks like I might have inadvertently brought yesterday's flame war to this thread as well, so I'll stop.
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On January 29 2009 22:13 Vasoline73 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 21:39 Geo.Rion wrote:On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you [bitches] satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... this People's issue was that Bisu really didn't deserve to be in the OSL. Given the circumstances, (a player dropping out due to injury) it's fine, but alot of people were just mad because if the OSL was a "normal OSL" Bisu would have dropped out due to his bad play. Stork can cheese all he wants if he thinks it'll get him out of the groups. Not liking Stork cheesing and not liking Bisu getting a miracle second shot at the OSL are two completely different things.
And how about Stork. He too did get a second chance in the MSL once,did he not? I personally have no problem if somebody cheeses. It's part of the game. But Bisu has so many haters. If he uses a cheese against Jangbi,people call him cheesy n00b. If he plays standard and owns 6 matches in a row,people call him boring. And IDK what is the problem with the Bisu fanboyism. Everybody is a fanboy in his own right. IDK if a Stork fan is always rational,or a JD fan,or a Sea fan,whoever. So I don't get why is everybody flaming Bisu for getting the opportunity. If Sea had won,nobody would have flamed. Also people complain about how Bisu is lucky and everything. Well,one MSL can be luck. But three? And another final. And he was once in the best of four in the OSL. Beside that,how can you reach 2300 ELO by being lucky? So yeah,I know,Bisu qualifying in the OSL after all is luck. But flaming him 70 pages and for everything and nobody saying about Stork a word is another thing.
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On January 29 2009 22:30 Darth Peter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 22:13 Vasoline73 wrote:On January 29 2009 21:39 Geo.Rion wrote:On January 29 2009 19:48 GeLaar wrote:
So, after yesterday's 70 or so pages filled mostly with whining that Bisu didn't deserve to enter the OSL going 6-0 with straight-up play, are you [bitches] satisfied with these fine cheese builds Stork prepared for his fans today?
Truly, play worthy of a Samsung player... this People's issue was that Bisu really didn't deserve to be in the OSL. Given the circumstances, (a player dropping out due to injury) it's fine, but alot of people were just mad because if the OSL was a "normal OSL" Bisu would have dropped out due to his bad play. Stork can cheese all he wants if he thinks it'll get him out of the groups. Not liking Stork cheesing and not liking Bisu getting a miracle second shot at the OSL are two completely different things. And how about Stork. He too did get a second chance in the MSL once,did he not? I personally have no problem if somebody cheeses. It's part of the game. But Bisu has so many haters. If he uses a cheese against Jangbi,people call him cheesy n00b. If he plays standard and owns 6 matches in a row,people call him boring. And IDK what is the problem with the Bisu fanboyism. Everybody is a fanboy in his own right. IDK if a Stork fan is always rational,or a JD fan,or a Sea fan,whoever. So I don't get why is everybody flaming Bisu for getting the opportunity. If Sea had won,nobody would have flamed. Also people complain about how Bisu is lucky and everything. Well,one MSL can be luck. But three? And another final. And he was once in the best of four in the OSL. Beside that,how can you reach 2300 ELO by being lucky? So yeah,I know,Bisu qualifying in the OSL after all is luck. But flaming him 70 pages and for everything and nobody saying about Stork a word is another thing.
If the same thing happened with another player I would have my thoughts concerning it and they wouldnt be much different than my thoughts concerning Bisu advancing. Which is just that he was lucky Backho dropped out. I don't hate the guy, or even object to him being in the OSL. It'll be a better OSL with Bisu than Backho.
I was just annoyed at that one dudes stupid "wow worthy of a samsung player" comment and obvious attempt to passively aggresively piss people off. Stork cheesing has nothing to do with Bisu and their situations/haters come from completely different things.
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On January 29 2009 21:04 zatic wrote:
Liquibet : 2/2
Satisfaction: 0/2
We need the glory of 2008 back with streams ready the minute a game begins :-(
We can't help it (at least the only usable stream: VLC) because Corinthos is gone.
