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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 12:17:58
March 03 2020 10:29 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Tuesday, Mar 03 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
ENG Afreeca Stream (Tastosis)


Matchups and Maps



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(P)Mini              (T)BarrackS
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(T)Rush              (Z)ZerO






Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +




Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [Mini vs Barracks] +
Poll: Recommend Mini vs Barracks?

If you have time (11)
 
48%

No (7)
 
30%

Yes (5)
 
22%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs Barracks?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [ZerO vs Rush] +
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Rush?

Yes (22)
 
92%

No (2)
 
8%

24 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Game] +
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

Yes (20)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Game] +
Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (33)
 
97%

If you have time (1)
 
3%

No (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Final Game] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Clutch as fuck (30)
 
65%

Yes (15)
 
33%

No (1)
 
2%

46 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Clutch as fuck





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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 10:29 GMT
#2
fixing atm give me a sec
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
March 03 2020 10:30 GMT
#3
Mini found an original way to lose PvT on this map
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
March 03 2020 10:30 GMT
#4
Well that was a big upset to start things off.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 10:32 GMT
#5
Poll: Recommend Mini vs Barracks?

If you have time (11)
 
48%

No (7)
 
30%

Yes (5)
 
22%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs Barracks?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
March 03 2020 10:34 GMT
#6
Mini , mini , mini what are you doing ?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51499 Posts
March 03 2020 10:54 GMT
#7
zero still the perpetual choker
Commentator
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
March 03 2020 10:55 GMT
#8
zero lmao
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 03 2020 10:55 GMT
#9
Boy, what a crazy game.
WriterReV hwaiting!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 10:55 GMT
#10
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Rush?

Yes (22)
 
92%

No (2)
 
8%

24 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1553 Posts
March 03 2020 10:55 GMT
#11
Haha, because of this sucking map, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24 :D
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
March 03 2020 10:56 GMT
#12
Wasn't expecting a TvT in the winners match.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 10:56 GMT
#13
On March 03 2020 19:55 ZZZero.O wrote:
Haha, because of this sucking map, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24 :D


terran is supposed to suck on this map and to be honest, zero had every right to lose after the way he played
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 03 2020 10:56 GMT
#14
I don't believe this. What a throw by zero.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
March 03 2020 10:56 GMT
#15
On March 03 2020 19:55 ZZZero.O wrote:
Haha, because of this sucking map, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24 :D

Because of Zero and Mini sucking hard, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24.
BW
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland736 Posts
March 03 2020 10:56 GMT
#16
On March 03 2020 19:55 ZZZero.O wrote:
Haha, because of this sucking map, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24 :D


Don't blame the map
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
March 03 2020 10:57 GMT
#17
God dam Zero threw that game hard.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 03 2020 10:57 GMT
#18
hahaha brilliant
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland736 Posts
March 03 2020 10:58 GMT
#19
Is the group draw after the games or is it handled in a different way because of coronavirus?
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 03 2020 10:58 GMT
#20
On March 03 2020 19:56 Amanebak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 19:55 ZZZero.O wrote:
Haha, because of this sucking map, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24 :D

Because of Zero and Mini sucking hard, we will have zero or mini eliminated from asl in ro24.

This
WriterReV hwaiting!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1553 Posts
March 03 2020 11:01 GMT
#21
Yea, Zero throw very badly, thats true too - but I can't stand this map somehow, its terrible :D
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 11:01 GMT
#22
that was an awesome, awesome game!

but ZerO actually threw it I think.. that overextension in the middle of the map.. ouch

damn shame that one of mini and ZerO will be out already., but oh well. Bo1 here for ya

GG
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
March 03 2020 11:03 GMT
#23
What is happening ?
Anyone thought that the winners match will be Barracks vs Rush ?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 11:07 GMT
#24
On March 03 2020 20:03 prosatan wrote:
What is happening ?
Anyone thought that the winners match will be Barracks vs Rush ?

nope..

the day of upsets i guess..

