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jeez, free/mind is so hard to call
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My prediction:
Mind 2-0
Backho 2-1
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On January 11 2009 16:47 benjammin wrote: jeez, free/mind is so hard to call
It really is both so great at the matchup its a dream series i been waiting on it for weeks.
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lets go mind, you dropped both leagues lets not drop this one too
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2-1 Mind 2-0 Jangbi
That's what I think.
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Hoping for Jangbi and Mind. Won't make predictions because Mind/Free is going to be close, while it's unclear which Backho will be showing up. Although I do think Jangbi is now a more consistent PvPer than Stork nowadays, so he should win assuming no blunders.
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OMG.... so nervous for Pretty, SO NERVOUS.
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hey susie i saw you were going to expose us 'early comers'!
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zizi yO backho's journey ends here but i hope he wins anyway
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lol, they are playing some music video about obama
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is the gom link working for anyone? says not live server for me
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my link is working fine in vlc if that's what you are referring to, make sure to right click and copy the link and not just copy+paste since TL trims the length of links
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what kind of band name is HTML RULEZ D00D oh wait thats the song name
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On January 11 2009 17:52 benjammin wrote: my link is working fine in vlc if that's what you are referring to, make sure to right click and copy the link and not just copy+paste since TL trims the length of links right when you posted this, I was gonna edit my post. Thanks for the help! :p
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On January 11 2009 17:53 GTR-2-Go wrote: what kind of band name is HTML RULEZ D00D oh wait thats the song name It's the name of a terrible song by a band called The Devil Wears Prada
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there are so many things wrong with that
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Ahhh fancy new "DONATION" button on gom web
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Prada's are expensive though.
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i never thought i'd be happy to see fall out boy, but in light of some of the other stuff...
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On GOMTV site: [Notice] On January. 11, KST(GMT+9) 19:00, Classic Season 2 Ro.8 Game #2 Due to a medical problem, BackHo will be forfeiting his match and Jangbi will win by default.
Link:
http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/news/93
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1 more minute... Both epic matches. Hoping mind and jangbi advance.
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OOOh donations.
I may donate some!
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oh no backho hope he is alright
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i have a feeling someone hacked the GOMTV account.
i can't find any news of this on FOMOS nor FiFo.
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On January 11 2009 17:58 Liquid_Turbo wrote:On GOMTV site: [Notice] On January. 11, KST(GMT+9) 19:00, Classic Season 2 Ro.8 Game #2 Due to a medical problem, BackHo will be forfeiting his match and Jangbi will win by default. Link: http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/news/93 whaaaaat
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It must be pretty bad if hes forfeiting his matches....
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that's too bad. Poor backho
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On January 11 2009 17:58 Liquid_Turbo wrote:On GOMTV site: [Notice] On January. 11, KST(GMT+9) 19:00, Classic Season 2 Ro.8 Game #2 Due to a medical problem, BackHo will be forfeiting his match and Jangbi will win by default. Link: http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/news/93 pls update op
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Samsung killed him. I knew it
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On January 11 2009 18:00 rushz0rz wrote: It must be pretty bad if hes forfeiting his matches.... yeah, even FlaSh played with fever last time
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man it must be really serious for backho to forfeit his chance to move on in the only league he is still in
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5 people in the audience, GREAT
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ah never mind she announced it on stream
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Wow, that sucks for backho
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slipped disc ouchhhhh
that is like one of the most painful injuries you can have
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BACKHO IN THE HOSPITAL???
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Stork must be pretty mad, LOL they should just let Stork take his spot....
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holy shit back joke tasteless +1
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wow it's really serious injury, not like a fever
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aww JangBi gets a WBD. 
I actually like BackHo. zizi yO
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wtf he's disqualified for being sick or injured or whatever?
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BackHo got a HO` back
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awww that sucks less games for today :/
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this is like the first time i've ever seen someone forced to forfeit. =[
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As much as I like to rag on Backho, I really hate that this happened. I hope he gets well and play well in the future.
Good luck Backho in the OSL.
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FUCK
only half the normal amount of Tasteless + Susie this week. :[
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Ok, yeah, I'm for sure donating now.
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things like this should be counted as forfeit
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On January 11 2009 18:04 Kentor wrote: wtf he's disqualified for being sick or injured or whatever
yeh i don't understand that they should have just re-scheduled the game or something
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yeah, it's not like he is sick or anything, you literally cannot sit up straight with a back injury like that
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I actually never noticed the donation button. Or maybe I did and I just forgot that I did. Hmm
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i think jangbi should not accept the forfeit like gorush did vs silent_control, but backho could be in hospital in next 4 weeks too, it royally sucks man
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There was a donate button...?
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I wonder how good connection is needed to be able to use the HD feature..
I guess 24/1 should be good..?
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poor guy that really sucks for him
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On January 11 2009 18:05 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:04 Kentor wrote: wtf he's disqualified for being sick or injured or whatever yeh i don't understand that they should have just re-scheduled the game or something
If they do that, I can see all kinds of problems with overexaggerating or faking injuries.
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subliminal donate messages ftw
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Not a Backho fan, but this still sucks, especially when you hear that he has been training for this match all week.
If he is in the hospital for a couple of weeks, there is not a whole lot they can though, rescheduling is not really an option.
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Oh shit. Gom is going to go under. Or maybe the english deal. The "two levels" deal is the last resort of desperate men.
(Remember IGN and their insider? They survived (and got huge), but if you know the story everyone working there thought they were done. Shit.)
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uhhh they don't even advertise their donation page and I can't find it. and about backho at least make it off air or something?
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I wouldn't call 600kbps HD but sure better quality is nice I guess.
"1. I have checked my network settings to make sure I can handle a minimum of 600 Kbps."
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I will donate even though I don't care that much about HD.
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I'm not a fan of GOM asking for 'donations' for their HQ stream. On Korean GOM, they offer the same exact service for free (and a slightly higher quality I think).
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new hair cut fro lecaf coach?
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the coach is making an announcement to all the 5 people in the seats
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wow a surgery? it really sucks more.
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On January 11 2009 18:09 GTR-2-Go wrote: I'm not a fan of GOM asking for 'donations' for their HQ stream. On Korean GOM, they offer the same exact service for free (and a slightly higher quality I think).
But they have to run the English cast servers abroad, no? Wouldn't that be a bit more expensive?
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On January 11 2009 18:05 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:04 Kentor wrote: wtf he's disqualified for being sick or injured or whatever yeh i don't understand that they should have just re-scheduled the game or something
Slipped discs don't heal quickly, he'll be in a full body cast or whatever for months
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Ummm why are they asking for donations and have 5 people in the audience? Is gom going down?
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On January 11 2009 18:09 renegade_zerg wrote: the coach is making an announcement to all the 5 people in the seats
what boggles me even more is that i could find nothing about this on FOMOS.
this is the first time i've heard of this.
it would have been more appropraite if lecaf sent out a press release saying backho is injured or whatever and isn't able to participate etc etc
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On January 11 2009 18:09 GTR-2-Go wrote: I'm not a fan of GOM asking for 'donations' for their HQ stream. On Korean GOM, they offer the same exact service for free (and a slightly higher quality I think).
Again, donate if you want to keep the English thing going. This two level thing is what sites do when they need $.
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NOOOOOO BACKHO. Hope he gets better really soon.
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Suzie is such a good translator
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Why is he apologizing? The guy has serious problems, there's no need to apologize that he wont be able to play.
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awww no backho how can we not have the guy who beat stork T.T
best wishes to him.