Maybe we should petition for him to come out of retirement?
I wonder if he'd actually listen.
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Man, I don't know why I voted against fOrGG. I betray Lecaf in hopes of seeing Sea actually do something, and he gets knocked out again.
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Of course Bisu deserved it. But are you guys going to turn around and do the same thing to Stork? In that case, Bisu antifans and Stork antifans deserve eachother.
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Indeed. A sad day for Seakind...
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
Men, describe me, why everybody cheer for Sea?
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Korea (South)922 Posts
*sigh* will sea ever get to a semifinal
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Russian Federation376 Posts
Why Stork is King acorn? )
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man I knew Forgg would advance but somewhere deep on the inside I really wanted Sea to win... so I voted Sea No clue why I like Sea so much, I think he is my mancrush!
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if you drop your first game to go.go you know youre F'd.
and they call Stork King Acorn because during the group selection magma called the 6 protoss dragons acorns, and said that stork was king acorn.
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Yay Stork made it through!
I was worried that Stork was beginning to slump, but luckily he didn't slump last night. :D
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WTF OP
Forgg was fucking A vs sea
Stork/Forgg rightfully advance
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I really would have liked to see Sea advance instead of Stork but...alas, it's a Starleague.
You have to wonder: is Sea now reaching the point in his career where his skill and motivation are no longer high enough for him to regularly qualify for Starleagues? He started so early that he might "burn out" faster - even though he's never lived up to his potential. Sort of a sad thought for Sea fans...I hope Sea's losses motivate him to practice harder, rather than give up because his nerves can't take the pressure of Starleague play.
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On January 30 2009 00:40 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Why Stork is King acorn? )
Baller MaGma, refer to MSL Group Selections.
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poor Sea
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omg gogo looke like a total freaknerd in that vod
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stork: fuck yea...
sea:
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
ahahah "FaGG"
that's awesome~
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WTF SEA<GOGO SERIOUSLYFUCK
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yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it
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United States12607 Posts
On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it
...I don't get these sorts of posts. Do you think Starleagues should be decided by something other than game results? Yeah, let's play the MSL, but then instead of letting the players who won games advance, we'll let the players who "deserve to win" advance. Sea wins!
Why all the fOrGG hate? It's like people don't remember he beat Kal, Flash, and then JD to win a MSL...this guy is a monster, he most definitely "deserves" to be in this MSL.
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The teamliquid attack sea did was really cool, too. To bad he hasn't really done well at all after that.
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gdammit sea is a freaking scrub
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Sea is such an overrated little newb. Face it sea fans; he just aint good, period.
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On January 30 2009 06:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Sea is such an overrated little newb. Face it sea fans; he just aint good, period.
He was doing well in ProLeague for a while :'(
But now he's overrated
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On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it
we wanted sea and now
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On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it
I don't understand why so many people here hate forGG, is it because he's actually better than FBH but nobody wants to admit it?
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On January 30 2009 06:42 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it ...I don't get these sorts of posts. Do you think Starleagues should be decided by something other than game results? Yeah, let's play the MSL, but then instead of letting the players who won games advance, we'll let the players who "deserve to win" advance. Sea wins! Why all the fOrGG hate? It's like people don't remember he beat Kal, Flash, and then JD to win a MSL...this guy is a monster, he most definitely "deserves" to be in this MSL.
main reason prolly y people hate him.... he took away peoples dreams of the flash/jd finals AND he took away jaedongs victory that prolly would of escalated jaedong in2 bonjwa status imo. also the fact that TL loves sea and beating him doesnt help your cause....
but going allout hate like in this thread is beyond me...
edit: forgg beating JD is prolly equal to when mind best bisu in the finals b4... i gurantee if JD or bisu won those finals eitehr one would of been considered bonjwas....
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Sea isn't really overrated. He is still one of the statistically best Terrans ever. Just these last few months he seems to be slumping. I'm sure he'll get out of it.