that and also both mini and ZerO played kinda bad
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4028 Posts
March 03 2020 11:10 GMT
#25
the first game by Mini was questionable to say the least.
Drone is a way of living
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
March 03 2020 11:22 GMT
#26
This game is getting crazy.
Artosis loves Starcraft
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 03 2020 11:24 GMT
#27
It look like a terrible idea to drop there but rush had just unseige all his tanks.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 11:25 GMT
#28
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

Yes (20)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:25 GMT
#29
barracks royal roader?

fucking amazing and entertaining performance
POGGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 11:25 GMT
#30
uhh yeah

brarracks showed us good games and won
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 03 2020 11:26 GMT
#31
Barracks out in first place. Thought he had the same chance of getting out as random henchman "C" taking out John Wick.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 11:26 GMT
#32
sick, sick game!

damn that was great play by BarrackS today

super unexpected, GGs!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 03 2020 11:26 GMT
#33
What a great TvT that was, gj by barracks. Really much more composed than I expected.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
March 03 2020 11:30 GMT
#34
Is Barracks an amateur or old school player?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 11:31:59
March 03 2020 11:31 GMT
#35
On March 03 2020 20:30 Dante08 wrote:
Is Barracks an amateur or old school player?

old school player

(Wiki)BarrackS
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Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland736 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 11:31:39
March 03 2020 11:31 GMT
#36
On March 03 2020 20:30 Dante08 wrote:
Is Barracks an amateur or old school player?


KT Rolster pro.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:33 GMT
#37
On March 03 2020 20:30 Dante08 wrote:
Is Barracks an amateur or old school player?

old school player, but was up and coming in the last few years of pro BW in KT. he always had solid mechanics and had impressed me from time to time, but finally he's back in ASL!
POGGERS
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
March 03 2020 11:39 GMT
#38
is this my ladder games
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:42 GMT
#39
i have no idea how zero is still in this game

amazing
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:43 GMT
#40
that 9 oclock expo is paying so much dividends
POGGERS
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4960 Posts
March 03 2020 11:43 GMT
#41
Trying to go for the kill might have cost Mini the game.
Taxes are for Terrans
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 11:45 GMT
#42
AAAAAaaaaa

how could have that dive gone worse for mini?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 11:45:25
March 03 2020 11:45 GMT
#43
holy shit this might be the throw of the decade. . .

why wouldnt he just kill that hatch that was out of range of the sunken.. wtf
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:45 GMT
#44
sees the expo so late LOL
POGGERS
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 03 2020 11:46 GMT
#45
how did he turn around to go save the buildings at the ramp when it was 1 sunken and 8 eggs vs 11 zealots
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 11:46 GMT
#46
I don't think I've ever seen so few lings hold against so many zealots.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:47 GMT
#47
DT over HT, for real? LOL
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:48 GMT
#48
amazing hold by zero but even more amazing throw by mini LOL
POGGERS
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 11:48 GMT
#49
WOOOOOOOOW xDDD

what a throw my LORD that was awful wow..

wow..
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 11:49:46
March 03 2020 11:49 GMT
#50
Really nice games.

Sad to see mini depart. But what a come back from zero.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 03 2020 11:50 GMT
#51
Questionable decisions and execution from mini today.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 11:51 GMT
#52
Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (33)
 
97%

If you have time (1)
 
3%

No (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 11:53:07
March 03 2020 11:51 GMT
#53
^ i voted "yes" because people absolutely must see the biggest throw of this decade. That was so awful, that it was actually funny.

will the ro16 ceremony be today btw? I thought it always was after the last group, right?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 11:52 GMT
#54
On March 03 2020 20:51 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
will the ro16 ceremony be today btw? I thought it always was after the last group, right?


probably not, they don't want more people in the studio than they need to have at the moment.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
March 03 2020 11:53 GMT
#55
I voted yes because those kinds of throws and twists and turns in games are very entertaining in general
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:53 GMT
#56
they might do it online but who knows
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 11:53 GMT
#57
On March 03 2020 20:53 Arvendilin wrote:
I voted yes because those kinds of throws and twists and turns in games are very entertaining in general

heck yes!
POGGERS
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 11:54 GMT
#58
On March 03 2020 20:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 20:51 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
will the ro16 ceremony be today btw? I thought it always was after the last group, right?