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Kentor
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On January 11 2009 18:11 sashkata wrote: Why is he apologizing? The guy has serious problems, there no need to apologize that he wont be able to play. lol that's like making that old guy who got shot by dick cheney to apologize
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On January 11 2009 18:11 johanes wrote:
Anyone have Backho's email address?!?!
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oh damn I feel bad for BackHo... Do some sport, man ! Don't spare all your free time with JD in the bath...
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Free so overrated, calling it 2-0 Mind
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On January 11 2009 18:13 cz wrote: Free so overrated, calling it 2-0 Mind Yeah man when he raped jd that was so overrated
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BackHo Really gets forfeited?
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On January 11 2009 18:12 disciple wrote:oh damn  I feel bad for BackHo... Do some sport, man ! Don't spare all your free time with JD in the bath... roflll wheres that pic? I bet JD humped his spine out of order for Christmas and the day after his back started hurting.
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Is GOM really going to go down?!
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On January 11 2009 18:14 Scaramanga wrote:Yeah man when he raped jd that was so overrated 
Everyone gets one.
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On January 11 2009 18:13 cz wrote: Free so overrated, calling it 2-0 Mind
He really is not
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Kentor
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where the hell do you donate? man this is frustrating! IM FRUSTRATED 'CAUSE I CANT DONATE FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-
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On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Well asking for donations really sounds like it >.>
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On January 11 2009 18:14 Infinity.SkyLark wrote: BackHo Really gets forfeited?
No. It's a big joke.
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On January 11 2009 18:13 cz wrote: Free so overrated, calling it 2-0 Mind it's exactly the other way round
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On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?!
Where did you hear this?
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On January 11 2009 18:12 disciple wrote:oh damn  I feel bad for BackHo... Do some sport, man ! Don't spare all your free time with JD in the bath... well if he`d spare all his time in the bath with JD, he would`ve been in better shape than playin` starcraft D:
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They have the same ELO...
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"We're like the ice climbers"
BWAHAHAHAHA
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On January 11 2009 18:14 Kentor wrote: where the hell do you donate? man this is frustrating! IM FRUSTRATED 'CAUSE I CANT DONATE FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-
Seriously?... http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/live/
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On January 11 2009 18:15 NotSupporting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Where did you hear this?
Sorry, I was just speculating from the comments from before. Come to think of it, how can it possibly be profitable to broadcast to an english audience? Especially since the advertisements are for products not available?
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So few people in the studio. wtf.
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No one in audience.. O_O
Hoping for Mind 2-0
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Mind must WiN!!! Lets go Terran!
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PIMP JACKET WAT
u mad brahs?
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On January 11 2009 18:15 NotSupporting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Where did you hear this?
Probably me in this thread. I know nothing, but I know sites always try the $ for HD / extra content when they're in trouble. E.g, IGN, techtv guys,etc...
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here comes Mind and he looks just casual
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that would actually be so embarassing to come out and stand on a podium for like 4-5 people in the audience.
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On January 11 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote: GENERAL ROMMEL ENTERS.
Does everyone get this reference? Tasteless missed it last time.
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Mind looks depressed. sad =(
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On January 11 2009 18:17 StrikeFLOW wrote: So few people in the studio. wtf.
Seriously, I think there's fewer spectators than commentators. What's up with that?
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On January 11 2009 18:18 rushz0rz wrote: that would actually be so embarassing to come out and stand on a podium for like 4-5 people in the audience.
so true
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On January 11 2009 18:17 Liquid_Turbo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:15 NotSupporting wrote:On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Where did you hear this? Sorry, I was just speculating from the comments from before. Come to think of it, how can it possibly be profitable to broadcast to an english audience? Especially since the advertisements are for products not available? Actually i think they're preparing for SC2, which should be really big in foriegner community too. And i'm sure you can buy some Intel stuff
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On January 11 2009 18:19 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:17 Liquid_Turbo wrote:On January 11 2009 18:15 NotSupporting wrote:On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Where did you hear this? Sorry, I was just speculating from the comments from before. Come to think of it, how can it possibly be profitable to broadcast to an english audience? Especially since the advertisements are for products not available? Actually i think they're preparing for SC2, which should be really big in foriegner community too. And i'm sure you can buy some Intel stuff  Jeez, SC2 is gonna be huuuuge.
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They speak the truth about terrans.
I am an extremely angry individual when reavers get in my base. >=\
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On January 11 2009 18:19 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:17 Liquid_Turbo wrote:On January 11 2009 18:15 NotSupporting wrote:On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Where did you hear this? Sorry, I was just speculating from the comments from before. Come to think of it, how can it possibly be profitable to broadcast to an english audience? Especially since the advertisements are for products not available? Actually i think they're preparing for SC2, which should be really big in foriegner community too. And i'm sure you can buy some Intel stuff  I became a fanboy of Intel after they started sponsoring Gom
only reason my new computer has an Intel processor in it.
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On January 11 2009 18:19 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:17 Liquid_Turbo wrote:On January 11 2009 18:15 NotSupporting wrote:On January 11 2009 18:14 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Is GOM really going to go down?! Where did you hear this? Sorry, I was just speculating from the comments from before. Come to think of it, how can it possibly be profitable to broadcast to an english audience? Especially since the advertisements are for products not available? Actually i think they're preparing for SC2, which should be really big in foriegner community too. And i'm sure you can buy some Intel stuff 
I'm actually getting a new Intel processor in my computer. Maybe these advertisements manipulated me!
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maybe more audience might come and watch Jangbi vs BackHO.
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AHHH IM HERE, HAS IT STARTED ? God im so torned between both of them.
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I always thought the Z players were the angry ones
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RAGE LIKE A TERRAN PLAYER!
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On January 11 2009 18:21 EpiK wrote: I always thought the Z players were the angry ones
no... Zerg players are the whiners.
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Backho was looking a bit sick when he played July.
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is anyone getting a Not Live Server error?
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I play Zerg and I'm way too laid back for my own good.
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On January 11 2009 18:22 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:21 EpiK wrote: I always thought the Z players were the angry ones no... Zerg players are the whiners.
Then whats Protoss? ;O
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SAY IT TASTELESS, GET THE REFERNCE
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On January 11 2009 18:21 EpiK wrote: I always thought the Z players were the angry ones
i think jaedong just tips the angry scale
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lol miss again, nobody gets the rommel reference?
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On January 11 2009 18:10 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:09 GTR-2-Go wrote: I'm not a fan of GOM asking for 'donations' for their HQ stream. On Korean GOM, they offer the same exact service for free (and a slightly higher quality I think). But they have to run the English cast servers abroad, no? Wouldn't that be a bit more expensive?
99.83% of the TL members is so naive -_-; GOM is a big company if they can spare i dont know how much on prizemoney you dont think they can afford a server for HQ streaming and you have to donate??? Im sure they have plenty of cash for that, they just wanna take advantage of the community where the community pays for GOM's expenses and efforts in getting their name spread...
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hahaha "Excellent control over tanks" it's not like micro in real war, Susie.
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On January 11 2009 18:22 Roxen000 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:22 rushz0rz wrote:On January 11 2009 18:21 EpiK wrote: I always thought the Z players were the angry ones no... Zerg players are the whiners. Then whats Protoss? ;O More like terrans are the whiners, at least the Media bandwagoners.
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Tasteless is like a kid and Susie is the mother hahahaha THEY BUG OUT ALL THE TIME AHHH (hahahah) XD
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are you guys watching ? cause the stream just died for me and then I have this when I click on the watch live button "Not Live Server."
