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OGN 3 vs 1 CJ
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Luxury > Memory
Flower/Zeus > EffOrt/Nbs[gm]
Leta > sAviOr
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Luxury > Memory
Flower/Zeus > EffOrt/Nbs[gm]
Leta > sAviOr
[Shinhan PL] OGN vs CJ
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IntoTheWow
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
DDR~ | ||
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DrywMz
United States394 Posts
 Memory -.- Suppose it's sacrifice to Luxury anyway | ||
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InfeSteD
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
On May 25 2008 14:08 DrywMz wrote: Don't they have someone better to use than Memory -.- Suppose it's sacrifice to Luxury anywayLux isn't exactly playing well these days, so Memory winning isn't that really a longshot. | ||
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Puosu
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oh awesome opening pic too!  | ||
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Puosu
6994 Posts
On May 25 2008 14:08 DrywMz wrote: Don't they have someone better to use than Memory -.- Suppose it's sacrifice to Luxury anywayWell if they wanted a terran there I guess they could have sent DorkElf, but they're most likely saving him for closer match so they don't really have any other good terrans left, unless I'm missing someone? edit: Ji Hoon doing something sexy there! | ||
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
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Last Romantic
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
his opponent scans it and surrenders. Fuckyeah Seo Jihoon~ | ||
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Last Romantic
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Seku
United States313 Posts
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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MyStiC_Chaos
United States499 Posts
 Luxury, beat Memory.I want to see the Maestro at least beat some random. | ||
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Wizard
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
But the real important news is, SAVIOR IS PLAYING TONITE. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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Ancestral
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Last Romantic
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Wizard
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On May 25 2008 15:19 Wizard wrote: I can't watch the stream, so when sAviOr comes on someone please give detailed report. Okie! what happened to your stream? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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Cowcow
Canada6 Posts
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Ancestral
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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soudo
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
Ma Jae Yoon Fighting!!! | ||
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Cowcow
Canada6 Posts
On May 25 2008 15:39 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: I can't believe we are talking about pressure being on Savior in a PL match, etc... when he was hittler in all PL/MSL/OSL/Superfight, etc not too long ago T_T Ma Jae Yoon Fighting!!! Pressure is a light breeze for savior nowadays.. | ||
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On May 25 2008 15:39 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: I can't believe we are talking about pressure being on Savior in a PL match, etc... when he was hittler in all PL/MSL/OSL/Superfight, etc not too long ago T_T Ma Jae Yoon Fighting!!! Now you know how I felt when they were talking about YellOw slumping in Shinhan 2 OSL when he was one of the favorites in the previous StarLeague. People fall fast in progaming ;; | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
*aaaaaahh GG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* | ||
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Cowcow
Canada6 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
let me know if u need it... game just started! Ma Jae yoon fightiiiing! | ||
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soudo
603 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
... seems like he almost forgot to actually put down the hatchery for a sec >.> | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On May 25 2008 15:52 ray1234 wrote: arrrg i been kicked off daum and now its full Join the club buddy. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
While Terran goes FE, blocking his Nat with 2 supplies and 1 rax. Savior puts down his 3rd Hatch at min only inside his base while harassing Rax with a drone | ||
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soudo
603 Posts
On May 25 2008 15:51 Ancestral wrote: Well he's not four pooling. That might not work out in his favor. Hahahaha...so true. | ||
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paavst
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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InfeSteD
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Leta puts down 2 more Raxes+Fac and is coming out with mnm force forcing Ma jae to sunken up | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
+1 weapon just finished while Saviors mutas come out | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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InfeSteD
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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ray1234
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InfeSteD
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 25 2008 15:59 ray1234 wrote: savior didn't die to sunk break! yay! Well, that's pretty good considering! | ||