probably not, they don't want more people in the studio than they need to have at the moment.

but they will have to do it sooner or later, no? and it doesnt look like coronavirus going to go out anytime soon there..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 11:59 GMT
#59
On March 03 2020 20:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 20:51 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
will the ro16 ceremony be today btw? I thought it always was after the last group, right?


probably not, they don't want more people in the studio than they need to have at the moment.


is it though? having 16 people you can confer/check with beforehand is different to a studio audience of randoms. And 16 people isn't a huge increase over the studio crew anyway.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 12:02 GMT
#60
eh, anyway normally the final group of the Ro24 starts 2 hours earlier, the fact that it didn't means they might not do group selection and probably just have a random group draw.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:02 GMT
#61
zero is sloppy today, poor muta micro and overall macro decisions
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:06 GMT
#62
RUSH RUSHING INTO 8 LURKERS
POGGERS
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
March 03 2020 12:06 GMT
#63
Not sure why Rush thought that would work.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 12:08 GMT
#64
Why did rush do that? He knew how many lurkers were there.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:08 GMT
#65
defilers are out
POGGERS
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
March 03 2020 12:11 GMT
#66
That Mini throw... He deserved to die after making such a huge mistake.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:11 GMT
#67
WTF 4 armor ultras already up
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:13 GMT
#68
3 gas zerg winning 4 gas terran lul
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:15 GMT
#69
zero forcing rush to play defensively with excellent aggressive defiler usage
POGGERS
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
March 03 2020 12:15 GMT
#70
this game is entertaining but awful play on both sides, jeez
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
March 03 2020 12:15 GMT
#71
Is this a bigger throw than Mini?
Artosis loves Starcraft
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:16 GMT
#72
rush lost every barracks wtf LOL
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:16 GMT
#73
this throw is officially bigger than mini's LMAO wtf is today's game
POGGERS
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 03 2020 12:16 GMT
#74
marines (vs. dark swarm) and overproduced vessels are a losing proposition on the apm resource
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:17 GMT
#75
1 base terran now lmao
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:17 GMT
#76
holy shit this has got to be the biggest throw in recent history, and i'm talking about like last 5 years
POGGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 12:17 GMT
#77
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Clutch as fuck (30)
 
65%

Yes (15)
 
33%

No (1)
 
2%

46 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Clutch as fuck

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#78
what
WHAT
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#79
THE DAY OF THROWS

That was an absolutely hilarious game.. what the heck man.. xD

GG!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#80
On March 03 2020 21:17 konadora wrote:
holy shit this has got to be the biggest throw in recent history, and i'm talking about like last 5 years


nah dog, Zero hit him with the EE Han timing
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2971 Posts
March 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#81
Jeebus that was a disgusting throw. You deserved that loss Rush.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#82
really entertaining game. Kind of hard to watch Rush let go of a great position like that but Zero really deserved to win with how well he was playing.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#83
That was definitely a bigger throw than Mini's. He had zero on 3 bases, he was in a dream position but he didn't take that push on his natural/main seriously? What a comeback from zero.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5664 Posts
March 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#84
INSAAANE! :O
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
March 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#85
You know I said the other games were good? I was wrong! Amazing game. Unbelievable stuff. Why does anyone watch anything that isn't Broodwar?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#86
ZerO should buy mini and Rush a case of beer or something.. that was just incredible how did they both manage to throw huge advantage like that..