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On January 11 2009 18:20 rushz0rz wrote: I'm actually getting a new Intel processor in my computer. Maybe these advertisements manipulated me! fanboyism aside AMD in the last year or two is simply no match for Intel
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Here's the Rommel deeper reference: Rommel was known as the Desert Fox, and Mind plays on WeMade FOX. ding ding
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On January 11 2009 18:22 Roxen000 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:22 rushz0rz wrote:On January 11 2009 18:21 EpiK wrote: I always thought the Z players were the angry ones no... Zerg players are the whiners. Then whats Protoss? ;O
The lame noobs with no mechanics, you asked for it.
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On January 11 2009 18:22 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:10 rushz0rz wrote:On January 11 2009 18:09 GTR-2-Go wrote: I'm not a fan of GOM asking for 'donations' for their HQ stream. On Korean GOM, they offer the same exact service for free (and a slightly higher quality I think). But they have to run the English cast servers abroad, no? Wouldn't that be a bit more expensive? 99.83% of the TL members is so naive -_-; GOM is a big company if they can spare i dont know how much on prizemoney you dont think they can afford a server for HQ streaming and you have to donate??? Im sure they have plenty of cash for that, they just wanna take advantage of the community where the community pays for GOM's expenses and efforts in getting their name spread... I know i would pay for daniel lee
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On January 11 2009 18:23 disciple wrote: are you guys watching ? cause the stream just died for me and then I have this when I click on the watch live button "Not Live Server."
ya im getting that too,
is the VLC that was posted above, it works good for me
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On January 11 2009 18:23 cz wrote: Here's the Rommel deeper reference: Rommel was known as the Desert Fox, and Mind plays on WeMade FOX. ding ding
Or because Rommel was a General for tank divisions and Mind has good tank micro!
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Trying to stay up to watch this, but...tipsy.
And no Backho VS Jangbi. =(
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Can Pretty "free" himself from the desert fox?" lol
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"Can Pretty free himself from the Desert Fox" I like that line lol get it "free"
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desert fox
I miss that map...
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On January 11 2009 18:24 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:23 cz wrote: Here's the Rommel deeper reference: Rommel was known as the Desert Fox, and Mind plays on WeMade FOX. ding ding Or because Rommel was a General for tank divisions and Mind has good tank micro!
Yeah that's the obvious part.
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On January 11 2009 18:24 Chau wrote: Trying to stay up to watch this, but...tipsy.
And no Backho VS Jangbi. =(
WHAT! NO WAY!
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hahaha "Can Pretty Free himself from the Desert Fox"
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On January 11 2009 18:25 rushz0rz wrote: hahaha "Can Pretty Free himself from the Desert Fox"
I don't get the desert fox thing.
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On January 11 2009 18:26 NotSupporting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:25 rushz0rz wrote: hahaha "Can Pretty Free himself from the Desert Fox" I don't get the desert fox thing.
Erwin Rommel, a German General in World War 2, was nicknamed the Desert Fox for his success in Afrika with the German Afrika Korps. He is regarded as, quite possibly, the best General for desert conditions.
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desert fox is Rommel's nickname
and probably the most epic map in existance
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On January 11 2009 18:27 oshibori_probe wrote: desert fox is Rommel's nickname
and probably the most epic map in existance
desert fox? epic map? whaat?
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"That date was good... it was GG". lol.
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hm my stream is like 10 seconds behind
is there anyway for it to go back up to speed or am i doomed to live with this
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On January 11 2009 18:30 whatusername wrote: hm my stream is like 10 seconds behind
is there anyway for it to go back up to speed or am i doomed to live with this
re-start it through gomtv.net ?
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On January 11 2009 18:28 Hyperionnn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:27 oshibori_probe wrote: desert fox is Rommel's nickname
and probably the most epic map in existance desert fox? epic map? whaat? check tlpd for the maps >.> it's a pretty cool map
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rommel was a tank general nicknamed the desert fox, Mind`s new nickname is rommel because he is from wemade fox and he has great tank micro
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oh man, those turrets look like they're in exaclty the right place.
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My stream is really bad today .
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Wow, Mind defense was god damn solid, the reaver harass was useless.
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ahahahaha this zealot is driving this shuttle around like aaah where do i go
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mind should be ahead, although that's a lot of turrets
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What a reaver defense holy shit
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On January 11 2009 18:30 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:28 Hyperionnn wrote:On January 11 2009 18:27 oshibori_probe wrote: desert fox is Rommel's nickname
and probably the most epic map in existance desert fox? epic map? whaat? check tlpd for the maps >.> it's a pretty cool map
i think that that map was terrible lol
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hahahaa "whats aiur, whats for aiur"? "what? oooh you listen to the voices, you're a newb"
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alright, and here comes in free again, and we'll see if he manages to get any more damage
he gets 2 vults and like 2 scv's? something like that
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I never hear unit sounds anymore, it's like they aren't there.
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i kind of feel bad for susie, shes a waitress for nick too, apparently.
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alright, and it looks like free is going to try to pick up his fourth, and try to narrow all of the pathways with pylons.
where are the goons free. Change your name back, pretty is not suitable for a dragon xD
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On January 11 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote: i kind of feel bad for susie, shes a waitress for nick too, apparently.
just an assistant looks like
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On January 11 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote: i kind of feel bad for susie, shes a waitress for nick too, apparently. well he's doing most of the talking, not that most of it makes much sense
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mind's vult harass is still looking top notch xD
1 arb, mind still isn't moving out, dship moving out looking like it's going to try to do damage
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On January 11 2009 18:23 disciple wrote: are you guys watching ? cause the stream just died for me and then I have this when I click on the watch live button "Not Live Server."
Try IE. Worked for me.
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free loses a reaver, with the reaver only killing 1 vult as it dies. free better have a lot of gates so that he can crush the push as it comes out. 2-1 grades for mind, 180 supp for free, 150 supp for mind
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i had the "not live server" problem too, so i switched to the korean broadcast
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oh he's got two shuttles on Medusa guys! looool
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On January 11 2009 18:38 dragoonkf wrote: GODLIKE EMP !!!!
can you not post if you're watching a stream thats ahead?
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dam i cant believe those scvs got away
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0-0-0 grades for free, so it looks like it's not going to be good for free when he decides to move
free better have really good macro to make it through
wow, emp streat to the arbs, i don't think free's going to be able to do anything about it.
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well tasteless has really no idea what's happening in the game
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Funny how like Tasteless is like angry at free for playing bad :p
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Free had about 30 supply advantage but now it's 200-200 with free being about 2 bases ahead.
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On January 11 2009 18:40 rushz0rz wrote:can you not post if you're watching a stream thats ahead?
ouch, sorry, i missed that. Yea, if you're not watching the english gom stream, please don't spoil it.
It's not a bannable thing, it's a be nice to others thing
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Pretty is playing so fucking bad. He's nervous, I can tell. He did this same exact shit vs. Bisu in the last MSL.
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On January 11 2009 18:41 amorpheus wrote: well tasteless has really no idea what's happening in the game
def. not true, but it's tough to keep track of everything that's going on in the game
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Those 8 templars better cast some nice storms for Free to win the inevitble fight.
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On January 11 2009 18:41 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:40 rushz0rz wrote:On January 11 2009 18:38 dragoonkf wrote: GODLIKE EMP !!!! can you not post if you're watching a stream thats ahead? ouch, sorry, i missed that. Yea, if you're not watching the english gom stream, please don't spoil it. It's not a bannable thing, it's a be nice to others thing
I was like... huh? no emp... then 5 minutes later theres an emp, so he must be really ahead.
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WTF FREE WENT INTO A CORNER? WTF?
Recall in mind's minonly.
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that's a lot of gates for free, and free has enough of the map to be able to keep it up. both players are maxed out, and free is trusting that the mass number of gates is going to be able to keep up for him. recall goes off for free, but i odn't think that free is going tobe able to multitask for two groups
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Hehe srry guys, just got too excited, This is a nice game for me.
