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lake
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada150 Posts
January 24 2008 01:44 GMT
#621
On January 24 2008 10:41 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 10:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
okay like i said i had it in my head that overtime = next goal wins, because thats how every sport i watch works

in that case you can't score 3 goals in overtime, but apparently in soccer its just a block of extra time, which makes 3 goals possible


Just out of curiousity, which sports are those?

hockey, nfl, maybe cfl but who watches that
what
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
January 24 2008 01:49 GMT
#622
On January 24 2008 10:44 lake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 10:41 s4life wrote:
On January 24 2008 10:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
okay like i said i had it in my head that overtime = next goal wins, because thats how every sport i watch works

in that case you can't score 3 goals in overtime, but apparently in soccer its just a block of extra time, which makes 3 goals possible


Just out of curiousity, which sports are those?

hockey, nfl, maybe cfl but who watches that

not canadians thats fo' sho
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 24 2008 02:40 GMT
#623
On January 24 2008 10:41 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 10:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
okay like i said i had it in my head that overtime = next goal wins, because thats how every sport i watch works

in that case you can't score 3 goals in overtime, but apparently in soccer its just a block of extra time, which makes 3 goals possible


Just out of curiousity, which sports are those?


again, like i said, i watch a lot of hockey
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 24 2008 03:16 GMT
#624
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
January 24 2008 03:53 GMT
#625
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?

You really can't think of a reason why? Why do you want to know the reasoning on an incorrect bet anyway? What are you saying?????????????????????????????????
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 24 2008 04:03 GMT
#626
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-24 04:28:09
January 24 2008 04:27 GMT
#627
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that
OMG you nasty gurl
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 24 2008 04:38 GMT
#628
On January 24 2008 13:27 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that


its ONE LOSS

and July isn't "the counter to Bisu's build"
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 24 2008 04:39 GMT
#629
i mean yes theres another loss now but i'm talking about before the game happened when people were filling out their liquibet
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 24 2008 04:46 GMT
#630
On January 24 2008 13:27 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that


In the words of Hot_Bid;

There's no fucking counter to Bisu, you just have to play better than him.

Maybe July played better than him this game, maybe Bisu has a fucking cold/headache/gingivitis/AIDS/whatever. The point is, you can't just counter him with a playstyle, you have to out macro him, out micro him, and out multitask. Yes, Beesuit is weak early game, but he's survived many attempted early game aggressive attacks, proving that it's not the style that wins games.

I hate fanboys, I only tolerate the sAviOr variety.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
January 24 2008 04:47 GMT
#631
On January 24 2008 13:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 13:27 Kuja900 wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that


In the words of Hot_Bid;

There's no fucking counter to Bisu, you just have to play better than him.

Maybe July played better than him this game, maybe Bisu has a fucking cold/headache/gingivitis/AIDS/whatever. The point is, you can't just counter him with a playstyle, you have to out macro him, out micro him, and out multitask. Yes, Beesuit is weak early game, but he's survived many attempted early game aggressive attacks, proving that it's not the style that wins games.

I hate fanboys, I only tolerate the sAviOr variety.


there is a counter to every build, there is absolutely no reason that an early game hydra timing push cant be a bisu counter. you talk of fanboyism but blindly believing bisu's build is uncounterable is just foolish and hypocritical
OMG you nasty gurl
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 24 2008 05:05 GMT
#632
On January 24 2008 13:47 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 13:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:27 Kuja900 wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that


In the words of Hot_Bid;

There's no fucking counter to Bisu, you just have to play better than him.

Maybe July played better than him this game, maybe Bisu has a fucking cold/headache/gingivitis/AIDS/whatever. The point is, you can't just counter him with a playstyle, you have to out macro him, out micro him, and out multitask. Yes, Beesuit is weak early game, but he's survived many attempted early game aggressive attacks, proving that it's not the style that wins games.

I hate fanboys, I only tolerate the sAviOr variety.


there is a counter to every build, there is absolutely no reason that an early game hydra timing push cant be a bisu counter. you talk of fanboyism but blindly believing bisu's build is uncounterable is just foolish and hypocritical


an early hydra build can be stopped and has been stopped by bisu many many times

yes it is possible for bisu to lose to 3hatch or 4hatch hydra but it is by no means a hard counter for his build
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7231 Posts
January 24 2008 05:07 GMT
#633
You don't have to outmicro/macro or outplay Bisu to steal wins with hydra breaks or ling all-ins. That's a vulnerability built into fast expo that no protoss can overcome without measures (more and earlier cannons, later tech) that put them at a big disadvantage to eco heavy builds.
日本語が分かりますか
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
January 24 2008 05:23 GMT
#634
On January 24 2008 14:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 13:47 Kuja900 wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:27 Kuja900 wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that


In the words of Hot_Bid;

There's no fucking counter to Bisu, you just have to play better than him.

Maybe July played better than him this game, maybe Bisu has a fucking cold/headache/gingivitis/AIDS/whatever. The point is, you can't just counter him with a playstyle, you have to out macro him, out micro him, and out multitask. Yes, Beesuit is weak early game, but he's survived many attempted early game aggressive attacks, proving that it's not the style that wins games.