very nice games today nonetheless
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#87
remember folks even if you throw, someone has to catch that, we've all seen games where both players throw.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:20 GMT
#88
today's games were a mudfight slugfest and i fucking loved it
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 03 2020 12:20 GMT
#89
Zero is sooooo good hahahha!
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland736 Posts
March 03 2020 12:20 GMT
#90
can someone give confirmation if the group draw for ro16 is now?
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:21 GMT
#91
LMAO zero is like "i think there are plenty of people who can knock soulkey down so i don't think i have to face him, if i had to choose then i'd want to face Barracks"
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2020 12:21 GMT
#92
Fantastic games tonight in terms of enjoyment. Looking forward to to ro16
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 03 2020 12:22 GMT
#93
Don't take Zero's win away from him, Rush threw but Zero did really well to counter with such a strong timing.
WriterReV hwaiting!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 12:23 GMT
#94
10th March, 1900 KST (GMT + 9)
Ro16 group selection
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 12:25 GMT
#95
On March 03 2020 21:23 konadora wrote:
10th March, 1900 KST (GMT + 9)
Ro16 group selection


cool
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
March 03 2020 12:25 GMT
#96
Really fun games indeed today guys.... Queen really the throw man... Throwing the game he's well ahead and winning the games he was supposed to lose.... Really awesome last game though, action all over the place.
its me
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
March 03 2020 12:25 GMT
#97
Zero did real good to come back in that game. I still think it was a massive throw though. Needed to take the push towards his nat a lot more seriously.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 03 2020 12:26 GMT
#98
God bless Artosis and Tasteless. Their passion is truly unrivaled. I really look up to these two. They've been doing this for so long and won't ever stop...LONG LIVE BW!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
March 03 2020 12:27 GMT
#99
I haven't been this entertained in a while, I'm glad zero tried to keep at least one my predictions alive.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
March 03 2020 12:29 GMT
#100
Entertaining games! I'm happy I wasn't rooting for anyone in this group.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 12:30:32
March 03 2020 12:30 GMT
#101
On March 03 2020 21:23 konadora wrote:
10th March, 1900 KST (GMT + 9)
Ro16 group selection

that is soooooo far off! oh man.. come on, the group selection should have been like on the 6th or something..

another ASL drought incoming, me no likey
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 12:31:57
March 03 2020 12:30 GMT
#102
I'm confused, is the group selection next tuesday, and then the ro16 starts the sunday after that?
edit: nevermind, was already answered. thanks
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 03 2020 12:31 GMT
#103
On March 03 2020 21:30 Wonk wrote:
I'm confused, is the group selection next tuesday, and then the ro16 starts the sunday after that?

looks like it.. -,- so the ro16 probably starting on 17th or something.. sooo far off.

damn shame, but what can you do..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland197 Posts
March 03 2020 12:36 GMT
#104
Zero vs Rush was good watch, but Zero vs Mini was best imo
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
March 03 2020 12:39 GMT
#105
Sad to see Mini out so early but at least we get the most even distribution of races possible for ro16
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 03 2020 12:47 GMT
#106
BW is really hard remember? It's one thing to sit and watch the game, with full vision from both sides and without having to control an army, to build and produce that same army and manage an economy; all at the same time.

There are almost no such things as "perfect" games in BW. Yet we love it. Saying that someone is "throwing" a game, makes it seem like the game itself was cheap. It also takes away the accomplishments from the opponent who manageded to exploit the mistake.

royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 13:12:45
March 03 2020 13:11 GMT
#107
Rise of the stormtrooper terran.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Ayjayzee
Profile Joined September 2018
9 Posts
March 03 2020 14:20 GMT
#108
I'm not sorry to see Mini go. He's just so inconsistent and his decision making is simply the worst. He's simply got to work on the many glaring issues in his play or he'll forever underwhelm.
appcer999
Profile Joined March 2020
4 Posts
March 03 2020 14:28 GMT
#109
Queen, I'm a fan now.
I would have smash f10 eq when that zealot tribal were camping in front of my doorsteps ...
Well played man well played
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 15:35:30
March 03 2020 15:31 GMT
#110
Holy shit that last game was one of the best TvZs I have seen recently. Zero really pulled some magic to come back from that one and Rush played his mind out. Epic!!!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
March 03 2020 15:39 GMT
#111
How exactly did Rush throw that game again? He was focused on stopping Zero getting a 4th and was light on units in his natural, Zero took a gamble to attack the natural and it paid off. Rush played really well that game and would have beat Zero on another day.
AF0x
Profile Joined June 2018
United States59 Posts
March 03 2020 15:46 GMT
#112
Really entertaining games overall this group, especially Zero's two matches, really impressive play!
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 03 2020 15:48 GMT
#113
imho staying on marine + mass vessel is a mistake, irradiate is not efficient in terms of apm and marines are more situational given dark swarm... i'm thinking bc or firebat/mech are better compositions
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
293 Posts
March 03 2020 15:56 GMT
#114
Just watched the VODs, absolutely fabulous games this group tbh
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 03 2020 16:07 GMT
#115
It's not a mistake, its a choice. You cannot always safely mech transition. You wouldn't be making firebats with your mech anyways. Science vessels are the tool that can counter every threat to your MM. It could had gone either way really.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 03 2020 16:07 GMT
#116
On March 04 2020 00:48 mishimaBeef wrote:
imho staying on marine + mass vessel is a mistake, irradiate is not efficient in terms of apm and marines are more situational given dark swarm... i'm thinking bc or firebat/mech are better compositions