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Nice stoms for Free storming mind's main force coming down onto 6 expos.
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with the arbs, free is going to be able to spread out the map, and hopefully be able to get back into this game. free's base at 7 and 8 are shut down
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2/3 ups for Mind while free still 0-0-0?
Free's force is destroyed at 9 because he stupidly stuck all his forces there.
3:4 bases. Free can still win,
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laggy streams are better than a laggy computer *sighs* that's my own problem i guess.
really good recall by free to try to nail all of the scv's at 5, but he's only going to shut down the expansion for a little.
supply difference is mind at 155, and free at 182
free has 5k min, mind has 100
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free has 5k minerals, lol
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Free has 5000 minerals -_-
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wow pretty has 5k minerals?
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wow mind has no money, still v close
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Germany2762 Posts
damn, when i click view live on gomtv.net i get a message " not live server " T_T
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Hungary11291 Posts
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On January 11 2009 18:45 jhNz wrote: damn, when i click view live on gomtv.net i get a message " not live server " T_T I had the same, I just fed the link from page 1 into GOM and it's working alright.
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Free has way too many minerals, all he has to do is carefully take a couple more expansions and whittle the Terran army down and recall on expos.
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United States17042 Posts
the mineral count is what you care about though, as free can max really really quickly.
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mind is screwed as the table turns 5k minerals and 200/200 cant game
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Free needs goons -_-
Still 4700 minerals.
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its misplaced because there is a mine there and he didnt feel like getting rid of it.
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190 vs 150 sup count. FRee can do this!
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I'm not sure why tasteless keep saying mind's ahead when Free had a lot more economy the whole game, and was maxed for quite a while.
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free at 1- 0 - 2 for upgrades
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United States17042 Posts
well free actually is only 1 basing, so it really depends on how many times free can max vs how many units mind can take down
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HAHAHA MIND TAKE THAT NICE RECALL INTO MIND'S GAS EXPO!
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United States17042 Posts
mind is not mining anymore, and if he snpies that cc it's all over
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15 mins 19 gas for mind lol
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Free is so close from winning this
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free's still got 4k min, so it should be all over. I wonder how much it matters that free isn't mining very well from his 7 oclock expansion
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Free winning that was impressive.
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So this is how toss should do in Medusa!
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total domination from free there, i dunno what tasteless was talking about
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gg~~ Mind still got this !
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Mind has weak mid to late TvP...
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Mind had that.
WTF
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4k minerals, Free should have won that 5 minutes ago.
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On January 11 2009 18:50 benjammin wrote: total domination from free there, i dunno what tasteless was talking about
Mind just sat in his base too long
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awful awful map that is, kick that shit out
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well the harass could have worked better for free, but i think that he managed to make it back really well. pretty cool from free, and i'm not sure that mind could have done much else to win. Mind is probably already thinking about the next game, and we'll hafta see how it goes.
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wow. wooooooooooooooooooooow. comeback much?
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Nice comeback free.
Mind had a 200 2-2 army when he first EMP'd the two arbs... vs 0-0-0 protoss.. 200t vs 180p supply.. wtf!!!
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i just read this on the gomtv page, don't know if it's true or not, i just tuned in:
Andy [2009.01.11 18:00:27 | 221.148.56.112] Due to a medical problem, BackHo will be forfeiting his match and Jangbi will win by default. We wish BackHo a speedy recovery and hope that he will be back with us again soon. Jangbi will continue onto the semifinals.
Have great fun with GOMTV!
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Mind's TvP revolves around denying money but Protoss picks up 3 base easy on Medusa, and the 4th is pretty easy to hold as well.
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I agreed with tasteless i thought mind was dead so i left for a couple mins.. wtf happened
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On January 11 2009 18:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote: well the harass could have worked better for free, but i think that he managed to make it back really well. pretty cool from free, and i'm not sure that mind could have done much else to win. Mind is probably already thinking about the next game, and we'll hafta see how it goes.
Still think Mind lost it more than Free won it, Mind just forgot that he had to attack instead of let his opponent mind off like 5 expansions.
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sorry for saying it but Mind is baaaaad ! It was so obvious he would do the 3 base max out , but his ups were too late anyway, free got the entire map in that time
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On January 11 2009 18:52 jhNz wrote:i just read this on the gomtv page, don't know if it's true or not, i just tuned in: Show nested quote + Andy [2009.01.11 18:00:27 | 221.148.56.112] Due to a medical problem, BackHo will be forfeiting his match and Jangbi will win by default. We wish BackHo a speedy recovery and hope that he will be back with us again soon. Jangbi will continue onto the semifinals.
Have great fun with GOMTV!
it's being reported in the broodwar section as well.
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dark, not to mention free had like half the map running for a while when mind had 3 bases
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On January 11 2009 18:51 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Nice comeback free.
Mind had a 200 2-2 army when he first EMP'd the two arbs... vs 0-0-0 protoss.. 200t vs 180p supply.. wtf!!!
Doesn't matter how big ur army is if you don't use it
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On January 11 2009 18:53 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:51 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Nice comeback free.
Mind had a 200 2-2 army when he first EMP'd the two arbs... vs 0-0-0 protoss.. 200t vs 180p supply.. wtf!!! Doesn't matter how big ur army is if you don't use it
When he EMP'd the 2 arbs he was sitting right outside of Pretty's 4th.
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United States17042 Posts
alright, next game, with mind at the top right, and free at the bottom left
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I can't believe Mind lost that...
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On January 11 2009 18:52 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:52 jhNz wrote:i just read this on the gomtv page, don't know if it's true or not, i just tuned in: Andy [2009.01.11 18:00:27 | 221.148.56.112] Due to a medical problem, BackHo will be forfeiting his match and Jangbi will win by default. We wish BackHo a speedy recovery and hope that he will be back with us again soon. Jangbi will continue onto the semifinals.
Have great fun with GOMTV!
it's being reported in the broodwar section as well.
oh now i see it 
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On January 11 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:53 cz wrote:On January 11 2009 18:51 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Nice comeback free.
Mind had a 200 2-2 army when he first EMP'd the two arbs... vs 0-0-0 protoss.. 200t vs 180p supply.. wtf!!! Doesn't matter how big ur army is if you don't use it When he EMP'd the 2 arbs he was sitting right outside of Pretty's 4th.
I think that it was just a bad decision by mind- if he had done a tornado style push, he could have punished pretty's 0-0-0 army, and not given free time to rebuid
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On January 11 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:53 cz wrote:On January 11 2009 18:51 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Nice comeback free.
Mind had a 200 2-2 army when he first EMP'd the two arbs... vs 0-0-0 protoss.. 200t vs 180p supply.. wtf!!! Doesn't matter how big ur army is if you don't use it When he EMP'd the 2 arbs he was sitting right outside of Pretty's 4th.
No he was outside of his own natural, his vessel came out and sniped an EMP and he didn't move out beyond sieging a little outside his own expansion
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Many much luck!
:read Elric_'s blog if you don't understand this.
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I still believe in you, Dragonslayer!
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United States17042 Posts
fast dt with cut probes looks like from free. a different cheese based on the short pathing distance. Cool.
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can't the scv go up the ramp with the zeal in that position?
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Smaller map = less chance of long game = better for mind
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God I love seeing Protoss cheese. Especially when the opposing player loses.
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United States17042 Posts
siege expand, a fast siege expand is coming from mind, and mind is just looking for that proxy. That mini map looks like it has been scouting all over.