I hate fanboys, I only tolerate the sAviOr variety.


there is a counter to every build, there is absolutely no reason that an early game hydra timing push cant be a bisu counter. you talk of fanboyism but blindly believing bisu's build is uncounterable is just foolish and hypocritical


an early hydra build can be stopped and has been stopped by bisu many many times

yes it is possible for bisu to lose to 3hatch or 4hatch hydra but it is by no means a hard counter for his build


yeah i know i was just using it as an example of a possible bisu build counter
OMG you nasty gurl
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 24 2008 05:28 GMT
#635
On January 24 2008 14:23 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 14:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:47 Kuja900 wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:27 Kuja900 wrote:
On January 24 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 24 2008 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 24 2008 09:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The ONE FUCKING TIME I FUCKING VOTE FOR BISU IN MY ENTIRE LIQUIBET CAREER HE LOSES
WHAT THE FUCK 3/4
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN


Why would you bet on Bisu against July?


PvZ: 32-15 (68.09%) with multiple wins against upper tier zergs such as sAviOr.

Hmmm, I can't imagine. Must have been a misclick.


i cant imagine either seeeing how july is not in one of those wins however is in one of those losses now for bisu oh wait sorry 2 losses now, julys aggressive play is the counter to the beesuit build zergs sitn back waitn for mass econ are the ones who get owned like savior, for some reason next to that one game on blue storm he cant adapt everyone else has 3 z losses in row proves that


In the words of Hot_Bid;

There's no fucking counter to Bisu, you just have to play better than him.

Maybe July played better than him this game, maybe Bisu has a fucking cold/headache/gingivitis/AIDS/whatever. The point is, you can't just counter him with a playstyle, you have to out macro him, out micro him, and out multitask. Yes, Beesuit is weak early game, but he's survived many attempted early game aggressive attacks, proving that it's not the style that wins games.

I hate fanboys, I only tolerate the sAviOr variety.


there is a counter to every build, there is absolutely no reason that an early game hydra timing push cant be a bisu counter. you talk of fanboyism but blindly believing bisu's build is uncounterable is just foolish and hypocritical


an early hydra build can be stopped and has been stopped by bisu many many times

yes it is possible for bisu to lose to 3hatch or 4hatch hydra but it is by no means a hard counter for his build


yeah i know i was just using it as an example of a possible bisu build counter



I'm not talking about a counter to his build, and I'm sorry if it came off as such. I'm talking about countering Kim Taek Yong, and it's not as easy as "an aggressiv style pwnzorzzz him".
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-24 05:39:05
January 24 2008 05:38 GMT
#636
I think Hot Bid put it best. Bisu plays his games with an eye to dominating on his skill. The occasional Hydra break or loss of critical units (ie, the reavers + shuttle vs yellow[arnc]) or all in hydra plays (ie, Julyzerg yesterday) may win a few games, but it's rare he loses straight up.

That said, given only Jaedong has wins over him in straight up play and the fact he's been nailed with all in hydra builds on Blue Storm, Bisu should be expecting all in builds on this map a fair bit.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 24 2008 05:49 GMT
#637
On January 24 2008 14:38 HaXxorIzed wrote:
I think Hot Bid put it best. Bisu plays his games with an eye to dominating on his skill. The occasional Hydra break or loss of critical units (ie, the reavers + shuttle vs yellow[arnc]) or all in hydra plays (ie, Julyzerg yesterday) may win a few games, but it's rare he loses straight up.

That said, given only Jaedong has wins over him in straight up play and the fact he's been nailed with all in hydra builds on Blue Storm, Bisu should be expecting all in builds on this map a fair bit.


The sAviOr fan that is ShaLLoW would like to remind you of that game on Hitchhiker at Blizzcon/WWI which sAviOr won :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
January 24 2008 06:22 GMT
#638
On January 24 2008 14:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 14:38 HaXxorIzed wrote:
I think Hot Bid put it best. Bisu plays his games with an eye to dominating on his skill. The occasional Hydra break or loss of critical units (ie, the reavers + shuttle vs yellow[arnc]) or all in hydra plays (ie, Julyzerg yesterday) may win a few games, but it's rare he loses straight up.

That said, given only Jaedong has wins over him in straight up play and the fact he's been nailed with all in hydra builds on Blue Storm, Bisu should be expecting all in builds on this map a fair bit.


The sAviOr fan that is ShaLLoW would like to remind you of that game on Hitchhiker at Blizzcon/WWI which sAviOr won :p


Might want to add GGPlay in their as well .
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
January 24 2008 06:49 GMT
#639
On January 24 2008 09:12 JIJI wrote:
Just wondering, how popular is Jaedong in Korea? I mean everytime I see him win, he hardly gets any cheers or none at all. And even before a game starts the "Insert name fighting" thing, his is almost always softer than his opponents. So what's up with his popularity? Is he hated for dominating too much? If that's the case, Savior who dominated for a long time sure got more cheers in one game than all of Jaedong's games combined =o

people love him. And the insert name thing sometimes one side sounds louder than the other for no reason. When i watched mind vs bisu live mind's cheer was really loud but on the vods it didnt seem that loud. And jaedong has one title so far hes gaining popularity. People didnt go crazy for savior until like his 2nd msl title vs ra. But they do love him. My friend who doesnt even care for progaming loves him.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 24 2008 06:49 GMT
#640
Savior didn't beat him on Blue Storm with a straight up game, although GGplay did.
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