IDK if Rush could ever afford to try and switch into mech or add BCs after losing a sizable chunk of mnm in a blunder versus a bunch of lurks and mutas in the middle. He lost the game through inefficient control of the map, something his somewhat more mobile mnm/vessel force was designed to do. I feel those vessels did less work than they could have. He had a lot.
WriterReV hwaiting!
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 03 2020 16:25 GMT
#117
yes in theory vessels can do a lot of work but i think in practice the apm cost is not worth investing in so many

you need to both track the energy of the vessels (or "miss" trying to cast from one with insufficient energy), carefully click on the vessel to use, and then carefully click on the irradiate target, meanwhile zerg probably doesn't care as its pumping out units, a dark swarm on the other hand doesn't need such pin-point accuracy when using defilers

and while you're still on marines, you are basically breaking even on the apm of retreating from dark swarm while taking losses
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 03 2020 16:31 GMT
#118
when i looked at soulkey v mong on escalade and how he came back against an established high tank count with overlords, lings and ultras mostly it makes me think you need firebats, adrenal glands is too efficient
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 03 2020 16:45 GMT
#119
On March 04 2020 01:31 mishimaBeef wrote:
when i looked at soulkey v mong on escalade and how he came back against an established high tank count with overlords, lings and ultras mostly it makes me think you need firebats, adrenal glands is too efficient

yeah it boggles my mind how terrans still refuse to add a bat or two early game, and start mixing firebats into the mix for mid game bionic army before the inevitable full mech switch..
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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
March 03 2020 19:33 GMT
#120
People trashing ZerO in the match thread. Here you fucking go. This is ZerO. No fourth, only 3 gas, but when his opponent throws, he gets it done.

Memes aside, so hyped for my guy making moves in the ASL again. Always entertaining games with ZerO, really resilient play in these games.
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 19:53:40
March 03 2020 19:50 GMT
#121
On March 04 2020 01:45 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2020 01:31 mishimaBeef wrote:
when i looked at soulkey v mong on escalade and how he came back against an established high tank count with overlords, lings and ultras mostly it makes me think you need firebats, adrenal glands is too efficient

yeah it boggles my mind how terrans still refuse to add a bat or two early game, and start mixing firebats into the mix for mid game bionic army before the inevitable full mech switch..

But they do, at least for 2 rax pushes into 2 hatch mutas and the like.

Anyways I rewatched the match and Rush was never ahead. He ran into a bunch of lurkers not realising there was more to the north and ran his top marines for a surround straight into lurker splash. Rush lost his science vessel timing due to that and completely lost momentum that's supposed to occur. It isn't that having so many science vessels isn't worth it, but that he couldn't get the opportunity to use them to its fullest potential due to lack of map control. The large amounts of science vessels can obtain critical mass, but it's crucial to obtain map control so you can irradiate defilers/ultras/lurkers units early and have plenty of space to retreat to against dark swarms. It's really impressive rewatching how Zero completely outmanoeuvres Rush at every moment afterwards. Several times he managed to move a defiler + small amounts of units past Rush's units and into his bases. It's already too late when the dark swarms are in your base and that's what happened here.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 03 2020 21:05 GMT
#122
Oh man, awesome games! Casters killed it too. Great time, love BW
KTY
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 03 2020 21:51 GMT
#123
On March 03 2020 20:45 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
holy shit this might be the throw of the decade. . .