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omg fast DT's
this might work
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Man my hands are itching so much to post =/
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United States17042 Posts
expansion after first dt is started building, and mind might have seen that if he was paying a ton of attention.
that turret is goig to get up in time, and the wall should work no problem. I think this puts free behind
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On January 11 2009 18:59 dragoonkf wrote: Man my hands are itching so much to post =/
well please dont. we really dont want spoilers.
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that is a pretty pimp play by mind
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United States17042 Posts
mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think
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that was nice play by mind
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OMFG MIND THAT WAS GASMIC
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Your current PC Internet Speed : 50Kbps
LOL? I am on a 24mb connection :S
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They need to stop saying HD!
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On January 11 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote: mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think
1 tank to save all his scvs that would have died and all the turrets he'd after to build.
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On January 11 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 18:59 dragoonkf wrote: Man my hands are itching so much to post =/ well please dont. we really dont want spoilers.
we thank you for not posting ahead of everyone else
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battle starts and stream is fucked deja-vu
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i'd trade a tank if it meant keeping a base up and not losing scvs
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On January 11 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote: mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think
Would have been twice as expensive if the DT got to fuck around and delay SCV's from mining.
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On January 11 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote: mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think so is dt rush :\
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On January 11 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote: mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think
I'd give up my tank to stay in the game, wouldn't you? Such a pimp move!
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Lawl. I just took the network check on GomTV and got 36kbs... Yet 99% of Season 2 I've had perfect streaming. :S
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United States17042 Posts
no robo arbiters, but it's going to be predicted by mind i think. It's a pretty easy cheesy followup to fast dt
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On January 11 2009 19:01 Roxen000 wrote: Lawl. I just took the network check on GomTV and got 36kbs... Yet 99% of Season 2 I've had perfect streaming. :S
You probably have gom stream and other stuff open, so its only counting your unused kbs.
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On January 11 2009 19:01 Xstatic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote: mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think I'd give up my tank to stay in the game, wouldn't you? Such a pimp move!
he had another turret at the top of the ramp, but i guess it let him keep his expo up no problem. He could have shot his own scv's, which probably would have been cheaper. I'm not playing though, so i guess i won't think about it too much xD
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the fast arbs was just scouted, so mind knows that this is coming. Recall isn't going to finish for a while, and science vessels as a tech tree have just finished.
16 goons and 7 zeals for free, 9 vults and 7 tank for mind
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On January 11 2009 19:02 GHOSTCLAW wrote: no robo arbiters, but it's going to be predicted by mind i think. It's a pretty easy cheesy followup to fast dt
Why do protoss like to play 2 base arbiter style ? Especially on chupung ryeong, It doesn't seem effective to me and it is costly.
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On January 11 2009 19:03 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:01 Xstatic wrote:On January 11 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote: mind just shot his own tank to get the own dt. kind of expensive, do n't you think I'd give up my tank to stay in the game, wouldn't you? Such a pimp move! he had another turret at the top of the ramp, but i guess it let him keep his expo up no problem. He could have shot his own scv's, which probably would have been cheaper. I'm not playing though, so i guess i won't think about it too much xD
tank was dying to DT anyway so it doesnt matter
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On January 11 2009 19:03 DM20 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:01 Roxen000 wrote: Lawl. I just took the network check on GomTV and got 36kbs... Yet 99% of Season 2 I've had perfect streaming. :S You probably have gom stream and other stuff open, so its only counting your unused kbs.
Oh ok, I see. Thanks.
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United States17042 Posts
dear god that was a bad pun from tasteless.
anyway, pretty is threatening a recall, first science vessel is now up for mind.
and yes, it is a doodad. it's not a creature
stop the bad puns! my ears! lol xD
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susie's pun just made my gom player crash
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United States17042 Posts
dropship is finished for mind, looks like he's planning on dropping the main by staying along the top edge, and then the left hand edge of the map.
third cc is done, floating over, and a slowpush, or maybe a faster push is going to be necessary to make sure it stays held.
obs sees the 2 dships, saves them
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On January 11 2009 19:05 Rostam wrote:susie's pun just made my gom player crash 
it's just that powerful xD
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alright, so mind is going to try to push out now, and make sure that he can save his third. 1-0 grades for mind
2 stasis for free, but they're at the front. not enough dps from the remaining tanks, so free should be able to walk away with this no problem
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Gah..
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+ Show Spoiler +
nice, killed like 3 dragoons in exchange for 10 tanks and 10 vults
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woah this was the most disappointing gomtv day ever :[
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Not looking pretty for Mind..
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United States17042 Posts
162 supply from free, 117 now from mind. free looks like he's just goin to be able to push straight into the nat of mind
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its not about how Mind not playing well but Free is just playing superb!
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Kentor
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Waterbottle, rocolla and MOUSEPAD? what?
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that's just wasn't good enough by mind >.>
girls and tasteless? stories? lol
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tasteless utility belt ...
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Maybe Mind should take an early game disadvantage, doesn't seem to be able to win when he gets a big early game adv.
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I am happy yet sad, what kind of feeling is this O_O ?
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mind is a joke, he always was. the new age sync
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This series was so dissapointing it was supposed to be amazing
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United States17042 Posts
it just wasn't enough from mind. It wasn't exactly a standard game, and now mind is just in trouble. I think that mind isn't going to be able to do anything.
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wow, is Mind really sad about backho or something? Worst games of the GOM season, imo. Just horrible. And it's worse that I expected these games to be good. sheesh.
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better luck next time mind
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... short, disappointing match
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Mind was playing so sloppy today, damm ~.~
and he ggs.
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Nice, Pretty. Mind you suck, get out.
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they should've done jangbi vs tasteless for the second games!
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So underwhelming. Free didn't even play that well.
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there is no more terran justice now.
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they should show replays or something to compensate for the lost matches today (
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Just play the Jangbi vs. free right away, so we have some more to watch!
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On January 11 2009 19:11 Hyperionnn wrote: 3 dragons in ro4 nice.
it's not nice, just boring.
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So is skyhigh the only terran left in GOM ? Im guessing another pvp final.
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although i was rooting for Free i didnt expect him to beat Mind
wow impressive win for Free!
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On January 11 2009 19:11 anch wrote: there is no more terran justice now.
SKYHIGH BELIEVE
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On January 11 2009 19:11 Puosu wrote:they should show replays or something to compensate for the lost matches today  (
GOMTV doesn't owe u anything.
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Skyhigh needs to beat bisu now! we don't want a PvP on the Finals.
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today sucked. hope Skyhigh plays better next week and goes to the finals.
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I hope skyhigh wins now, lol
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On January 11 2009 19:12 ambit!ous1 wrote: although i was rooting for Free i didnt expect him to beat Mind
wow impressive win for Free!
No not really Mind just decided to play like piss
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I wanna see BackHo...
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On January 11 2009 19:12 dragoonkf wrote: So is skyhigh the only terran left in GOM ? Im guessing another pvp final.
well Skyhigh has been showing some really nice games, if he can take down Bisu it will be tvp final, I really hope for it.
edit: it will be bo5 tho I guess, and that favors Bisu imo.
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WE FLY HIGH NO LIE, YOU KNOW THIS, WE BALLIN.
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jangbi vs tasteless gogogo
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Meh, lame series. Liquibition better not disappoint :D And I'm feeling bad for Backho that he had to miss his chance at a shot at the semifinals : /
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On January 11 2009 19:11 Xstatic wrote: So underwhelming. Free didn't even play that well. yes, but it was more than enough
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On January 11 2009 19:12 Liquid_Turbo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:11 Puosu wrote:they should show replays or something to compensate for the lost matches today  ( GOMTV doesn't owe u anything. Oh they do
mirrions of dorrars
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Whos actually gonna donate?