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InfeSteD
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MeriaDoKk
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
Now Savior puts down a Hydralisk Den :O :O :O :O while Leta has 9 raxes and still looking pretty strong | ||
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DrywMz
United States394 Posts
On May 25 2008 16:00 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: Things not looking good at all for Ma jae! Jae Yoon would be the name, Ma is the last name. Sorry to sound anal, just a pet peeve I suppose :s | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
While Savior builds out of 2 gas base some hydralisks for Lurks | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On May 25 2008 16:03 DrywMz wrote: Jae Yoon would be the name, Ma is the last name. Sorry to sound anal, just a pet peeve I suppose :s I know everyone tells me that... but I love the sound of Ma Jae lol.. sounds sexy in english fixed | ||
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InfeSteD
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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InfeSteD
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MeriaDoKk
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InfeSteD
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Expos being denied + critical buildings were killed with drop | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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InfeSteD
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Juicyfruit
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Chameleon
United States604 Posts
hydras are getting iradiated, poor savior | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
but he could not keep up with that macro at all. it was stupid how few lurkers he had at any point compared to the 10+ rax constant pump of marines that Leta had | ||
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paavst
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
nobody expected this, totally a suprise to us all. whats happening to the CJ we all knew and loved | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
GG He was losing Hydras like he didnt give a fuck about winning, because he knows females and people in tl.net still love him and will still get laid even if he slumps badly to become another I better not say to not get banned from LR xD | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
The problem is that his macro was disgustingly bad.... | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
You should have let NaDa have his 4th OSL badge. Fuck you Savior! You fucking piece of shit On May 25 2008 16:12 ray1234 wrote: he doesnt even look like he wants to play 2nd'ed | ||
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IntoTheWow
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
You greedy bastard... | ||
Sigrun
United States1655 Posts
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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Aus)MaCrO
Australia349 Posts
Ma Jae Yoon needs time off, maybe even a whole season off to get his head together and figure out whether he still wants to play. Right now all he is doing is killing his reputation. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Cowcow
Canada6 Posts
Fuck that was depressing.. | ||
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eX-Corgh
Russian Federation386 Posts
But Savior should either start practicing, or retire. Unless he wants to be owned over and over again. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On May 25 2008 16:16 Tinithor wrote: Savior.... my god..... its over.... its truely over. When you lose to B-team terrans in proleague.... You greedy bastard... Leta is not B team. | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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Juicyfruit
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Tinithor
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
Actually, I feel worse for those of us that have to watch him slump to nothing... | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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Quesadilla
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
Savior fuck you and your fucking slump. Fuck fuck fuck | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On May 25 2008 16:13 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: Savior you look like a complete fagget! this is the last time I cheer for you, I dont believe anymore. Your games are boring as fuck... You should have let NaDa have his 4th OSL badge. Fuck you Savior! You fucking piece of shit wtf, chill out | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On May 25 2008 17:27 raga4ka wrote: WTF are you so depressed about , zerg hasn't beaten a terran since like July beat Mind , ZvT is harder then TvZ don't know way maybe it is because of the maps Luxury vs Memory | ||
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crazie-penguin
United States1253 Posts
Perhaps one day you will rise again or reincarnate. Until then...good bye | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
I told them GoRush was king, they never listened. ~_~ | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
I am, I just had to get that out of me. Because since started slumping (about a year ago) I have been watching every single one of his games and I have been cheering and actually believing over and over again. But this time I'm done with him, he looks like he dont even want to play the game, it's just his attitude and its shown on his game too. Fuck savior! xD | ||
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
