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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 31 2008 05:04 GMT
#261
On July 31 2008 13:58 HaXxorIzed wrote:
With 'Savior Fans' such as the above, he doesn't need enemies. That people who have been supporting Ra/Reach/Yellow can unconditionally love their players despite all the difficulties they had only to see you guys rip and tear into Savior in his first two appearances since returning to A team is indicative of a lot.

Doing any sort of return from B team is going to be hard, I daresay a lot of people are being far too harsh here.
It's indicative that Savior declined massively, in a quick time, not due to a lack of skill or understanding of a changing game, but because of morale. Reach, yellow, all the others, declined slowly over a course of years. They have remained-bad- for years. Savior has comparatively just declined, is an extremely modern player, and has every god damn capacity to trample someone like Free. But he doesn't. Because hes depressed, lacks motivation, confidence, I don't know. What I do know is that him losing doesn't make me sad because hes 'lost it', in five years maybe. It makes me pissed off because I KNOW Savior is better than this.

Do not question my support of Savior. It is simply tough love.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
July 31 2008 05:04 GMT
#262
On July 31 2008 14:02 Leunal wrote:
Hwasin vs fOrGG
fOrGG changed his name to Never I think o_O
1st game on Andromeda
Hwasin on bottom left
fOrGG topright


ForGG was known as Never_v_ before he was known as ForGG I think.
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:05 GMT
#263
He's been Never_V_ for quite a while now.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-31 05:07:42
July 31 2008 05:06 GMT
#264
The majority of modern players decline and fall quickly, this is merely a reflection of the highly competitive nature of the game these days. More than a few people overlook this when they take a snipe at Savior - as well as completely overhyping what a return from B to A team means when you consider how inconsistent CJ's 'A Team' was in this proleague season.

Losing to Free and Pusan in the finals of his qualifier group 2:1 isn't particularly bad or good. It's just average - which is a step above what Savior would be playing if he was honestly lacking enough to be in the B team.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:08 GMT
#265
I wish he woulda went LWL rather than WLL both times. Thats all. Its just that this is indicative that he is still declining rather than improving at all.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Leunal
Profile Joined February 2008
United States127 Posts
July 31 2008 05:09 GMT
#266
It's just one bo3.
I'd give him more time to prove himself.
oh dee
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-31 05:10:54
July 31 2008 05:09 GMT
#267
On July 31 2008 14:06 HaXxorIzed wrote:
The majority of modern players decline and fall quickly, this is merely a reflection of the highly competitive nature of the game these days. More than a few people overlook this when they take a snipe at Savior - as well as completely overhyping what a return from B to A team means when you consider how inconsistent CJ's 'A Team' was in this proleague season.

Losing to Free and Pusan in the finals of his qualifier group 2:1 isn't particularly bad or good. It's just average - which is a step above what Savior would be playing if he was honestly lacking enough to be in the B team.
Yes, and the modern times have just arrived. It is a relatively new occurrence to see someone reach the top in 3 months, and within a month lose it. How many other Bonjwas declined as fast and definitively as Savior? Most of us are use to a gradual decline, and even once a slump has hit, the ability to show fire once and again and push forward. We aren't taking snipes at Savior, we are screaming in frustration because he was so good only a few seasons ago.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-31 05:15:26
July 31 2008 05:15 GMT
#268
Anyone watch the sea games? Carrier FEST and oober micro
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
July 31 2008 05:16 GMT
#269
On July 31 2008 14:15 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Anyone watch the sea games? Carrier FEST and oober micro


Yeah, and dramatic ending!
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Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:17 GMT
#270
Stream really bad at the moment for anyone else?
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
July 31 2008 05:18 GMT
#271
Looks like hwasin forgot armories and is getting massacred by wraiths now.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
July 31 2008 05:18 GMT
#272
5 surprise wraiths from forGG have caught hwasin completely off guard :/
Trust in Bayes.
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:19 GMT
#273
ForGG seems firmly ahead now
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 31 2008 05:19 GMT
#274
Damn, completely missed where all of Hwasin's forces suddenly died.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
July 31 2008 05:20 GMT
#275
Stream dies, but it looks like forGG found hwasin's hidden 11-o-clock expansion and is tearing it down.
Trust in Bayes.
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:20 GMT
#276
Sooo hwasin switches to pumping only wraiths, don't see how he could support on 2 gas though.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:21 GMT
#277
Hwasin GGs as ForGG has valks
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
July 31 2008 05:21 GMT
#278
hwasin ggs
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 31 2008 05:24 GMT
#279
I dont know who I want to win. On one hand I like Hwasin better. On the other hand, I desperately want a bonjwa who can rape everyone for a year. Forgg cant be that bonjwa with a weak tvt. So....

go...SOMEONE!
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
July 31 2008 05:25 GMT
#280
Why do people want 1 person to win all the time?
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
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