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On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate?
I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream.
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<3 Tastles & Suzie
dont forget to DONATE guys gogo!
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On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream.
80% of ppl who want to watch it won't be able to because of the bandwidth required to do so.
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On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate?
i might ._..
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so long with Mind's "great" tvp
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On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. And then GomTV will send out an army of ninja Garimtos to assassinate everyone who uses it.
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On January 11 2009 19:19 poilord wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate? I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. And then GomTV will send out an army of ninja Garimtos to assassinate everyone who uses it.
Hey, I won't be using it. My internet sucks too bad to be able to stream HQ.
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seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_-
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On January 11 2009 19:18 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate? I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. 80% of ppl who want to watch it won't be able to because of the bandwidth required to do so.
Bingo. =\
HD stream requires a 4mbit d/l speed.
I have a 1 mbit d/l speed.
=(
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After Bisu rapes skyhigh it will be a MSL semi-final/final rematch for Bisu again lol
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On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_- finding a company that does not try to make a profit somehow is pretty hard..
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On January 11 2009 19:22 VorcePA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:18 cz wrote:On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate? I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. 80% of ppl who want to watch it won't be able to because of the bandwidth required to do so. Bingo. =\ HD stream requires a 4mbit d/l speed. I have a 1 mbit d/l speed. =(
It's only 600kpbs quality, so if you can watch OGN on Corinthos/VLC, you can watch this.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
That was a total one-sided rape.
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On January 11 2009 19:24 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:22 VorcePA wrote:On January 11 2009 19:18 cz wrote:On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate? I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. 80% of ppl who want to watch it won't be able to because of the bandwidth required to do so. Bingo. =\ HD stream requires a 4mbit d/l speed. I have a 1 mbit d/l speed. =( It's only 600kpbs quality, so if you can watch OGN on Corinthos/VLC, you can watch this. I thought HD needed far more than 600, kind of strange.
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On January 11 2009 19:23 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_- finding a company that does not try to make a profit somehow is pretty hard..
not really there are plenty of non profit organisations, athough maybe company is a wrong description for them its basically the same... fact is they should call it an investment rather than caling it donation and they should give you something in return... thats how it usually works -_-; maybe tasteless and susie can work free for gom for the rest of their lives since they seem to dig the idea of donating ^_^
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On January 11 2009 19:28 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:23 Puosu wrote:On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_- finding a company that does not try to make a profit somehow is pretty hard.. not really there are plenty of non profit organisations, athough maybe company is a wrong description for them its basically the same... fact is they should call it an investment rather than caling it donation and they should give you something in return... thats how it usually works -_-; maybe tasteless and susie can work free for gom for the rest of their lives since they seem to dig the idea of donating ^_^ uh they're giving better quality stream in return?
streaming hi definition to everywhere in the world is costly as hell.
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On January 11 2009 19:23 Yaqoob wrote: After Bisu rapes skyhigh it will be a MSL semi-final/final rematch for Bisu again lol and having in mind bisu is a pvp rapist on this maps the outcome is so obvious
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On January 11 2009 19:26 Puosu wrote: I thought HD needed far more than 600, kind of strange.
I'm pretty sure they're just calling it "high-definition." Not because it meets any special HD standards, but because it'll be better quality than their standard stream.
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On January 11 2009 19:31 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:28 Kaolla wrote:On January 11 2009 19:23 Puosu wrote:On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_- finding a company that does not try to make a profit somehow is pretty hard.. not really there are plenty of non profit organisations, athough maybe company is a wrong description for them its basically the same... fact is they should call it an investment rather than caling it donation and they should give you something in return... thats how it usually works -_-; maybe tasteless and susie can work free for gom for the rest of their lives since they seem to dig the idea of donating ^_^ uh they're giving better quality stream in return? streaming hi definition to everywhere in the world is costly as hell.
its just costy and it's cost they should cover themselves... they will get more advertisement $ because more ppl would watch the stream worldwide and it will help spread their player which is also $ because of advertisement etc, so it should earn itself back. as said before the guys running this are businessmen not some kids wanting to do you a pleasure...
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On January 11 2009 19:19 amorpheus wrote: so long with Mind's "great" tvp
It's not about his TvP. It's about his general inability to produce consistent results. I was afraid his lost to Hwasin wasn't a coincidence...he is going from "I can beat anyone" to "I can lost to anyone" just again...
Still his fan though .
And poor BackHo...I usually didn't care about him, but nobody deserves such end in any league.
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On January 11 2009 20:39 MrHoon wrote:Man I remember when Mind was so badass, killing off Zergs on Bluestorm original and Tosses on Loki 2. Now it looks like he died off or something 
one hit wonder amrite
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On January 11 2009 19:24 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:22 VorcePA wrote:On January 11 2009 19:18 cz wrote:On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate? I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. 80% of ppl who want to watch it won't be able to because of the bandwidth required to do so. Bingo. =\ HD stream requires a 4mbit d/l speed. I have a 1 mbit d/l speed. =( It's only 600kpbs quality, so if you can watch OGN on Corinthos/VLC, you can watch this.
Corinthos stream lags for me.
On another note: lilsusie was saying you need a network speed of 500 kilobytes/sec (not kilobit). 500 kilobytes x 8 [bits] == 4 megabit connection. Were you using it tonight?
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On January 11 2009 18:23 cz wrote: Here's the Rommel deeper reference: Rommel was known as the Desert Fox, and Mind plays on WeMade FOX. ding ding
YES!! ^^ I'm so glad you got it. I tried to use Pretty and Free in that tagline as well.
On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_-
It's a donation because we don't want to have to charge you for higher quality casting. This is still in beta, we want to test it out to make sure that it will work later on when it's open to the general public.
On any website, they will have certain things available for free and to upgrade to something better, one must pay for it. So if you wish to donate, then do so. If you don't, then don't. But don't go slandering the reputation of a company that has brought you tournaments for free for over a year just because you feel that asking for a donation is shitty.
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On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_-
It's a donation because we don't want to have to charge you for higher quality casting. This is still in beta, we want to test it out to make sure that it will work later on when it's open to the general public.
On any website, they will have certain things available for free and to upgrade to something better, one must pay for it. So if you wish to donate, then do so. If you don't, then don't. But don't go slandering the reputation of a company that has brought you tournaments for free for over a year just because you feel that asking for a donation is shitty.
Seriously, GOM is trying to make their free service better and you're complaining about donations? Things like working on Hi-Def cost money...
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On January 11 2009 20:39 MrHoon wrote:Man I remember when Mind was so badass, killing off Zergs on Bluestorm original and Tosses on Loki 2. Now it looks like he died off or something 
I wonder how much could different team help him. I mean, there is basically nobody on FOX on same or similar level. Nada could be really good, but there is no top toss or zerg to train with. I know progamers train with pros from other teams too, but that's not the same...
It's no coincidence that the strongest (strongest based on their results in individual leagues) progamers tend to be from teams like SKT1, Khan or Lecaf, where is a lot more competetive atmosphere. Look what the constant beating from JD did with forGG. He is a total beast vs Z and even destroyed JD 3:0 in MSL final, I doubt he would be able to do this being on another team with less competent zergs. It's also interesting how his vP went awfully down after Anytime left Lecaf (even JD's vP has looked shaky recently).
Maybe even Flash recent not-so-top performances in starleagues are results of this. When he won in GOM and OSL, he was practicing extensively with Stork...I don't know what about now...