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On January 30 2009 07:28 Ideas wrote:
Sea isn't really overrated. He is still one of the statistically best Terrans ever. Just these last few months he seems to be slumping. I'm sure he'll get out of it. No, hes overrated. Who cares for statistics? It never crystallized in to jackshit, ever. For like three years he lost to scrubs in every individual league imaginable. The statistics imply Sea should have trouble losing the games, and yet he usually goes 0-2.
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Did anyone else laugh when they saw that gogo had 7 idle SCVs just lying around at his ramp for quite a while during the early -> mid game?
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Sea isn't overrated because noone except FakeSteve expects him to do anything.
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stork is becoming the neo-dreamer...playing like nal_ra when Kang Min was about to retire
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On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it
You think Forgg, who's won an MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing?
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On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won an MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing?
You are a hero for this post.
fOrGG fucking deserves his spot, screw Sea. fOrGG has proved already he can do something in a series and actually has a chance to win this.
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On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing?
fixed.
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On January 30 2009 09:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing? fixed.
that was bad
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On January 30 2009 09:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing? fixed.
he may never play that well again but it was most definitely not a fluke. you dont fluke wins over flash and jaedong in bo5's. the way he was playing during that msl he most certainly deserved it.
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On January 30 2009 09:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing? fixed.
lol
you dont fluke your way to an MSL win.
forGG >>>>> sea big time.
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The amount of trash talk in this forum about progamers is excessive...
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On January 30 2009 09:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing? fixed.
Can you please remind who fOrGG beat in that MSL?
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that was a stupid "fix" arb, seriously
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On January 30 2009 09:35 XYoonZ wrote:
The amount of trash talk in this forum about progamers is excessive...
Well, from what I gather from those fomos board translations, the koreans are just as bad. Anyways, I dunno if I'm speaking as a minority or a majority here but I just enjoy watching a good game of starcraft. I have some favourite players but I don't get up in arms over them. People like us do exist 
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On January 30 2009 09:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing? fixed.
not fixed because that MSL was one of the hardest earned MSL's ever. if u beat sea in a bo3 and kal, flash, jd ALL in a bo5.... that says miles about your play skill and his ability.... totally deserves this spot
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You guys fail if you don't realize Jaedong played horribly that day. Was a fluke that forGG got him on that day. Any other day and Jaedong would have won.
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On January 30 2009 09:56 TheNikeYork wrote:
You guys fail if you don't realize Jaedong played horribly that day. Was a fluke that forGG got him on that day. Any other day and Jaedong would have won.
or mayb forgg prepared better than JD that series?
even if wht u say is true how does that explain his series vs sea, kal, and flash?
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On January 30 2009 09:59 sung_moon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:56 TheNikeYork wrote:
You guys fail if you don't realize Jaedong played horribly that day. Was a fluke that forGG got him on that day. Any other day and Jaedong would have won. or mayb forgg prepared better than JD that series? even if wht u say is true how does that explain his series vs sea, kal, and flash?
He cheesed Flash iirc, so...
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On January 30 2009 10:00 TheNikeYork wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:59 sung_moon wrote:On January 30 2009 09:56 TheNikeYork wrote:
You guys fail if you don't realize Jaedong played horribly that day. Was a fluke that forGG got him on that day. Any other day and Jaedong would have won. or mayb forgg prepared better than JD that series? even if wht u say is true how does that explain his series vs sea, kal, and flash? He cheesed Flash iirc, so...
which was a smart idea considering flash 14cc'd every game i think.... seriously thou... if a player goes 14cc everygame wouldnt u play the same way forgg did?
thats another case where forgg prepared better than flash or was smarter....
edit: this is coming from a flash fan whos still to this day bitter about that series
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On January 30 2009 09:44 Xusneb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:35 XYoonZ wrote:
The amount of trash talk in this forum about progamers is excessive... Well, from what I gather from those fomos board translations, the koreans are just as bad. Anyways, I dunno if I'm speaking as a minority or a majority here but I just enjoy watching a good game of starcraft. I have some favourite players but I don't get up in arms over them. People like us do exist
True, Koreans can be worse. But i kind of let them go cause most of the Netizen that speak out are little kids 8-12 yrs old (Don't know if its the SC community, but the pop culture community are). Stupid kids that have too much time on their hands.