why wouldnt he just kill that hatch that was out of range of the sunken.. wtf


Anyone know the answer to this? Seems like sniping that hatch would've been really easy
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
March 03 2020 23:07 GMT
#124
Just a small nitpick but are they pronouncing inner coven wrong (pronounced cUHven)?
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#125
On March 04 2020 06:51 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 20:45 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
holy shit this might be the throw of the decade. . .

why wouldnt he just kill that hatch that was out of range of the sunken.. wtf


Anyone know the answer to this? Seems like sniping that hatch would've been really easy
Smelt blood I guess. Feels like protecting the cannons would have been best. So much anticipation to them finally going up, then he immediately abandons them and they are overrun with lings. Wasted. Then he could have scouted the map to check for a sneaky hatch and taken it out while holding the ramp.
KTY
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
March 04 2020 00:55 GMT
#126
Man this group was so fun to watch! Amazing effort by all players (except mini )!
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
March 04 2020 01:44 GMT
#127
Not at all surprising to see Mini lose like this.

Really enjoyable games, though! So amazing to have ASL to watch, truly a pleasure, even the groups people were calling boring / bad games have been wonderful.
The original Bogus fan.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
March 04 2020 02:03 GMT
#128
Wonderful games!!! Must watch great group
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
March 04 2020 02:26 GMT
#129
Am I the only one who watched this and felt like everyone but Barracks just played terribly. Slugfests are nice, but this looked more like people punching themselves rather than their opponents.
Fuck KeSPA.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8143 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-04 02:43:14
March 04 2020 02:42 GMT
#130
Really fun games, really great to see how stoked barracks was to advance haha. Damn when rush sniped that defiler den I thought zero was toast, but then he REALLY made good use of his remaining defilers damn. So fucking hard to play vs T with only 3 gas. Too bad to see mini slumping pretty hard since getting 2 silvers last year, but his play just doesn't seem as good as it should be from him. Really hope he comes back better next season.
Free Palestine
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1092 Posts
March 04 2020 03:31 GMT
#131
We never know which Mini is going to show up, especially on stage. After the first few minutes on his first match, it was easy to understand which one came to play, unfortunately.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 04 2020 04:30 GMT
#132
On March 04 2020 08:07 kidcrash wrote:
Just a small nitpick but are they pronouncing inner coven wrong (pronounced cUHven)?

korean pronunciation (unless you're watching the english stream)
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 04 2020 04:31 GMT
#133
On March 04 2020 11:26 oshibori_probe wrote:
Am I the only one who watched this and felt like everyone but Barracks just played terribly. Slugfests are nice, but this looked more like people punching themselves rather than their opponents.

but that's hella entertaining regardless LOL
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kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
March 04 2020 04:47 GMT
#134
On March 04 2020 13:30 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2020 08:07 kidcrash wrote:
Just a small nitpick but are they pronouncing inner coven wrong (pronounced cUHven)?

korean pronunciation (unless you're watching the english stream)

Yes im watching tasteless and artosis pronounce it that way.
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
March 04 2020 04:52 GMT
#135
Coven is pronounced like Oven, not like Cove.
There is but one truth.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 04 2020 13:32 GMT
#136
All games were great, this is the best group by far. BarrackS played surprisingly well, so I wonder if he's that good (after 11 years of training) or he got lucky. Next round will tell.

Mini played horribly, he needs to work on his weak mentality, because he's performing so good or so bad.

Sad to see Rush is gone, guy trained super hard. I always think that Rush is slowly but surely becoming stronger and more solid each season. He really needed to take that TvT because facing ZerO twice isn't an easy feat. I wouldn't say he threw the game, his early and mid game was brilliant but his mutltitask started falling apart late game.
sunbeams are never made like me...
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
March 04 2020 18:42 GMT
#137
Wow game 5 was easily the best game of the ASL so far ! Well played by both
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