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On January 12 2009 00:10 adelarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 20:39 MrHoon wrote:Man I remember when Mind was so badass, killing off Zergs on Bluestorm original and Tosses on Loki 2. Now it looks like he died off or something  I wonder how much could different team help him. I mean, there is basically nobody on FOX on same or similar level. Nada could be really good, but there is no top toss or zerg to train with. I know progamers train with pros from other teams too, but that's not the same... It's no coincidence that the strongest (strongest based on their results in individual leagues) progamers tend to be from teams like SKT1, Khan or Lecaf, where is a lot more competetive atmosphere. Look what the constant beating from JD did with forGG. He is a total beast vs Z and even destroyed JD 3:0 in MSL final, I doubt he would be able to do this being on another team with less competent zergs. It's also interesting how his vP went awfully down after Anytime left Lecaf (even JD's vP has looked shaky recently). Maybe even Flash recent not-so-top performances in starleagues are results of this. When he won in GOM and OSL, he was practicing extensively with Stork...I don't know what about now...
I agree that a good team helps the players because of better training partners and also in confidence if the team is winning a lot. I think that flash can be pretty disappointed sometimes after multiple playdays of ktf losing 1-3 because he is the only one winning. But despite that i still think its mostly up to the players. FBH is very good against terran and zerg but sucks against protoss despite the fact that he has jangbi and stork, arguably the best pvt players, to train with. KTF also has mostly zerg players behind Flash and his tvz still seams to be his weakest matchup. His tvt is almost 70% while the other terrans on his team are significantly weaker.
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On January 11 2009 19:24 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:22 VorcePA wrote:On January 11 2009 19:18 cz wrote:On January 11 2009 19:17 GTR-2-Go wrote:On January 11 2009 19:16 Tekin wrote: Whos actually gonna donate? I'll bet that someone will eventually leak the HQ stream. 80% of ppl who want to watch it won't be able to because of the bandwidth required to do so. Bingo. =\ HD stream requires a 4mbit d/l speed. I have a 1 mbit d/l speed. =( It's only 600kpbs quality, so if you can watch OGN on Corinthos/VLC, you can watch this.
Well, depends on the connectivity. You see, I for example did some random internet speed test on a european server and it showed 2200kbps like it should. Immediately after that, I tried the GOM speedmeter and duh, it showed 53kb/s. Thoughts? No need really, the normal stream is good enough for me, I just wish someone could invent a better internet
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On January 11 2009 19:22 Kaolla wrote: seriously if you donate to a company trying to make a profit from it (as tasteless and susie also said gom wants to get their player spread all over the world with this and not only limit it to progaming) i think thats rather foolish -_- i think its rather dirty of GOM too to do it this way... -1 reputation -_-
It's a donation because we don't want to have to charge you for higher quality casting. This is still in beta, we want to test it out to make sure that it will work later on when it's open to the general public.
On any website, they will have certain things available for free and to upgrade to something better, one must pay for it. So if you wish to donate, then do so. If you don't, then don't. But don't go slandering the reputation of a company that has brought you tournaments for free for over a year just because you feel that asking for a donation is shitty.[/QUOTE]
Well looking from GOM's perspective however getting this done through donations is alot better since they can advertise with a HQ stream and give potential viewers a nicer stream as to where a HQ stream that needs a subscription will not likely attract new people. It's just weird how the GOM spends so much money on prize money and staff and equipment/studio and then cannot afford some streaming... Now I know TL has got some 'rich' ppl, but the majority is just normal and it's rather sad to see them pay for something GOM should be paying for and GOM will have advantage of as well. If it was something that GOM had absolutely no advantage of I could see the need of donations, or if there would be no commercials on this stream, but im afraid that is not the case and thus I see this as quite a bad move. They they bring this stream for free is not really something they do out of charity or love for the fans, it's something they do because of exposure and because they think it will make them money on the long run. Anyway enough drama i guess, I felt like expressing my opinion since this isnt the first time things are presented as "for the community" while in reality i doubt they really are -_-;
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On January 12 2009 01:52 Kaolla wrote: Well looking from GOM's perspective however getting this done through donations is alot better since they can advertise with a HQ stream and give potential viewers a nicer stream as to where a HQ stream that needs a subscription will not likely attract new people. It's just weird how the GOM spends so much money on prize money and staff and equipment/studio and then cannot afford some streaming... Now I know TL has got some 'rich' ppl, but the majority is just normal and it's rather sad to see them pay for something GOM should be paying for and GOM will have advantage of as well. If it was something that GOM had absolutely no advantage of I could see the need of donations, or if there would be no commercials on this stream, but im afraid that is not the case and thus I see this as quite a bad move. They they bring this stream for free is not really something they do out of charity or love for the fans, it's something they do because of exposure and because they think it will make them money on the long run. Anyway enough drama i guess, I felt like expressing my opinion since this isnt the first time things are presented as "for the community" while in reality i doubt they really are -_-; It's 1 dollar dude...
Just don't pay if you have such a problem, the regular stream quality is pretty good anyway.
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I think the problem with their network check is the fact that the data needs to be transferred from really far away for those living in north america. I can watch live on Corinthos stream, on daums sports etc.. but i only got around 100kbps on the check.
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On January 12 2009 01:57 lgdDante wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 01:52 Kaolla wrote: Well looking from GOM's perspective however getting this done through donations is alot better since they can advertise with a HQ stream and give potential viewers a nicer stream as to where a HQ stream that needs a subscription will not likely attract new people. It's just weird how the GOM spends so much money on prize money and staff and equipment/studio and then cannot afford some streaming... Now I know TL has got some 'rich' ppl, but the majority is just normal and it's rather sad to see them pay for something GOM should be paying for and GOM will have advantage of as well. If it was something that GOM had absolutely no advantage of I could see the need of donations, or if there would be no commercials on this stream, but im afraid that is not the case and thus I see this as quite a bad move. They they bring this stream for free is not really something they do out of charity or love for the fans, it's something they do because of exposure and because they think it will make them money on the long run. Anyway enough drama i guess, I felt like expressing my opinion since this isnt the first time things are presented as "for the community" while in reality i doubt they really are -_-; It's 1 dollar dude... Just don't pay if you have such a problem, the regular stream quality is pretty good anyway.
You should actually read what im saying, it's their core business or close to it and they want their viewers to finance it, it's just rather weird... I agree the regular stream is good, I like watching GOM ocasionally and I think it's a good initiative I just think it's rather weird they are asking for donations... I don't care if its 10 cents or 1 dollar (which is the minimum, not a standard as i understood) or 50 dollar, just the fact that they are asking for it is rather weird... -_-
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I don't know if it is worse that Jangbi advanced for free or that Mind lost...
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On January 12 2009 03:11 Fontong wrote: I don't know if it is worse that Jangbi advanced for free or that Mind lost to free... I know. I am bored.
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On January 11 2009 19:10 disciple wrote: mind is a joke, he always was. the new age sync
You mean Mind, who stopped a top-form Bisu dead in his tracks?
He's not at his peak right now, but he's no Sync.
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Angry terran lost  Bisu, JangBi, Free deja vu :-\
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...poor Backho. hope you get better
....Anyway..Jangbi, Free and Bisu in the ro4...wow... Im sensing another PvP finals.. TTwTT
anywhooo what happened to Mind? he was uncharacteristically sloppy today
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Ugh, very good change its going to be a bisu vs jangbi rematch final T_T
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Man I just watched the games and I feel so bad for Mind. His defense in the first game was flawless. Seriously it was so good. It's so weird and great that someone can feel so excited from nothing happening. But then...??? That push being stomped on. It almost feels like Free was fucking around on purpose, waits for the last minute then just bitch-slaps Mind.
Coming from that first game, I could tell Mind was just not playing the same way he did the first game. Backho used his arbiters very effectively and just steam rolled him from there.