I just think we can tone it down a bit. I have my own group of "favorite players," but if they lose, then they lose. Why go around trying to start crap?
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Too mean. =/ I changed my mind.
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Guys, it's not a "fluke" Starleague win when you beat a top 4 (at the time, even now top 6) Protoss, best Terran, and best Zerg in consecutive BO5s.
ForGG played out of his mind in that MSL (I'm pretty sure he 3-1'd Flash and 3-0'd JD) and maybe he'll never play that well again but that doesn't change the fact that he won a Starleague and most definitely earned it.
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On January 30 2009 09:56 TheNikeYork wrote:
You guys fail if you don't realize Jaedong played horribly that day. Was a fluke that forGG got him on that day. Any other day and Jaedong would have won.
lol, Jaedong was already have a lot of trouble with ZvT during that time. So many people were expecting him to get raped by Hwasin at the semifinals but he pulled out 2hatch muta and Hwasin got beat because he wasn't expecting it at all. His ZvT still wasn't back to how it used to be, and forGG probably had experience playing against Jaedong prior to the finals and he just ran over him.
The three maps that were played were all rather Terran favoured, according to stats as well. Jaedong played on some disadvantageous maps playing standard 3hatch muta which was considered pretty much "solved" at the time.
And the argument that "someone played horribly so the other person was just lucky" argument is fucking flawed as well. If you failed then you failed, nothing else. Your argument is retarded.
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I don't think JD even played poorly in the MSL. ForGG just dismantled him.
Calling that MSL win a fluke could not be further from the fluke. I'm not even a fan of his, but I've rarely seen any player perform as well as ForGG did during that MSL run. He was absolutely superb.
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Just saw Stork vs ForGG vod...
GOD damn, Stork's reaver micro is so sick, you cannot touch those things O_O
sick sick sick
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ForGG is more legit than sea. He played amazing and deserved his MSL title, and he beat Sea yesterday. He deserves the spot over Sea, and is definitely more dangerous to have in the bracket (given how Sea plays in starleagues)
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ForGG played such a sick TvT game against sea, I love sea but damn forgg owned him in style there. 0/3 liquibet though lol.
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MrHoon
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ForGG isn't considered a fluke anymore
When rabid Jaedong fans and Flash fans were arguing all over the interwebs on who is the better player and other fanbases were getting annoyed as fuck, ForGG came by and shut up Jaedong and Flash fans by 3:1 flash and 3:0 Jaedong
Hence the reason why whenever ForGG wins a game everyone in korea spams the forums with
"CONQUERED", "DESTROYED", "RUINNNNED"
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Im as big a sea fan as anyone but I dont see the hate for forgg hes a good player and can put out exciting games. Im just sad sea lost to go.go, and then stork gaying his way through the group, but I suppose its to be expected the way hes playing lately.
I guess all sea can do is pray forgg falls down the steps again, you know how injury prone lecaf (or w/e they changed their name too) players are.
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In the end, the 2 best players advanced. So all's well that ends well. Feel sorry for Sea, but he's been sucking a lot recently even beyond starleagues, so it was kind of expected.
As for ForGG, I think being on Lecaf really doesn't allow ForGG to shine. Not only does he have to play 2nd fiddle to Jaedong, he also doesn't show up every proleague match because Lecaf has 3 terrans to use. Plus he keeps meeting Stork(WCG Korea, MSL twice), which for most terrans is basically auto-loss. So he gets underrated because it seem like he hasn't done anything since his MSL win.
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On January 30 2009 09:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 08:51 Rostam wrote:On January 30 2009 06:38 arb wrote:
yay for Forgg taking away a spot from someone who actually deserved it You think Forgg, who's won a fluke MSL, deserves this spot less than Sea, who has done absolutely nothing, and go.go, who has done less than nothing? fixed.