Yeah yeah, Luxury bashed on Memory, but I really think he is on to something. The macro of terrans today combined with extremely practiced counters to muta harass on every map (plus much better vessel control) is making it stupidly hard for zergs to win lately in the pros imo. For example, in the last 20 televised korean pro TvZ's 5 were won by Zerg (Over Memory twice, UpMagic, Light and Fantasy, nobody top tier) 15 were won by Terran (Over Calm, GGPlay, Yarnc, Jaedong, maGma, Luxury, 815, sAviOr, and ZerO, that list contains the best zergs in the world) | ||
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Frits
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Looking forward to Jaedong < Katrina SE > RuBy, expecting to see some HARSH ownage from Jaedong. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On May 26 2008 02:47 Frits wrote: (Sooooo lame how the osl has 4 zergs in one group by the way.) The fact it's even possible is completely and totally retarded. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
he'll come back one day . . . | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Flash needs some lessons from the DDR Terran ^_^ | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On May 26 2008 01:52 Atrioc wrote: You realize there are like, no top zergs you just listed? GGplay lost to sea, and hasn't been doing hardcore well in a long time. Jaedong has recently entered a slump, before that he was doing fine. 815 played like a jackass, thats why he lost, magma lost to flash and it was incredibly close, and yarnc lost to flash and it was close. They aren't losing because out of NO WHERE zvt became impossible, they are losing becauseYeah yeah, Luxury bashed on Memory, but I really think he is on to something. The macro of terrans today combined with extremely practiced counters to muta harass on every map (plus much better vessel control) is making it stupidly hard for zergs to win lately in the pros imo. For example, in the last 20 televised korean pro TvZ's 5 were won by Zerg (Over Memory twice, UpMagic, Light and Fantasy, nobody top tier) 15 were won by Terran (Over Calm, GGPlay, Yarnc, Jaedong, maGma, Luxury, 815, sAviOr, and ZerO, that list contains the best zergs in the world) 1) There are no top zergs at the moment 2) Flash rapes everyone in sight 3) There are no top zergs at the moment We need someone with the drive to win, he will inspire zergs and figure out some nuances that will make the game easier and pull the zergs through the starleagues. Luxury might of been the replacement for Jaedong, but hes playing like ass-sadly. The closest to him is 815 and Hyun, which aren't going to be bonjwas anytime soon. Its unfortunate but its true. The Zerg skill base has aged, the play has reached stagnation, and they are all out of gas. We need a zerg revolutionist | ||
LosingID8
CA10829 Posts
On May 26 2008 02:47 Frits wrote: Yeah honestly I'm starting to worry about the current state of TvZ a little it's been too long till a zerg wooped some A-terran's ass hard. (Sooooo lame how the osl has 4 zergs in one group by the way.) Looking forward to Jaedong < Katrina SE > RuBy, expecting to see some HARSH ownage from Jaedong. before flash zerg won 3 OSLs in a row -_-; it hasn't been that long since zerg has been owning it up | ||
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
It shouldnt take a bonjwa with an enormous skill difference to win a game of ZvT. When sAviOr was in his prime he wasnt the only zerg winning, when Jaedong was kicking ass so was Luxury and others. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On May 26 2008 06:10 LosingID8 wrote: before flash zerg won 3 OSLs in a row -_-; it hasn't been that long since zerg has been owning it up Yeah you're right it's just that at this moment zerg looks so powerless, but when you look at the long run it's all balanced. The balance always seems to be shifting. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On May 26 2008 06:14 Atrioc wrote: Thats just the way the zerg race is. Read the FE article, there can only be one zerg king. Why? Because the way Zerg play is devised, its utterly unstoppable when you have someone who is playing it with flare, with a drive. When it is played just by a common no body its not as strong. Again, its the way the race was made. Utterly destructive but incredibly fragile, one wrong move and its all gone. It requires finesse and genuis to handle. Not necessarily a bonjwa, but someone who has drive- at the moment no zerg does. Uhh the thing is the terrans who are winning 75% of the matchup and all important matches arent anything special either. They arent revolutionists with amazing play. These are the leigion of standard macro-heavy terrans that even the best zergs in the world cant handle. It shouldnt take a bonjwa with an enormous skill difference to win a game of ZvT. When sAviOr was in his prime he wasnt the only zerg winning, when Jaedong was kicking ass so was Luxury and others. | ||
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
cuz he doesn't | ||
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
Even when savior was in his prime alot of his wins over terran were epic 3-2 | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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iloveHieu
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clazziquai
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
On May 26 2008 09:31 Highways wrote: The reason why t>>z currently is because terran can fe pump scvs from both, and zerg still struggles very very hard to secure a third gas. Even when savior was in his prime alot of his wins over terran were epic 3-2 only two of his wins over terran were epic 3-2's (hwasin, iris). he raped nada over and over. he raped oov over and over. he had a 3-2 win over midas, but the last game was no where near close. savior also dealt with some really difficult zvt maps. he didnt struggle with terrans on the more balanced maps. | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
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