And fuck you guys who say oh it's Bisu, Jangbi, Free again blah blah blah, Skyhigh is still alive.
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On January 12 2009 05:57 Titusmaster6 wrote: Coming from that first game, I could tell Mind was just not playing the same way he did the first game. Backho used his arbiters very effectively and just steam rolled him from there.
using Mind control?
(his arms aint working atm?)
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Yeah, I'm not just gonna assume Bisu>SkyHigh, SkyHigh's been playing great and could easily pull out another upset.
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flash would not have lost those games mind did.
he was ahead...yet lost...
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On January 12 2009 02:28 Kaolla wrote: You should actually read what im saying, it's their core business or close to it and they want their viewers to finance it, it's just rather weird... I agree the regular stream is good, I like watching GOM ocasionally and I think it's a good initiative I just think it's rather weird they are asking for donations... I don't care if its 10 cents or 1 dollar (which is the minimum, not a standard as i understood) or 50 dollar, just the fact that they are asking for it is rather weird... -_-
You're a freeloader who's a whiner. If you don't like the OPTIONAL donation request, then simply do not donate. Don't try to turn this around onto GOM.
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On January 12 2009 03:38 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 19:10 disciple wrote: mind is a joke, he always was. the new age sync You mean Mind, who stopped a top-form Bisu dead in his tracks? He's not at his peak right now, but he's no Sync.
disciple is just Bisu fan(boy) and still cannot get over that MSL final
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On January 12 2009 10:37 vnlegend wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 02:28 Kaolla wrote: You should actually read what im saying, it's their core business or close to it and they want their viewers to finance it, it's just rather weird... I agree the regular stream is good, I like watching GOM ocasionally and I think it's a good initiative I just think it's rather weird they are asking for donations... I don't care if its 10 cents or 1 dollar (which is the minimum, not a standard as i understood) or 50 dollar, just the fact that they are asking for it is rather weird... -_-
You're a freeloader who's a whiner. If you don't like the OPTIONAL donation request, then simply do not donate. Don't try to turn this around onto GOM. Thanks for saying what I wanted to say... people who put down asking for DONATIONS are flat-out ignorant.
I hope BackHo gets well soon. Sucks to have to forfeit after getting so far
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Noooooooo why did Free win?!!! There goes my hopes of having a percent over 50 for Liquibet : /
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Disappointing series .
Game 1, Mind attacked too late. Game 2, Mind was too early. I expected better from Mind. Game 1 on Medusa, it was Mind's game to lose rather than Free's game to win. Mind was so far ahead by the time he had his 4th base. Mind was also ahead a little bit in game 2 when he stopped Free's DT attack. It delayed Free's 3rd base for so long. The fast stasis caught Mind off guard and it was GG from there.
Now that Mind is out, expect a PvP finalzzz.
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On January 12 2009 02:28 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 01:57 lgdDante wrote:On January 12 2009 01:52 Kaolla wrote: Well looking from GOM's perspective however getting this done through donations is alot better since they can advertise with a HQ stream and give potential viewers a nicer stream as to where a HQ stream that needs a subscription will not likely attract new people. It's just weird how the GOM spends so much money on prize money and staff and equipment/studio and then cannot afford some streaming... Now I know TL has got some 'rich' ppl, but the majority is just normal and it's rather sad to see them pay for something GOM should be paying for and GOM will have advantage of as well. If it was something that GOM had absolutely no advantage of I could see the need of donations, or if there would be no commercials on this stream, but im afraid that is not the case and thus I see this as quite a bad move. They they bring this stream for free is not really something they do out of charity or love for the fans, it's something they do because of exposure and because they think it will make them money on the long run. Anyway enough drama i guess, I felt like expressing my opinion since this isnt the first time things are presented as "for the community" while in reality i doubt they really are -_-; It's 1 dollar dude... Just don't pay if you have such a problem, the regular stream quality is pretty good anyway. You should actually read what im saying, it's their core business or close to it and they want their viewers to finance it, it's just rather weird... I agree the regular stream is good, I like watching GOM ocasionally and I think it's a good initiative I just think it's rather weird they are asking for donations... I don't care if its 10 cents or 1 dollar (which is the minimum, not a standard as i understood) or 50 dollar, just the fact that they are asking for it is rather weird... -_- I know it's weird they are asking for donations. It's basically just a small charge to get in on the early testing of a new stream from them.
I honestly have no idea why they are calling it a donation, if they just asked for $1 to use a HQ feed for the next 3 weeks no one would complaining.
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On January 12 2009 17:17 lgdDante wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 02:28 Kaolla wrote:On January 12 2009 01:57 lgdDante wrote:On January 12 2009 01:52 Kaolla wrote: Well looking from GOM's perspective however getting this done through donations is alot better since they can advertise with a HQ stream and give potential viewers a nicer stream as to where a HQ stream that needs a subscription will not likely attract new people. It's just weird how the GOM spends so much money on prize money and staff and equipment/studio and then cannot afford some streaming... Now I know TL has got some 'rich' ppl, but the majority is just normal and it's rather sad to see them pay for something GOM should be paying for and GOM will have advantage of as well. If it was something that GOM had absolutely no advantage of I could see the need of donations, or if there would be no commercials on this stream, but im afraid that is not the case and thus I see this as quite a bad move. They they bring this stream for free is not really something they do out of charity or love for the fans, it's something they do because of exposure and because they think it will make them money on the long run. Anyway enough drama i guess, I felt like expressing my opinion since this isnt the first time things are presented as "for the community" while in reality i doubt they really are -_-; It's 1 dollar dude... Just don't pay if you have such a problem, the regular stream quality is pretty good anyway. You should actually read what im saying, it's their core business or close to it and they want their viewers to finance it, it's just rather weird... I agree the regular stream is good, I like watching GOM ocasionally and I think it's a good initiative I just think it's rather weird they are asking for donations... I don't care if its 10 cents or 1 dollar (which is the minimum, not a standard as i understood) or 50 dollar, just the fact that they are asking for it is rather weird... -_- I know it's weird they are asking for donations. It's basically just a small charge to get in on the early testing of a new stream from them. I honestly have no idea why they are calling it a donation, if they just asked for $1 to use a HQ feed for the next 3 weeks no one would complaining.
It sounded like it was just the way it was translated, the guy who did it didn't realize the difference between donation and payment. It's not half as big a deal as anyone is making it out to be in my opinion.
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Evevn though I'm a protoss fan, I really wanted Mind to win here. I was really disappointed to be honest. I haven't seen a bit of that ruthless Mind that pulled those splendid timed pushes to Bisu.
He just didn't know how to take advantage of Free's sloppy play. Especially after EMP-ing all his arbiters in game 1.
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On January 12 2009 10:37 vnlegend wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 02:28 Kaolla wrote: You should actually read what im saying, it's their core business or close to it and they want their viewers to finance it, it's just rather weird... I agree the regular stream is good, I like watching GOM ocasionally and I think it's a good initiative I just think it's rather weird they are asking for donations... I don't care if its 10 cents or 1 dollar (which is the minimum, not a standard as i understood) or 50 dollar, just the fact that they are asking for it is rather weird... -_-
You're a freeloader who's a whiner. If you don't like the OPTIONAL donation request, then simply do not donate. Don't try to turn this around onto GOM.
why freeloader? I might consider paying for a HQ stream on subscription base, but donating never it's just weird but as has been said by other ppl maybe it was just misformulated... Turn what around?? I think you really should go back to school (or maybe brain surgery) as you completely missed the point -_- or maybe you are just too young, in that case i guess you are lucky >.< old men die first -_-
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