What the fuck. Did Lecaf buy your family? I don't understand this hate, first Jaedong now forGG
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It sucks for Forgg not to have a Protoss practice partner on his team. I would love to see him play the way he played in Arena MSL. His play was fucking awesome. Especially that PvT series vs Kal, best PvT series I have ever seen with shitloads of fucked up shit and styles, especially the game on athena where Forgg does his wtf hax imba macro. Forgg is a pretty entertaining player. Now if only he goes back to bio play in TvP hell fix it up with his sick macro.
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ForGG 68% vs P
Meets Much/Stork
=> 55% vs P, so sad.
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Sea is such a disappointment in Starleagues... *sigh*
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Sea has backho for protoss practice, and backho is actually quite good at tvp.
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Good to see Stork advance
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On January 30 2009 16:31 mog87 wrote:
Sea has backho for protoss practice, and backho is actually quite good at tvp.
you mean ForGG right?
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On January 30 2009 15:41 samachking wrote:
It sucks for Forgg not to have a Protoss practice partner on his team. I would love to see him play the way he played in Arena MSL. His play was fucking awesome. Especially that PvT series vs Kal, best PvT series I have ever seen with shitloads of fucked up shit and styles, especially the game on athena where Forgg does his wtf hax imba macro. Forgg is a pretty entertaining player. Now if only he goes back to bio play in TvP hell fix it up with his sick macro.
that match on athena defined the term "tactical retreat"
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On January 30 2009 10:47 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Just saw Stork vs ForGG vod...
GOD damn, Stork's reaver micro is so sick, you cannot touch those things O_O
sick sick sick
QFT.
I actually believe Stork's willingness to cheese is the sign of increased micro reliability, which means the kid is becoming more clutch and confident. Reminds me of that Bisu-Jangbi final with the reaver moment. If he can pull ez wins against ez opponents without breaking a sweat, then why not ?
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On February 01 2009 09:35 MyLovelyLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 10:47 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Just saw Stork vs ForGG vod...
GOD damn, Stork's reaver micro is so sick, you cannot touch those things O_O
sick sick sick QFT. I actually believe Stork's willingness to cheese is the sign of increased micro reliability, which means the kid is becoming more clutch and confident. Reminds me of that Bisu-Jangbi final with the reaver moment. If he can pull ez wins against ez opponents without breaking a sweat, then why not ?
Well, he could go for a standard reaver build since cheesing will lower people's respect for him.
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On February 01 2009 09:35 MyLovelyLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 10:47 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Just saw Stork vs ForGG vod...
GOD damn, Stork's reaver micro is so sick, you cannot touch those things O_O
sick sick sick QFT. I actually believe Stork's willingness to cheese is the sign of increased micro reliability, which means the kid is becoming more clutch and confident. Reminds me of that Bisu-Jangbi final with the reaver moment. If he can pull ez wins against ez opponents without breaking a sweat, then why not ?
Lol thats a nice spin there, his micro has always been good, so I dunno about confidence, he just wanted a quick and easy win thats all, Im sure he remembers how forgg almost beat his ass in the last MSL, so he wasnt take any chances. And I doubt he cares about fan's lowered respect or anything.
And yes, I meant forgg has backho to practice with, thank you for the correction, And again backho maybe hated and called a scrub but his PvT is pretty solid, even his PvP is ok, but his PvZ is horrible. Hes like some inverted protoss casy, minus the unit control and agression...uh I guess the comparison was only stastical.
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On February 01 2009 09:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2009 09:35 MyLovelyLurker wrote:On January 30 2009 10:47 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Just saw Stork vs ForGG vod...
GOD damn, Stork's reaver micro is so sick, you cannot touch those things O_O
sick sick sick QFT. I actually believe Stork's willingness to cheese is the sign of increased micro reliability, which means the kid is becoming more clutch and confident. Reminds me of that Bisu-Jangbi final with the reaver moment. If he can pull ez wins against ez opponents without breaking a sweat, then why not ? Well, he could go for a standard reaver build since cheesing will lower people's respect for him.
Whatever gives you more timing window :o
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